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In my opinion, I think its because rich country invests more and they know how to make more than in poor country that they need to survive and get their own needs that they wish to turn down others eventhough they are family. I think crab mentality is the word to describe it..

No actually this is all about the lifestyle you are quite right in terms of how rich people uses or rotates their money. Poor people usually tend to buy things that they dont need and woulf always ended up having a debt
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the question is, why is the poor country poor?
maybe inability to utilize/convert available resources around them into source of income.
or low technological development, poor socialisation with neighboring country.
all this are factors that may be responsible for their poverty.
Newly developed countries very often use poor countries as a testing ground. And for these countries get pears, they money. Although this money does not even reach their citizens, who are rabbits in the laboratory.

How did rich countries got rich in the first place? You are walking around it as if the Earth was created that way in the first place.

the question is, why is the poor country poor?
maybe inability to utilize/convert available resources around them into source of income.
or low technological development, poor socialisation with neighboring country.
all this are factors that may be responsible for their poverty.
I'd say it's in the genes somewhere. I know it sounds racist, but think about it for a while.
2000 years ago people in China were writing books and building monuments, Romans were conquering Europe, and tribes in Africa were running naked and living in straw huts. They had to look for water every day, were being killed by wild animals, and never did anything about it.
The rest of the world built wells, aqueducts, dams, castles, finally factories, power plants, space stations, and tribes in Africa are still running around and killing each other for scraps.

Its not racist at all to recognize, that cognitive ability alters how you handle learning and applying skills in life.

In Africa also you have both über-rich and very poor folk, side by side. You are any-ist for recognizing, that the richer half of continent uses their heads better. You are using your own intelligence to correctly analyze ongoing process.
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the question is, why is the poor country poor?
maybe inability to utilize/convert available resources around them into source of income.
or low technological development, poor socialisation with neighboring country.
all this are factors that may be responsible for their poverty.
I'd say it's in the genes somewhere. I know it sounds racist, but think about it for a while.
2000 years ago people in China were writing books and building monuments, Romans were conquering Europe, and tribes in Africa were running naked and living in straw huts. They had to look for water every day, were being killed by wild animals, and never did anything about it.
The rest of the world built wells, aqueducts, dams, castles, finally factories, power plants, space stations, and tribes in Africa are still running around and killing each other for scraps.
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the question is, why is the poor country poor?
maybe inability to utilize/convert available resources around them into source of income.
or low technological development, poor socialisation with neighboring country.
all this are factors that may be responsible for their poverty.
Newly developed countries very often use poor countries as a testing ground. And for these countries get pears, they money. Although this money does not even reach their citizens, who are rabbits in the laboratory.
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One can certainly answer the question why one country is rich, and the other is a poor comma only if one analyzes who is in power and how the country's economy develops. For some reason in developing countries and poor countries, very strong And a large level of corruption along with people's poverty. While officials are very rich.

Another aspect is territory.  There are some countries that are obviously sitting on literal gold mines, oil reserves, exportable this and that, all manor of resources. 

This don't explain resource-rich countries that are still poor though, it seems even that some countries grow poorer after discovering resources like oil and diamonds. There's also those countries with no resources to exploit that get rich. Venice in the past grew so rich and powerful they were able to go head-to-head against empires, even to the point of gaining colonies, despite the city sitting on nothing but mud and brine. Singapore seem to be the modern counterpart (minus the colonialism).

In addition it depends to the president or leader of that country.  If the leader is pure and has no corruption in mind, then the country will prosper.  A country can be rich if all the people living there are educated, or maybe people there are smart, then if they have resources, and if the leader is not corrupt. 

In my opinion unless the country is a dictatorship the president won't matter. I believe as you that corruption is the key factor, but I don't think the rest of what you mentioned really matters because every country has some resources and smart people. I believe poor countries are poor primarily due to corruption and I think whats going to finally get them out of those problems are going to be technological solutions to help keep track of the money they spend. Blockchain technologies are going to be great for this as there is a public record of where everything goes.
Corruption exists in all countries, but the income is different. The welfare of the population directly depends on how people can control their politicians. The more control the richer people live. And it does not depend on the state of the management model and system.
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One can certainly answer the question why one country is rich, and the other is a poor comma only if one analyzes who is in power and how the country's economy develops. For some reason in developing countries and poor countries, very strong And a large level of corruption along with people's poverty. While officials are very rich.

Another aspect is territory.  There are some countries that are obviously sitting on literal gold mines, oil reserves, exportable this and that, all manor of resources. 

This don't explain resource-rich countries that are still poor though, it seems even that some countries grow poorer after discovering resources like oil and diamonds. There's also those countries with no resources to exploit that get rich. Venice in the past grew so rich and powerful they were able to go head-to-head against empires, even to the point of gaining colonies, despite the city sitting on nothing but mud and brine. Singapore seem to be the modern counterpart (minus the colonialism).

In addition it depends to the president or leader of that country.  If the leader is pure and has no corruption in mind, then the country will prosper.  A country can be rich if all the people living there are educated, or maybe people there are smart, then if they have resources, and if the leader is not corrupt. 

In my opinion unless the country is a dictatorship the president won't matter. I believe as you that corruption is the key factor, but I don't think the rest of what you mentioned really matters because every country has some resources and smart people. I believe poor countries are poor primarily due to corruption and I think whats going to finally get them out of those problems are going to be technological solutions to help keep track of the money they spend. Blockchain technologies are going to be great for this as there is a public record of where everything goes.
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the question is, why is the poor country poor?
maybe inability to utilize/convert available resources around them into source of income.
or low technological development, poor socialisation with neighboring country.
all this are factors that may be responsible for their poverty.
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One can certainly answer the question why one country is rich, and the other is a poor comma only if one analyzes who is in power and how the country's economy develops. For some reason in developing countries and poor countries, very strong And a large level of corruption along with people's poverty. While officials are very rich.

Another aspect is territory.  There are some countries that are obviously sitting on literal gold mines, oil reserves, exportable this and that, all manor of resources. 

This don't explain resource-rich countries that are still poor though, it seems even that some countries grow poorer after discovering resources like oil and diamonds. There's also those countries with no resources to exploit that get rich. Venice in the past grew so rich and powerful they were able to go head-to-head against empires, even to the point of gaining colonies, despite the city sitting on nothing but mud and brine. Singapore seem to be the modern counterpart (minus the colonialism).

In addition it depends to the president or leader of that country.  If the leader is pure and has no corruption in mind, then the country will prosper.  A country can be rich if all the people living there are educated, or maybe people there are smart, then if they have resources, and if the leader is not corrupt. 

Hi, I'm the one who posted the original query. So basically what I'm taking from these now is that there are several factors required for a country to prosper, right?

So basically, enough resources to exploit but not so much that it can make a dictatorship rich. Enough people that are smart and well educated. And low corruption.

That last one seem to stump everyone in the developing world. It almost seem that it is ingrained in their institutions. I wonder if this is only a matter of circumstance (setup by colonialists and was not replaced, a dictatorship in the past that set the country backwards, etc...) or if there is a cultural aspect to.
You can certainly pay attention to what countries were colonies of other countries, in past years. But the fact is that in poverty depends not only on the historical facts of the past, but also on how corrupt the government is.
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One can certainly answer the question why one country is rich, and the other is a poor comma only if one analyzes who is in power and how the country's economy develops. For some reason in developing countries and poor countries, very strong And a large level of corruption along with people's poverty. While officials are very rich.

Another aspect is territory.  There are some countries that are obviously sitting on literal gold mines, oil reserves, exportable this and that, all manor of resources. 

This don't explain resource-rich countries that are still poor though, it seems even that some countries grow poorer after discovering resources like oil and diamonds. There's also those countries with no resources to exploit that get rich. Venice in the past grew so rich and powerful they were able to go head-to-head against empires, even to the point of gaining colonies, despite the city sitting on nothing but mud and brine. Singapore seem to be the modern counterpart (minus the colonialism).

In addition it depends to the president or leader of that country.  If the leader is pure and has no corruption in mind, then the country will prosper.  A country can be rich if all the people living there are educated, or maybe people there are smart, then if they have resources, and if the leader is not corrupt. 

Hi, I'm the one who posted the original query. So basically what I'm taking from these now is that there are several factors required for a country to prosper, right?

So basically, enough resources to exploit but not so much that it can make a dictatorship rich. Enough people that are smart and well educated. And low corruption.

That last one seem to stump everyone in the developing world. It almost seem that it is ingrained in their institutions. I wonder if this is only a matter of circumstance (setup by colonialists and was not replaced, a dictatorship in the past that set the country backwards, etc...) or if there is a cultural aspect to.
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One can certainly answer the question why one country is rich, and the other is a poor comma only if one analyzes who is in power and how the country's economy develops. For some reason in developing countries and poor countries, very strong And a large level of corruption along with people's poverty. While officials are very rich.

Another aspect is territory.  There are some countries that are obviously sitting on literal gold mines, oil reserves, exportable this and that, all manor of resources. 

This don't explain resource-rich countries that are still poor though, it seems even that some countries grow poorer after discovering resources like oil and diamonds. There's also those countries with no resources to exploit that get rich. Venice in the past grew so rich and powerful they were able to go head-to-head against empires, even to the point of gaining colonies, despite the city sitting on nothing but mud and brine. Singapore seem to be the modern counterpart (minus the colonialism).

In addition it depends to the president or leader of that country.  If the leader is pure and has no corruption in mind, then the country will prosper.  A country can be rich if all the people living there are educated, or maybe people there are smart, then if they have resources, and if the leader is not corrupt. 
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One can certainly answer the question why one country is rich, and the other is a poor comma only if one analyzes who is in power and how the country's economy develops. For some reason in developing countries and poor countries, very strong And a large level of corruption along with people's poverty. While officials are very rich.

Another aspect is territory.  There are some countries that are obviously sitting on literal gold mines, oil reserves, exportable this and that, all manor of resources. 

This don't explain resource-rich countries that are still poor though, it seems even that some countries grow poorer after discovering resources like oil and diamonds. There's also those countries with no resources to exploit that get rich. Venice in the past grew so rich and powerful they were able to go head-to-head against empires, even to the point of gaining colonies, despite the city sitting on nothing but mud and brine. Singapore seem to be the modern counterpart (minus the colonialism).
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It boils down to how corrupt the government is and how respo si le the people residing in it are. Though i think it's more on the government side. If you look at the poor countries, the government that runs the country would be riddled with corrupt politicians and a few rich personalities that doesn't seem to mind the country's status. The regular citizens also doesn't seem to mind and have been used to it as well.

Yes, the corrupt government improves only its standard of living, and not the standard of living of the country. If there were no corruption in many countries, they could significantly improve their standard of living.
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It boils down to how corrupt the government is and how respo si le the people residing in it are. Though i think it's more on the government side. If you look at the poor countries, the government that runs the country would be riddled with corrupt politicians and a few rich personalities that doesn't seem to mind the country's status. The regular citizens also doesn't seem to mind and have been used to it as well.
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Probably there can not be such to avoid the poor and rich countries. The world is so constituted that the rich countries are like vampires drink blood from poor countries that is why they are poor. To escape from this circle very difficult. If China will succeed he will be a worthy example to follow.
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One can certainly answer the question why one country is rich, and the other is a poor comma only if one analyzes who is in power and how the country's economy develops. For some reason in developing countries and poor countries, very strong And a large level of corruption along with people's poverty. While officials are very rich.

Another aspect is territory.  There are some countries that are obviously sitting on literal gold mines, oil reserves, exportable this and that, all manor of resources. 
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This a complicated issue. many of the poor countries will remain poor because they have no money to invest into technology or development of the same and that can be due to war, previous corrupt governments, lack of educated people,etc... that question cannot ne answered that easy and it's not the same problem and it's solution for every country.
The poorer the country the richer live in it officials. For me this is a sure indicator. It seems to me that the cause of the ills of Africans are not officials, and the people who vote for them. Dictatorship is not born in a vacuum. Her arrival help the people themselves which bring the dictators to power. So I am sure that you need to start not with the regime change, and with ourselves.

Hmm... Nigeria is a classic example. Most of the military rulers became filthy rich after a few years in power. Ibrahim Babangida, who ruled Nigeria from 1985 to 1993 is believed to have stolen at least $12 billion from the national treasury.
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This a complicated issue. many of the poor countries will remain poor because they have no money to invest into technology or development of the same and that can be due to war, previous corrupt governments, lack of educated people,etc... that question cannot ne answered that easy and it's not the same problem and it's solution for every country.
The poorer the country the richer live in it officials. For me this is a sure indicator. It seems to me that the cause of the ills of Africans are not officials, and the people who vote for them. Dictatorship is not born in a vacuum. Her arrival help the people themselves which bring the dictators to power. So I am sure that you need to start not with the regime change, and with ourselves.
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And don't tell me in Africa with free market it is not possible. It is. Look at Botswana

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This a complicated issue. many of the poor countries will remain poor because they have no money to invest into technology or development of the same and that can be due to war, previous corrupt governments, lack of educated people,etc... that question cannot ne answered that easy and it's not the same problem and it's solution for every country.
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*National IQ per country - estimates by Lynn and Vanhanen 2006

 I don't imagine one need look too much further for an explanation.

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My country is 66, now it's explained why many politicians in my country are retarded.
The biggest problem of Africa is corruption and lack of democracy

The legal system and the police are corrupted by the state

Don't buy in to this. Remember how Arabs used to look down on Europeans as uncultured, dirty infidels.

IQ is a very complex thing to be easily quantified. And even then, those people with high IQ don't always succeed in life. You can expect a country's average IQ level to go up as it starts to prosper since people would have more access to knowledge and "brains" starts to look as an attractive trait in a mate and so would be selected for.
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