Bitcoin is a great concept. But in reality today it seems quite chaotic with all the scamming, hacking etc..
That is not something exclusive to Bitcoin. Ever counted the amount of Nigerian prince emails and phishing mails in your spam box? 
Topic: Why all the bitcoin haters? - page 2. (Read 4564 times)
i'd say they are idiots, they don't get it, they can't do it, and they hate you for being paid more than their hard earned money 
Bitcoin is a great concept. But in reality today it seems quite chaotic with all the scamming, hacking etc..
I'm willing to do it but:
1) I need to polish everything to make it publishable. Currently, those are only note, most of them hand written. This is a somewhat important work.
1) I need to polish everything to make it publishable. Currently, those are only note, most of them hand written. This is a somewhat important work.
Scan the notes, upload them and publish them in the forum, in an own thread.
I would definitely skim through them and get typing (if they're not utterly nonsense
). Why not share said plan with the community?
I'm willing to do it but:
1) I need to polish everything to make it publishable. Currently, those are only note, most of them hand written. This is a somewhat important work.
2) The plan itself has no real value. Only an implementation would. (I'm anti patent and I'm not seeking to protect ideas). What is the point of discussing that kind of plan? All we need is someone willing to invest (money or time) to make such plan happen. And I don't think I could do that alone.
But, to be honnest, the main reason is 1) and my lazyness ;-)
Why not share said plan with the community?
I'm willing to do it but:
1) I need to polish everything to make it publishable. Currently, those are only note, most of them hand written. This is a somewhat important work.
2) The plan itself has no real value. Only an implementation would. (I'm anti patent and I'm not seeking to protect ideas). What is the point of discussing that kind of plan? All we need is someone willing to invest (money or time) to make such plan happen. And I don't think I could do that alone.
But, to be honnest, the main reason is 1) and my lazyness ;-)
When just signing up for the service itself quadruples the number of possible points of intrusion into my financial ecosystem, why?
Sign up for what service exactly?The user friendliness example doesn't seem to be that big of a deal to me.
You are a geek. You simply cannot understand. I know, I'm fighting this every single day since the last 10 years.
Do you know the difference between the Ipod and all the other MP3 players that were on the market 2 years before the Ipod? The Ipod is more expansive. And is user friendly.
Same goes for the Iphone and everything else.
1% of the geek population care about effectiveness, security and stuffs like that. (they are using Linux for example). 99% want something easy. Or very cool. Paying will never be cool. As long as bitcoin is not usable by brain dead morons, no chance to seeing taking of.
(And as I said somewhere else, I have the complete plan written to make Bitcoin user friendly. But I believe that developing everything I describe in that document will cost something like 20 or 30 man/months. I cannot afford that, unfortunately)
It's pretty simple: the unfairness of early adopters and the fact that it resembles ponzi in that respect.
Clearly, mainstream support is not what is going to ensure the success of this currency.
The real acid test for this currency is whether it succeeds despite the hate. If it continues to go from strength to strength regardless, mainstream will notice and pile in and the rest will be history. If it stutters and fails to take hold, that will be the end of bitcoin.
Clearly, mainstream support is not what is going to ensure the success of this currency.
The real acid test for this currency is whether it succeeds despite the hate. If it continues to go from strength to strength regardless, mainstream will notice and pile in and the rest will be history. If it stutters and fails to take hold, that will be the end of bitcoin.
It takes far too much reading to understand bitcoin. Like anything that you didn't grow up with it is hard to integrate it into a world view. There is always resistance to change and given the complexity of bitcoin it is going to be ridiculed until it has laid down a solid track record and shown itself resistant to continuous and real attack.
There are problems with it so smart people have reason to be wary. Given the potential for freeing the world from centralized economic control it is bound to be attacked with the full force of the current world order once they fully understand how to best do that.
There are problems with it so smart people have reason to be wary. Given the potential for freeing the world from centralized economic control it is bound to be attacked with the full force of the current world order once they fully understand how to best do that.
Everybody always loves the status quo, you know...
There's no contradiction between the early adopters getting rich and bitcoin failing to keep its value in the future. All that's required for them to get rich is for the price to go high enough for long enough and with enough BTC-USD trading volume. Once that's been managed, the whole thing can fail spectacularly and they'll still have a small fortune if they've played their cards right. In fact, it's possible the process of them cashing out will be partly what triggers the whole thing to fail spectacularly.
Exactly. That's the way most pump and dump schemes go. There's a good chance it's already gone.
I hope so. Because the price is still $17. If the "dump" is over, then great. That means we can get on with it.
The user friendliness example doesn't seem to be that big of a deal to me.
You are a geek. You simply cannot understand. I know, I'm fighting this every single day since the last 10 years.
Do you know the difference between the Ipod and all the other MP3 players that were on the market 2 years before the Ipod? The Ipod is more expansive. And is user friendly.
Same goes for the Iphone and everything else.
1% of the geek population care about effectiveness, security and stuffs like that. (they are using Linux for example). 99% want something easy. Or very cool. Paying will never be cool. As long as bitcoin is not usable by brain dead morons, no chance to seeing taking of.
(And as I said somewhere else, I have the complete plan written to make Bitcoin user friendly. But I believe that developing everything I describe in that document will cost something like 20 or 30 man/months. I cannot afford that, unfortunately)
I understand what you mean now. Yes it is pretty user unfriendly then. Gives me food for thought..
In my personal opinion many people think they missed the boat on something potentially big so they slam it because they weren't aware. I also think the security reasons are another big factor, but we'll see what happens with Bitcoin soon.
People shouldn't slam it that hard yet..I mean it's only just claimed its fame. People are just pissed they didn't cash out at the penny prices per BTC. But I believe there is still money to be made.
Forums..make me nervous..
So I'll just apologize now..in advance for the irritation I may cause to..anyone.
Sorry if I'm "Doing It Wrong".
Truly.
Anyway.."An Answer" to:
"Why All The Super Enraged Propaganda And Madness Against Bitcoin"? (Paraphrased obviously)
As a "Progressive"..and "Country Boy" (aka "Obedience? What's That?")..I gotta say:
1) "These Are people Who..'Instinctively'..loathe and despise: 'AUTONOMY'!"
Autonomy is not merely a "Threat" to..well..frankly a terrifyingly large number of "Humans"..but is viewed..as a straight up "Personal Attack Against Them..um..Personally". I'm absolutely serious here people. This is real "Psychology" we're dealing with. Especially in current ra "America" a veritable "Culture" of Confrontation and Control.
Primary Threat: The "Threat" of an Autonomous Financial "Instrument" is VERY Real. I have Already Read and Heard..I repeat.."Already"..the words "Terrorism" used Dozens of times over the course of the last 6 months while referring to "BTC".
2) As stated above.."Confusion".
Yeah..good old: "Feeling Frustrated At Not Understanding The Concept, And It Not Being 'Plug n' Play'." Has MANY Folks "Angry" as in straight-up.."Road Rage" Angry.Genuine..Real..Anger. Y'know..Angry. Fer Reals.
Again.."Psychology" is very..nay..scratch that..Tragically...real in this instance.
Its "New"..and Is..Frankly..Complicated and.."Free".
And 'Aye There's The Rub". Free in all the "Worst Ways" to the Lock Step Minds of People whom..have a umm..how shall I say.."Low Tolerance for Independence". The Kind Of People Who Go On A Talk Show And Say "Autonomy is Not A Right!" Etc..
This is "Free Will Monetized" and guess what? THAT..ain't spose'd to be happening. Again..this is simply Reality. Its a Threat.
I have been somewhat surprised to notice the..Lack..of interest in "Suddenness" of the Attacks against BTC. "Day's" after FBI is given Green Light for "Expanded Operational Guidelines"..Shazam! Many "True Privacy" Person to Person (Face to Face) Sites G-o-n-e! (bitcoin-trade?)And Mt Gox "Attacked". Coincidence? Or "Free Reign, Go Get Em Boy's And Make An Example Of Em!" (?)
Also..lastly..there has been a slew..rash.. of "Can Anyone 'Lend Me' Their User Name and Password Because I Cannot Get Into (site xyz)..whine..whimper..blink-blink (all innocent intentions and 'Keen Kid' Big Crying Eye's).."
What We're All Involved In Here? It's Under Attack Because Its Autonomous And lacks Centralized Authoritarian Control Mechanisms. The Hierarchical Top-Down Power Structure has Spent Decades making absolutely certain "This Sort Of Thing"..Doesn't Happen. Oops!
Anyway..that's my PerSop.
So I'll just apologize now..in advance for the irritation I may cause to..anyone.
Sorry if I'm "Doing It Wrong".
Truly.
Anyway.."An Answer" to:
"Why All The Super Enraged Propaganda And Madness Against Bitcoin"? (Paraphrased obviously)
As a "Progressive"..and "Country Boy" (aka "Obedience? What's That?")..I gotta say:
1) "These Are people Who..'Instinctively'..loathe and despise: 'AUTONOMY'!"
Autonomy is not merely a "Threat" to..well..frankly a terrifyingly large number of "Humans"..but is viewed..as a straight up "Personal Attack Against Them..um..Personally". I'm absolutely serious here people. This is real "Psychology" we're dealing with. Especially in current ra "America" a veritable "Culture" of Confrontation and Control.
Primary Threat: The "Threat" of an Autonomous Financial "Instrument" is VERY Real. I have Already Read and Heard..I repeat.."Already"..the words "Terrorism" used Dozens of times over the course of the last 6 months while referring to "BTC".
2) As stated above.."Confusion".
Yeah..good old: "Feeling Frustrated At Not Understanding The Concept, And It Not Being 'Plug n' Play'." Has MANY Folks "Angry" as in straight-up.."Road Rage" Angry.Genuine..Real..Anger. Y'know..Angry. Fer Reals.
Again.."Psychology" is very..nay..scratch that..Tragically...real in this instance.
Its "New"..and Is..Frankly..Complicated and.."Free".
And 'Aye There's The Rub". Free in all the "Worst Ways" to the Lock Step Minds of People whom..have a umm..how shall I say.."Low Tolerance for Independence". The Kind Of People Who Go On A Talk Show And Say "Autonomy is Not A Right!" Etc..
This is "Free Will Monetized" and guess what? THAT..ain't spose'd to be happening. Again..this is simply Reality. Its a Threat.
I have been somewhat surprised to notice the..Lack..of interest in "Suddenness" of the Attacks against BTC. "Day's" after FBI is given Green Light for "Expanded Operational Guidelines"..Shazam! Many "True Privacy" Person to Person (Face to Face) Sites G-o-n-e! (bitcoin-trade?)And Mt Gox "Attacked". Coincidence? Or "Free Reign, Go Get Em Boy's And Make An Example Of Em!" (?)
Also..lastly..there has been a slew..rash.. of "Can Anyone 'Lend Me' Their User Name and Password Because I Cannot Get Into (site xyz)..whine..whimper..blink-blink (all innocent intentions and 'Keen Kid' Big Crying Eye's).."
What We're All Involved In Here? It's Under Attack Because Its Autonomous And lacks Centralized Authoritarian Control Mechanisms. The Hierarchical Top-Down Power Structure has Spent Decades making absolutely certain "This Sort Of Thing"..Doesn't Happen. Oops!
Anyway..that's my PerSop.
There are lots of uninteresting reasons why people might hate Bitcoin, ranging from pure jealousy to healthy skepticism.
In my personal opinion many people think they missed the boat on something potentially big so they slam it because they weren't aware. I also think the security reasons are another big factor, but we'll see what happens with Bitcoin soon.
The user friendliness example doesn't seem to be that big of a deal to me.
You are a geek. You simply cannot understand. I know, I'm fighting this every single day since the last 10 years.
Do you know the difference between the Ipod and all the other MP3 players that were on the market 2 years before the Ipod? The Ipod is more expansive. And is user friendly.
Same goes for the Iphone and everything else.
1% of the geek population care about effectiveness, security and stuffs like that. (they are using Linux for example). 99% want something easy. Or very cool. Paying will never be cool. As long as bitcoin is not usable by brain dead morons, no chance to seeing taking of.
(And as I said somewhere else, I have the complete plan written to make Bitcoin user friendly. But I believe that developing everything I describe in that document will cost something like 20 or 30 man/months. I cannot afford that, unfortunately)
people are afraid mainly because of uncertainty of the market. and there is also the fact that bitcoins are used for illegal trading which deters some people from becoming involved
nah, those guys hate everything 
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