Topic: Why are rich countries rich and poor countries poor? - page 12. (Read 16582 times)

"Thanks" for wikipedia definition   I think even dead are able to make difference between poor and rich.

The thing is, that some countries were able to grow from poor to rich, while other stayed poor.


True, however, if you went back in history, youd find that practically all of current existing societies were dependant on agriculture. Netherlands, cradle of capitalism used to be backwards fishery of Reich just 500 years ago and Norways living standarts were comparable to those of Somalia. Something changed and those countries emerged as world leaders in productivity over the course of several generations. Without apparent help from outside too.

In similar regard, for some reason Roman and old chinese empires emerged where they did and how they did, not in Africa or South America. Then and there. For "some" reason  

Well rich countries' economy and politics are very stable compare to poor countries that the politicians are very corrupt that's why poor countries can't see the light of the country being lift. Pity.

To find out why there are rich countries and some poor countries, we must have some things, the first is the concept of Gross Domestic Product (GDP). GDP is a measure of the economic level of a country. Simply put, GDP is the addition of all production activities of goods and services within a year. The greater this amount (eg buying iron and turning into a car), the greater the GDP of a country. Indonesia's GDP rating in 2014 is 16, this is higher than the Netherlands (17) and Malaysia (35), then is Indonesia a rich country?

Unfortunately the large GDP is the contribution of the entire population of the country, so you can imagine we have an income of Rp. 100 million but have 100 children, our life will be very bad. To better see the size of individual wealth, we will use per capita GDP that divides GDP by population. Indonesia's per capita GDP is ranked 118, the Netherlands (13), and Malaysia (62).

Based on these measures, poor countries are countries with low per capita GDP, and rich countries are countries with high GDP per capita. Why is there a rich country? Because they are able to produce high value products with many numbers, this is the concept of PRODUCTIVITY. In the case of GDP per capita, countries wishing to improve their welfare should (1) increase activity and goods, or (2) reduce their population.

That is not the reason. In poor countries, usually 80% to 85% of the population is dependent upon agriculture. In the developed nations, this percentage is around 2% to 3%. If the farmer population is larger, that means less land per farm, and less profits per farm owner.

On a side note, this just made me laugh out loud in the morning.

The research found that ancient Egyptians were most closely related to Neolithic Levantine, Anatolian and European populations. The mummies tested did not share strong genetic links to Africa often found in modern Egyptians.

“This suggests that an increase in Sub-Saharan African gene flow into Egypt occurred within the last 1,500 years,” Wolfgang Haak, who led the research team, said in a statement.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/30/scientists-map-the-genome-of-ancient-egyptian-kings-and-they-werent-from-africa/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

Further proving, that capability to organize productive culture might be atleast partially backed by inherent IQ and genetics.

There is not anything funny about that. Its the topic of this entire thread. Some nations and tribes have inherent IQ and culture, that produces people with high work ethics. Others do not. The only question is how large role do those two play.

We can agree on the fact, that resources are not everything - as they eventually run out. Rich Arab states will become poor again, when oil dries out. Japan or Iceland will stay rich regardless.


Rich countries used to be poor at one time too (altough we are probadly talking about time in history, where your "poor countries" of today did not even exist on map), they were able to develope, more often than net without outside help.

The rich countries include industrialization, advanced technology, advanced education system, improved agricultural system and skilled workers. There is no system in the poor countries, poor countries are largely dependent on agriculture. But poor countries have poor agricultural system. So poor country They are poor.

Russia may be corrupt, but it is not as corrupt as your own country (Ukraine). So I thought that there is no point in singling out Russia. BTW.. perhaps it will be better for you guys to take care of your own country, rather than dragging the name of Russia in each and every topic here?

No simple answer to that question. A lot of factors play a role. Aside countries that experienced war, corruption is the major reason why some countries are poor. By being poor, it implies that life is hard for a large number of people. You will see some countries with a lot of resources but due to mismanagement of public funds et al, the money is in circulation within just few people, and the masses just suffer and live each day with stress and struggles. The funniest part is that some countries that don't even have huge resources will find a way to make things work for them by developing their country to the optimal level to make it worthwhile for even their generations unborn. This is one of the advantages of having good leaders in the helms of affair.

When you talk about Turkmenistan or North Korea, you deliberately avoid Russia. This country is also mired in corruption and the most educated people try to leave it. For this reason, Russian is very poor in a very rich country.

This is so called economics. And this is the way of thinking of developed countries about domination over poor countries. If there is no longer available for poverty then how a greedy country lead a corruption. Poverty is a curse.  Many African countries have huge amount of mineral resources but the lack of discipline they're being deprived of their own things, sad but true that developed countries are always trying to put a dispute among the natives and so that big fish can grab the fruit of the land.

That may be true. But there is no democracy in that country, and a lot of people are trying to escape from the dictatorship. The political prisoners are being held in labor camps, similar to those in North Korea.

Rich people exists cause poor people exists. If there was no poor people, there would have been no rich people. There always will be class difference. It's all natural. Imagine if everyone was extremely rich. Would anyone want to work? Nope. There would be a total disaster. Equilibrium will be lost. The rich and the poor balances the nature.

Because Turkmenistan is like Venezuela before the oil price drop.
They have one of the biggest natural gas deposits in the world and huge oil deposits with just 6 million citiziens (venezuel 31 million citiziens).

Electricity, water, gas and oil (some hundred liters per month) is free.... free.... venezuela much?
They are just lucky that they have 1/5 of the population.

People must do everything to eradicate corruption in the country and remove bad officials and then each country can be rich enough for citizens to live normally.

Its all done to the leaders in the country, some leaders want to make their country great whiles others want the position just to loot the national coffers. And that's the difference.

Regardless of what level of life Turkmenistan has, this country has every opportunity to succeed and improve its social guarantees for citizens, for example, from a country such as Nigeria or Somalia or something like that.

Underdevelopment is due to a number of reasons. You can't single out a particular reason. Corruption and lack of education are among the top reasons, but each have exceptions. For example, Turkmenistan was recently rated as the 6th most corrupt country in the world by Forbes. But still it remains a very rich country.

Its simple rich countries developed technologies and battled corruption early on. The main reason poor countries stay poor is because they are getting robbed by the people running their countries. The technology is there for every country in the world to become developed.

Most of the very poor countries are those officials who are responsible for this condition. Of course there is another fault of this little education of those citizens who live poorly. But it is unequivocal in this matter bitcoin can help no one, if the statement of the question sounded just like that.