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July 17, 2013, 01:22:01 AM
#32
Maybe Google, say, cinematography app, and take a look at the results.

Or perhaps, take any specific discipline or field, where we will denote the specific field as X, and do two Google searches, such as:

X app iphone
X app android

Compare the number of search results. Now, factor in the fact that iPhone apps must be approved for quality, and Android apps can be incomplete buggy pieces of shit.
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July 17, 2013, 01:06:06 AM
#31
Can you name an app that's useful that doesn't have a counterpart in Android that functions just as well if not better?  I'm honestly curious if there is one.. what killer iPhone app exists that doesn't exist in Android?

I can name one in Android... as I said above, it's a keyboard.  Simple, obvious, yet Apple doesn't allow it. 

Lets not even discuss the disgraceful charging/USB situation on IOS. 
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July 17, 2013, 12:38:43 AM
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i own a cellphone repair shop in atlanta also buy and sell phones,tablets,laptops etc so i come across alot of iphones, ive tried the apple iphone 3g then went back to android because i didnt see what the big buzz was about i tried the 4 then again went back to android ive tried the 4s then again you get the idea lol ive tried to be as open minded and unbiased as i can be but i just cant see what the big deal is with ios i always try it out for a week or two then go back to android

Fine but do you have any professional interests where you need apps other than games and address book apps?

uh i run a business with 5 employees of course i do i use kingsoft office, astrid tasks and everynote and i use sigfig to manage my investments to name a few on a daily basis now i know theres more then likely ios apps for everything that i do on my android device but the mind wants what it wants i prefer android not knocking apple i just prefer android its a personal preference

You're only reinforcing my point. You've only named very generic general purpose apps. When you start delving into very specific niche disciplines, you'll find a very limited assortment of quality apps on Android vs Apple.
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July 17, 2013, 12:19:34 AM
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IOS is the Fisher Price OS for the "My First Smartphone" crowd.  It's great for your mom or dad or grandparents and excellent for kids.  Android is for people who want to use their phone as more than a toy.

That said, the camera on the iPhone is superior by leaps and bounds to any Android phone, so if pictures with your phone are important to you, go with the iPhone.

There's lot of differences between Android phones, though... One phone is not like another and some suck really bad and others are full of awesome, so you have to be careful which you chose.

Nexus 4 for a techy wired brain or a Samsung Galaxy S4 for a non-techy "I kinda want an iPhone but don't want the full Fisher Price experience" wired brain.

Once again I disagree. a Jailbroken iPhone can be as versatile as any Android. That being said, we are talking about a Phone!!! What can you do with Android that you can't do with iOS and we are talking productivity wise.
I want to make phone calls, I want to check email, I want to share my mobile data plan with other devices...etc.
The biggest advantage iOS has over Android is the ecosystem. First of all, Android does not have a decent Laptop (ChromeOS is a joke and that's it), with iOS you have full integration with OSX so you have a great ecosystem (MacBook, iMac, iPad, iPhone) and they all share great features together, like iCloud, PhotoStream, iTunes.
Backing up an iPhone and restoring all the contacts/Photos/calendars/setting is a breeze on the iPhone. Can you say the same thing about Android? doubtful.
Taking a picture on the iPhone automatically uploads it on photostream to all your iOS/OSX devices. Can you do that with Android NATIVELY? NO!
As a mobile OS, iOS is leap years more advanced and productivity wise what you do with iOS would take three times more to do with Android.
Even Windows is creating a better ecosystem with Windows 8(.1) and the tablets/phones available for it.
I dont need a phone that I can do  my programming on it, that's what laptops/pc are for. I need a phone that is FAST, allows me to do the basics such as email/photos/tethering and maybe a few other basic things. Yes, every now and then I can RDP to a windows client or ssh to a linux/unix from my phone, is that convenient? sure, in an emergency, but I have to be crazy to do it on a daily basis.
I don't even want to get into the business model from one vs the other because Android clearly loses that battle also. Google play is shit compared to iTunes/App Store.
Want to talk fragmentation? check the versions of Android out there compared to iOS... it's a developer's nightmare for android.
Sure, this argument reminds me of Linux vs Windows back in the early 90's with the difference that Windows has always had an overwhelming advantage in market share over Linux and in Android vs iOS this isn't the case.
BTW Inaba, I'm an IT Professional and I work for a Fortune 50 company, not a bunch of borderline scammers with bad project management skills and even worst PR skills.
Maybe the use of android is making you less productive? Get an iPhone, you might be able to work more efficiently. Many customers would appreciate it!


Your entire argument is invalided with one simple argument: You can't change the keyboard on IOS and the Apple stock keyboard is the biggest piece of shit ever.  You can't be productive with that piece of shit getting in your way constantly.

BTW - don't hold up iTunes as some advantage of the Apple ecosystem.  It's one of it's biggest downfalls.  iTunes is a steaming pile of junk on Windows (you know, 90% of the market?) and wrecks everything it touches.  I've never met a single person that likes iTunes on the Windows platform and everyone complains about it.  The fact that you're forced to use iTunes to manage your IOS device is a negative, not a positive.  On top of that, the Google ecosystem is far, far more robust and interconnected than the Apple walled garden.  How's that viewing and downloading of PDFs working out for you in mail?  heh.  Also, how's the association of various file types with certain apps working out?  Oh, it's not?  Sorry to hear that, I guess you're stuck with the junk Apple forces you to use, instead of using an app that actually works for the content you want to work with.  Enjoy your home screen with it's shaky, jittery little ugly icons.  Too bad you can't customize it and you're forced to have a grid of crappy looking icons as opposed to useful widgets.

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July 16, 2013, 10:20:32 PM
#28
IOS is the Fisher Price OS for the "My First Smartphone" crowd.  It's great for your mom or dad or grandparents and excellent for kids.  Android is for people who want to use their phone as more than a toy.

That said, the camera on the iPhone is superior by leaps and bounds to any Android phone, so if pictures with your phone are important to you, go with the iPhone.

There's lot of differences between Android phones, though... One phone is not like another and some suck really bad and others are full of awesome, so you have to be careful which you chose.

Nexus 4 for a techy wired brain or a Samsung Galaxy S4 for a non-techy "I kinda want an iPhone but don't want the full Fisher Price experience" wired brain.

Once again I disagree. a Jailbroken iPhone can be as versatile as any Android. That being said, we are talking about a Phone!!! What can you do with Android that you can't do with iOS and we are talking productivity wise.
I want to make phone calls, I want to check email, I want to share my mobile data plan with other devices...etc.
The biggest advantage iOS has over Android is the ecosystem. First of all, Android does not have a decent Laptop (ChromeOS is a joke and that's it), with iOS you have full integration with OSX so you have a great ecosystem (MacBook, iMac, iPad, iPhone) and they all share great features together, like iCloud, PhotoStream, iTunes.
Backing up an iPhone and restoring all the contacts/Photos/calendars/setting is a breeze on the iPhone. Can you say the same thing about Android? doubtful.
Taking a picture on the iPhone automatically uploads it on photostream to all your iOS/OSX devices. Can you do that with Android NATIVELY? NO!
As a mobile OS, iOS is leap years more advanced and productivity wise what you do with iOS would take three times more to do with Android.
Even Windows is creating a better ecosystem with Windows 8(.1) and the tablets/phones available for it.
I dont need a phone that I can do  my programming on it, that's what laptops/pc are for. I need a phone that is FAST, allows me to do the basics such as email/photos/tethering and maybe a few other basic things. Yes, every now and then I can RDP to a windows client or ssh to a linux/unix from my phone, is that convenient? sure, in an emergency, but I have to be crazy to do it on a daily basis.
I don't even want to get into the business model from one vs the other because Android clearly loses that battle also. Google play is shit compared to iTunes/App Store.
Want to talk fragmentation? check the versions of Android out there compared to iOS... it's a developer's nightmare for android.
Sure, this argument reminds me of Linux vs Windows back in the early 90's with the difference that Windows has always had an overwhelming advantage in market share over Linux and in Android vs iOS this isn't the case.
BTW Inaba, I'm an IT Professional and I work for a Fortune 50 company, not a bunch of borderline scammers with bad project management skills and even worst PR skills.
Maybe the use of android is making you less productive? Get an iPhone, you might be able to work more efficiently. Many customers would appreciate it!
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July 16, 2013, 11:58:06 PM
#28
i own a cellphone repair shop in atlanta also buy and sell phones,tablets,laptops etc so i come across alot of iphones, ive tried the apple iphone 3g then went back to android because i didnt see what the big buzz was about i tried the 4 then again went back to android ive tried the 4s then again you get the idea lol ive tried to be as open minded and unbiased as i can be but i just cant see what the big deal is with ios i always try it out for a week or two then go back to android

Fine but do you have any professional interests where you need apps other than games and address book apps?

uh i run a business with 5 employees of course i do i use kingsoft office, astrid tasks and everynote and i use sigfig to manage my investments to name a few on a daily basis now i know theres more then likely ios apps for everything that i do on my android device but the mind wants what it wants i prefer android not knocking apple i just prefer android its a personal preference
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July 16, 2013, 11:11:41 PM
#27
IOS is the Fisher Price OS for the "My First Smartphone" crowd.  It's great for your mom or dad or grandparents and excellent for kids.  Android is for people who want to use their phone as more than a toy.

That said, the camera on the iPhone is superior by leaps and bounds to any Android phone, so if pictures with your phone are important to you, go with the iPhone.

There's lot of differences between Android phones, though... One phone is not like another and some suck really bad and others are full of awesome, so you have to be careful which you chose.

Nexus 4 for a techy wired brain or a Samsung Galaxy S4 for a non-techy "I kinda want an iPhone but don't want the full Fisher Price experience" wired brain.


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July 16, 2013, 11:05:41 PM
#26
i own a cellphone repair shop in atlanta also buy and sell phones,tablets,laptops etc so i come across alot of iphones, ive tried the apple iphone 3g then went back to android because i didnt see what the big buzz was about i tried the 4 then again went back to android ive tried the 4s then again you get the idea lol ive tried to be as open minded and unbiased as i can be but i just cant see what the big deal is with ios i always try it out for a week or two then go back to android

Fine but do you have any professional interests where you need apps other than games and address book apps?
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July 16, 2013, 06:35:45 PM
#25
IOS is the Fisher Price OS for the "My First Smartphone" crowd.  It's great for your mom or dad or grandparents and excellent for kids.  Android is for people who want to use their phone as more than a toy.

That said, the camera on the iPhone is superior by leaps and bounds to any Android phone, so if pictures with your phone are important to you, go with the iPhone.

There's lot of differences between Android phones, though... One phone is not like another and some suck really bad and others are full of awesome, so you have to be careful which you chose.

Nexus 4 for a techy wired brain or a Samsung Galaxy S4 for a non-techy "I kinda want an iPhone but don't want the full Fisher Price experience" wired brain.



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July 16, 2013, 06:29:28 PM
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i own a cellphone repair shop in atlanta also buy and sell phones,tablets,laptops etc so i come across alot of iphones, ive tried the apple iphone 3g then went back to android because i didnt see what the big buzz was about i tried the 4 then again went back to android ive tried the 4s then again you get the idea lol ive tried to be as open minded and unbiased as i can be but i just cant see what the big deal is with ios i always try it out for a week or two then go back to android
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July 16, 2013, 02:41:03 PM
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The iPhone is for people who aren't into computers for computer's sake, but are into computers for productivity. The Android is for people who are into computers for the sake of experimenting with computers...

Agreed.
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July 16, 2013, 02:36:41 PM
#22
Android is a bunch of slow java shit with complicated user interface. Oh, and it reboots for no reason every now and then. I'm not a fan of iPhone either but of these two, iPhone all the way.

Have you had much experience with newer Android phones? Since they updated to 4.2 the UI is super smooth
yes. Ics improved UI performance. Still, the fastest android UI on the latest hardware cannot be as pleasant as the iOS experience. Here's why:

Android system doesn't have as strict control over the behaviour of core features such as (the many different)  launchers and multitasking. A badly designed app has never been able to crash of freeze the iOS system and it's GUI on my (now sold) iPhone or iPad. On my current android phone, there has never been a case where an application freeze wouldn't cause a system crash or system freeze for prolonged period.
tl:dr android system fails to control badly behaving apps.

This has to do with the above, but android phones also have generally worse batterylife. Where iOS aggressively kills background apps, android allows them to run.

And my most hated thing about it is the lack of simplity. iOS has the highest user satisfaction because it's so simple. Android used to be simplier, but lately it has become a total mess.
I so disagree with that. I have the exact opposite experience.
Big apps are killed on Android but made my iPhone unusable even after manually killing them. My i5's battery literally died 6months after first use (went from 21h to 2h). I never understood how Apple put all the settings... Half in the app, half in the settings, half in settings>app.

I had an iPhone 5 and now a Nexus 4. I'd never come back.
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July 16, 2013, 12:43:09 PM
#21
Android is a bunch of slow java shit with complicated user interface. Oh, and it reboots for no reason every now and then. I'm not a fan of iPhone either but of these two, iPhone all the way.

Have you had much experience with newer Android phones? Since they updated to 4.2 the UI is super smooth
yes. Ics improved UI performance. Still, the fastest android UI on the latest hardware cannot be as pleasant as the iOS experience. Here's why:

Android system doesn't have as strict control over the behaviour of core features such as (the many different)  launchers and multitasking. A badly designed app has never been able to crash of freeze the iOS system and it's GUI on my (now sold) iPhone or iPad. On my current android phone, there has never been a case where an application freeze wouldn't cause a system crash or system freeze for prolonged period.
tl:dr android system fails to control badly behaving apps.

This has to do with the above, but android phones also have generally worse batterylife. Where iOS aggressively kills background apps, android allows them to run.

Android is a general OS, where iOS is specifically designed and optimized for it's hardware.

Android is java.

And my most hated thing about it is the lack of simplity. iOS has the highest user satisfaction because it's so simple. Android used to be simplier, but lately it has become a total mess.
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July 16, 2013, 10:23:13 AM
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3) Not everyone can or is willing to pay a premium for a quality phone and by quality phone I mean an iPhone.

Quality? http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57592439-37/cheap-iphone-shown-off-in-colorful-mock-ups/

Maybe it was once, but Apple are only after the money!

Yes, I'm aware of that. I'm talking about the iPhone 5. What you're showing is Apple's idea to go after the cheapos and the 3rd world countries that are dominated by Android or BB.
And even that cheap iPhone might be a better quality iPhone than many Android phones!
Ohh, and to contest your statement: "Apple are only after the money!" So by that I think you mean that Samsung and all Android phone makers are NOT after the money and they are all non-profits now? LOL
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July 16, 2013, 10:41:31 AM
#20
Android. Now that Steve jobs is gone, apple is going. Android is the way to go.
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July 16, 2013, 10:32:58 AM
#19
Iphone = device

Android = operating system

If you are indeed choosing between 2 devices, at least name them. There are 80$ android tablets and 1000$ android tablets.
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July 16, 2013, 09:56:18 AM
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1Q 2013 market share

Android 75%
iOS 13.1%

http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24108913

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There are a few reasons Android wins the Mobile OS war.
1) There are 1000 android devices made by multiple companies vs 1 device made by one company.
2) You go to AT&T, T-MObile, Verizon, etc and they just throw an Android at you. They do 2x1, .99 cent for a SIII (on promo weekends) etc, etc. To buy an iPhone, you have to pay the price (period).
3) Not everyone can or is willing to pay a premium for a quality phone and by quality phone I mean an iPhone.

Android devices such as the flagship device nowadays S4, feel like they put a bunch of stuff there to make it as fast as they can, with as many chips as they can (latest processors, NFC chips, etc) all without having the software, or at least the quality software to support those technologies meaning if they need a quad core processor for Android to work decently, then it's because Android is slow as fuck and the use of Java doesn't help to that end. Also, NFC does not have the infrastructure and it's not "easy" for everyone to use yet.
Apple on the other hand, develop technologies that are part of an ecosystem and that are supported by a big infrastructure, so they won't release something just to be the first ones, but they will release someone once they've partnered with the right vendors/key players to make it successful. Also, iOS doesn't need a quad-core mobile chip to be faster than Android.
I agree with a statement made by a user here, Android users can be categorized in two branches: The ones that dont have money to buy an iPhone or don't want to pay for an iPhone and the ones that are into computer just for the sake of it and they want to play with installing  a lot of crap in them.
Apple users are either people that are fans from the company's product and buy anything Apple, business people that need apps that work, and a phone that allows them to be productive right away or computer professionals  that are not into mobile computing and just use the phone because they know quality (both in software and hardware)

I'm an IT engineer for a Fortune 50 company and while this is my opinion only, I stand by it after owning 3 iPhones and 2 Android devices. Currently I own an iPhone 5 jailbroken.

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July 16, 2013, 10:06:03 AM
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3) Not everyone can or is willing to pay a premium for a quality phone and by quality phone I mean an iPhone.

Quality? http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57592439-37/cheap-iphone-shown-off-in-colorful-mock-ups/

Maybe it was once, but Apple are only after the money!
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July 16, 2013, 09:26:27 AM
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1Q 2013 market share

Android 75%
iOS 13.1%

http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24108913

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July 16, 2013, 09:23:29 AM
#16
The most important thing for me is not the brand, but whether it is jailbroken or not. Until you unlock your phone you don't really own it.

What I don't understand is why cell phone companies feel an absolute desire to completely or partially control what it is you do with the device you paid good money for.  There seems to be no phones coming out today which are completely open, especially considering Android which has no vanilla, but some tricked-up bloatware-infested version of it on whatever brand it's being sold by.  I was eyeballing the Nexus recently, which supposedly is supposed to run the purest form of Android of all smartphones, but not even it is safe from Google branding, and there's certain Google-influenced features you simply cannot get rid of (without rooting, I suppose.)

One would figure there would be a market for this kind of thing, but I can't seem to find these fabled smartphones with clean OSes out of the box.
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