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Quote from: Alik Bahshi on October 14, 2022, 04:04:37 AM

Biden agreed to the supply of longer-range missiles to Ukraine in response to Russian shelling of Ukraine from Russian territory. These missiles can reach Sevastopol and the Crimean bridge.

Russia is moving armament into Belarus right now. There won't be any Ukraine left for the US to send missiles to, by the time Biden finally gets around to it.

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Biden agreed to the supply of longer-range missiles to Ukraine in response to Russian shelling of Ukraine from Russian territory. These missiles can reach Sevastopol and the Crimean bridge.

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In connection with the shelling of Crimea by Ukrainians, which will become more intense with the receipt of long-range missiles from the West, the population is leaving Crimea. To prevent the outflow of the Russian population from Crimea, Moscow closed the Crimean bridge to civilian traffic.

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Russian claims to Crimea don't have anything to do with ownership. Even Putin couldn't exercise his ownership of Russia if he owned it all!

Russian claims to Crimea have to do with governmental protection. While people in Crimea have all kinds of ideas about Russian protection, it seems that the majority of them would rather be protected by Russian governmental ideals than their own. They voted Russia in.

Why would they vote Russia in? Why not use their own self-governing? Because they are smart enough to realize that they AREN'T smart enough to effectively govern themselves.

Whoever was in charge of Crimea before they brought Russia back to themselves, realized that they needed a strong government that they didn't have. Now that they got Russia (back), they will have to pay taxes to Russia in one form or another. But they would have had to pay taxes to anybody for any protection.

Russian success, while not success in taking over the world, is still great success in Eastern-Europe/Western-Asia. Let's use this success by joining Russia... says Crimea.

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Quote from: igorokavg13 on September 17, 2016, 11:22:01 AM

Crimea belongs to Ukraine. You can not just go and pick up a piece of land. Even if they belonged once Russia. It is necessary to respect the borders of neighboring states. After all this, and there is an international agreement to abide by them.

Don't you believe (independently of the reality on the ground) that some people may chose to change state? If the Crimeans want to be a territory of Russia why couldn't they? Isn't self determination not only becoming independent but equally the right to ask to join another country? If a part of Russia wanted to become Ukrainian would you see a problem in it?

There's no doubt that Crimea once belonged to the Russians before it was legally owned by Ukraine. If Crimea wants to change its state there's always a way to do it legally not through weapons and like the user said it is important to respect the neighboring country's border until the move is complete.

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Quote from: Alik Bahshi on September 19, 2022, 02:48:08 AM

In this article from 2006, I foresaw that Russia would attack Ukraine and annex Crimea.

Anybody can guess an obvious happening. Lots of people foresaw a bit of war. After all, when Ukraine is stupid enough to mess with Russia, anybody can see that a time will come where Russia will fight back.

Haven't you ever heard the saying, "Give a monkey a keyboard, and he will certainly type a word sometime?" Good guess in your predictions.

Btw, Crimea voted for Russian strength to come back to them.

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In this article from 2006, I foresaw that Russia would attack Ukraine and annex Crimea.

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Quote from: Waradlain on December 13, 2018, 06:06:08 PM

Quote from: Alik Bahshi on December 13, 2018, 12:37:55 PM

The International Criminal Court in The Hague qualified the accession of the peninsula to Russia as an “international armed conflict between the Russian Federation and Ukraine”.

At the moment, the “evidence of the crimes of Russia that it has committed and is committing in the Crimea, in particular, crimes against humanity” provided by the Ukrainian side are being studied in The Hague. https://politobzor.net/183399-na-ukr...zen.yandex.com

Man your source doesn't look good I don't think someone will ever click that yandex.com crap.

The decision of the Hague court on the annexation of Crimea by Russia will not change from the source of the link.

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Quote from: Alik Bahshi on December 13, 2018, 12:37:55 PM

The International Criminal Court in The Hague qualified the accession of the peninsula to Russia as an “international armed conflict between the Russian Federation and Ukraine”.

At the moment, the “evidence of the crimes of Russia that it has committed and is committing in the Crimea, in particular, crimes against humanity” provided by the Ukrainian side are being studied in The Hague. https://politobzor.net/183399-na-ukr...zen.yandex.com

Man your source doesn't look good I don't think someone will ever click that yandex.com crap.

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The International Criminal Court in The Hague qualified the accession of the peninsula to Russia as an “international armed conflict between the Russian Federation and Ukraine”.

At the moment, the “evidence of the crimes of Russia that it has committed and is committing in the Crimea, in particular, crimes against humanity” provided by the Ukrainian side are being studied in The Hague. https://politobzor.net/183399-na-ukr...zen.yandex.com

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Here's an unbiased point of view by Sir Roderic Lyne speaking at UCL (University College London). Verdict: it's neither Russian, nor Ukrainian. It should belong to Tartars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZkAf78D9Ks

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So, "The US State Department issued the" Crimean Declaration ", in which the official policy of the United States is the refusal to recognize Crimea as part of Russia.

"Together with the allies, partners and the international community of the USA, they reject the attempt of Russia to annex Crimea and promise to support this policy until the territorial integrity of Ukraine is restored," the statement signed by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said.

It is interesting that "The document contains a reference to the declaration of Welles 1940, according to which the United States formally refused to recognize Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia as part of the USSR Formally it operated until the collapse of the Soviet Union." https://iz.ru/770885/2018-07-25/gosd...-statuse-kryma

NATO countries supported the "Crimean Declaration".

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Azerbaijani moron got to the English forum? do not listen to this idiot, his head is not in order.

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What's the question? Of course Crimea is Ukraine. There is a recognized UN borders and they should not be changed. The fact that the Russian saying about the referendum is a lie. It was not and it will never be recognized. Even if residents don't like the government then they always have the opportunity to change it at elections or to emigrate. No one can separate territory.

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Quote from: igorokavg13 on September 17, 2016, 11:22:01 AM

Crimea belongs to Ukraine. You can not just go and pick up a piece of land. Even if they belonged once Russia. It is necessary to respect the borders of neighboring states. After all this, and there is an international agreement to abide by them.

There is no international agreement that is respected in all of cases. Many countries broke it when they have interest in it. You say it is necessary to respect borders of neighboring states. By me, it is more necessary to respect wish of Crimean people than people from Kiev, or Lviv who are thousands km away from Crimea.

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There is no metter to ask whose Crimea. I think all normal people, who chek news and don`t believe fakes, knows, that this is a part of Ukraine

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Quote from: LeonardoDiCrypto on October 31, 2017, 05:15:41 PM

It is very easy to know whose Crimea: just ask the Crimean people. Incidentally this already happened. You don't like the result? Well, then ask them again, don't just pretend you know better than them.

Exactly. More than 95% of the Crimeans want to be part of Russia and many of the western agencies have also confirmed this in their opinion polls and surveys. Only a section of the Muslim Tatars don't want to be a part of Russia. But they don't want Crimea to be a part of Ukraine either. They are more interested in merging the peninsula with Turkey.

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It is very easy to know whose Crimea: just ask the Crimean people. Incidentally this already happened. You don't like the result? Well, then ask them again, don't just pretend you know better than them.

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I have one question brewing - why they need more land, if they can't develop their 6,5 mln sq miles - the normal life, as I understand it, is only in Moscow and St. Petersburg, and everything else is a poor and undeveloped village...

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Quote from: Racey on August 23, 2016, 02:50:06 PM

Really glad that Crimea took matters into safe hands by democratic vote they accepted to rejoin Russia.
Otherwise it would have been a terrible bloodbath, they are now protected by the sane, instead of the insane.

Maybe. Just people in Crimea get the poorer as in other areas.

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