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Topic: Why are some people still skeptical about climate change? - page 11. (Read 22181 times)
People are going to be skeptical about anything that requires understanding of multiple scientific principles at work in a dynamic system with many variables. Traditionally, the uneducated have just called this type of thing "god". There is no point in debating climate change with people who don't understand the greenhouse effect, carbon cycle, geological time, combustion, ocean currents, the effect of salinity on density, or the difference between weather and climate.
We have people who think the whole earth was once flooded, people who think it is 5000 years old, people who think it is FLAT. Imagine trying to get those people to understand this when they don't know the basics.
We have people who think the whole earth was once flooded, people who think it is 5000 years old, people who think it is FLAT. Imagine trying to get those people to understand this when they don't know the basics.
Could you possibly get any further up your own ass? I am here, I am willing to debate you. So far I have seen ZERO reliable evidence to support the anthropogenic climate change model. Change my mind. Use facts and sourced references.
People are going to be skeptical about anything that requires understanding of multiple scientific principles at work in a dynamic system with many variables. Traditionally, the uneducated have just called this type of thing "god". There is no point in debating climate change with people who don't understand the greenhouse effect, carbon cycle, geological time, combustion, ocean currents, the effect of salinity on density, or the difference between weather and climate.
We have people who think the whole earth was once flooded, people who think it is 5000 years old, people who think it is FLAT. Imagine trying to get those people to understand this when they don't know the basics.
We have people who think the whole earth was once flooded, people who think it is 5000 years old, people who think it is FLAT. Imagine trying to get those people to understand this when they don't know the basics.
I'm feeling it on my own skin, it's not a matter of belief 
it's november but it feels like summer
it's november but it feels like summerUh oh....check this out!
https://www.iceagenow.info/lack-of-sunspots-to-bring-record-cold-warns-nasa-scientist/
Lack of sunspots to bring record cold, warns NASA scientist
“The sun is entering one of the deepest Solar Minima of the Space Age,” wrote Dr Tony Phillips just six weeks ago, on 27 Sep 2018.
Sunspots have been absent for most of 2018 and Earth’s upper atmosphere is responding, says Phillips, editor of spaceweather.com.
Data from NASA’s TIMED satellite show that the thermosphere (the uppermost layer of air around our planet) is cooling and shrinking, literally decreasing the radius of the atmosphere.
To help track the latest developments, Martin Mlynczak of NASA’s Langley Research Center and his colleagues recently introduced the “Thermosphere Climate Index.”
The Thermosphere Climate Index (TCI) tells how much heat nitric oxide (NO) molecules are dumping into space. During Solar Maximum, TCI is high (meaning “Hot”); during Solar Minimum, it is low (meaning “Cold”).
“Right now, it is very low indeed … 10 times smaller than we see during more active phases of the solar cycle,” says Mlynczak
I think people don't really understand the whole concept of climate change. At first it was about global warming, it didn't work, people didn't understood what that is really about. Then, it was about climate change, not many know what that is also. Something more convincing should be promoted to people in order to make them believe that what the environment suffers from mankind mass destruction is going to affect themselves, their children and the whole world. The problem here is: what about the ones saying: i don't care. we will die anyway. How do we convince those? Maybe with aggressive advertising or real situations.
I saw today a post on Facebook with a polar bear crawling, very skinny, starving, etc. My heart melted. But for those that don't care, how do we make them more emphatic to this matter?
I saw today a post on Facebook with a polar bear crawling, very skinny, starving, etc. My heart melted. But for those that don't care, how do we make them more emphatic to this matter?
It seems to me that you, like many other who support the anthropogenic global warming theory tend to think more with your emotions than with your logic. Just wanting good things does not guarantee you your path will achieve it. That is what logic is for.
I'm feeling it on my own skin, it's not a matter of belief it's november but it feels like summer
it's november but it feels like summer
I think people don't really understand the whole concept of climate change. At first it was about global warming, it didn't work, people didn't understood what that is really about. Then, it was about climate change, not many know what that is also. Something more convincing should be promoted to people in order to make them believe that what the environment suffers from mankind mass destruction is going to affect themselves, their children and the whole world. The problem here is: what about the ones saying: i don't care. we will die anyway. How do we convince those? Maybe with aggressive advertising or real situations.
I saw today a post on Facebook with a polar bear crawling, very skinny, starving, etc. My heart melted. But for those that don't care, how do we make them more emphatic to this matter?
I saw today a post on Facebook with a polar bear crawling, very skinny, starving, etc. My heart melted. But for those that don't care, how do we make them more emphatic to this matter?
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http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/09/28/mit-climate-scientist-dr-richard-lindzen-rips-un-ipcc-report-the-latest-ipcc-report-has-truly-sunk-to-level-of-hilarious-incoherence-it-is-quite-amazing-to-see-the-contortions-the-ipcc-has/
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/political-climate
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/new-and-cool/urban_heat_island_could_it_account_for_most_warming_attributed_to_agw/
https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Climategate
https://www.forbes.com/sites/workday/2018/10/25/a-top-priority-for-todays-cfo-having-confidence-in-your-data/
Long story short, the IPCC has been shown to not take into account urban heat islands when placing temperature monitoring stations leading so skewed (higher) measurements. In addition their models are based off of the data presented by Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia (UEA), which has been proven to have manipulated the past data to make it appear lower than it should have to give the appearance of a rise in temperature. Your supposed facts here have already been shredded, you just refuse to take our head out of the sand and review it, because if it disagrees with you, it must be made by "science denying idiots".
http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/09/28/mit-climate-scientist-dr-richard-lindzen-rips-un-ipcc-report-the-latest-ipcc-report-has-truly-sunk-to-level-of-hilarious-incoherence-it-is-quite-amazing-to-see-the-contortions-the-ipcc-has/
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/political-climate
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/new-and-cool/urban_heat_island_could_it_account_for_most_warming_attributed_to_agw/
https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Climategate
https://www.forbes.com/sites/workday/2018/10/25/a-top-priority-for-todays-cfo-having-confidence-in-your-data/
Long story short, the IPCC has been shown to not take into account urban heat islands when placing temperature monitoring stations leading so skewed (higher) measurements. In addition their models are based off of the data presented by Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia (UEA), which has been proven to have manipulated the past data to make it appear lower than it should have to give the appearance of a rise in temperature. Your supposed facts here have already been shredded, you just refuse to take our head out of the sand and review it, because if it disagrees with you, it must be made by "science denying idiots".
Forgive me if I'm feeling lazy, but just finally got indoors and it's colder than a witch's tit out there, and the wind is howling, probably approaching the katabatibc winds of Antarctica. Well, maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration. Still, I hope they've got an ample supply of fossil fuels down there.
So my question is, did those clowns at the IPCC ever create a chapter in their magic holy book on solar influences? Last I heard they had not understood the CERN Cloud experiments and their impact.
Many people, specially big corporations, just because of business.
If you're running a company that has a direct influence over climate change, its normal and logic that you will say that climate change is not something real.
As to the masses, well. It's been said above, some people still think that the world is flat. That is pretty much of a good background on what's the current state of society.
They discovered that the world is round hundreds of years ago, but stubborn minds are not something that scarce.
If you're running a company that has a direct influence over climate change, its normal and logic that you will say that climate change is not something real.
As to the masses, well. It's been said above, some people still think that the world is flat. That is pretty much of a good background on what's the current state of society.
They discovered that the world is round hundreds of years ago, but stubborn minds are not something that scarce.
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GIB ME DA PROOF BOIIIII!!
No source = fake news!~!!!!
inb4 some alt-right conspiracy bullshit where they also proclaim the earth is flat on the same site.
GIB ME DA PROOF BOIIIII!!
No source = fake news!~!!!!
inb4 some alt-right conspiracy bullshit where they also proclaim the earth is flat on the same site.
You talk and act childish, you want to get responses?
Oh, I was just summarizing your argument methodology.
I suppose I should put quote around it otherwise it could be considered plagiarism
But the fact that you couldn't provide proof means you've conceded on your point; good debate my fellow. Nice to own you yet again.
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GIB ME DA PROOF BOIIIII!!
No source = fake news!~!!!!
inb4 some alt-right conspiracy bullshit where they also proclaim the earth is flat on the same site.
GIB ME DA PROOF BOIIIII!!
No source = fake news!~!!!!
inb4 some alt-right conspiracy bullshit where they also proclaim the earth is flat on the same site.
You talk and act childish, you want to get responses?
It's a scientific fact that the overall temperature is rising. The problem most people have with this theory, is that the media is claiming it's due to human influences that the worlds temperature is rising. Which can be disproven very easily. Humans have a very, very minor effect on climate change. The worlds temperature has gone up and down over the last thousands and thousands of years. For example : 300 years ago it was almost 1 C° higher than it is now.
So that's my problem with the theory. Although you simply can't deny that climate change isn't happening.
So that's my problem with the theory. Although you simply can't deny that climate change isn't happening.
Here's a nice timeline. It's pretty smooth, even though there's changes greater than 1C. Notice the extreme curve in recent history?
(deleted the Al Gore Hockey Stick)
Normally non-man made climate change takes place over tens of thousands of years, not hundreds.
GIB ME DA PROOF BOIIIII!!
No source = fake news!~!!!!
inb4 some alt-right conspiracy bullshit where they also proclaim the earth is flat on the same site.
First people, who will start to speak about climate changes, will be real estate owners at beaches. Their real estate are very expensive, so they will soon start to think. 
It's a scientific fact that the overall temperature is rising. The problem most people have with this theory, is that the media is claiming it's due to human influences that the worlds temperature is rising. Which can be disproven very easily. Humans have a very, very minor effect on climate change. The worlds temperature has gone up and down over the last thousands and thousands of years. For example : 300 years ago it was almost 1 C° higher than it is now.
So that's my problem with the theory. Although you simply can't deny that climate change isn't happening.
So that's my problem with the theory. Although you simply can't deny that climate change isn't happening.
Here's a nice timeline. It's pretty smooth, even though there's changes greater than 1C. Notice the extreme curve in recent history?
(deleted the Al Gore Hockey Stick)
Normally non-man made climate change takes place over tens of thousands of years, not hundreds.
It's a scientific fact that the overall temperature is rising. The problem most people have with this theory, is that the media is claiming it's due to human influences that the worlds temperature is rising. Which can be disproven very easily. Humans have a very, very minor effect on climate change. The worlds temperature has gone up and down over the last thousands and thousands of years. For example : 300 years ago it was almost 1 C° higher than it is now.
So that's my problem with the theory. Although you simply can't deny that climate change isn't happening.
So that's my problem with the theory. Although you simply can't deny that climate change isn't happening.
Here's a nice timeline. It's pretty smooth, even though there's changes greater than 1C. Notice the extreme curve in recent history?
Normally non-man made climate change takes place over tens of thousands of years, not hundreds.
It's a scientific fact that the overall temperature is rising. The problem most people have with this theory, is that the media is claiming it's due to human influences that the worlds temperature is rising. Which can be disproven very easily. Humans have a very, very minor effect on climate change. The worlds temperature has gone up and down over the last thousands and thousands of years. For example : 300 years ago it was almost 1 C° higher than it is now.
So that's my problem with the theory. Although you simply can't deny that climate change isn't happening.
So that's my problem with the theory. Although you simply can't deny that climate change isn't happening.
Some believe that the changes are cyclical and that one point nature will find a way to get itself back to normal.
But most specialists say that the results will be catastrophic should the powers that be not intervene.
I think so as well. But for them to intervene would mean to spend a lot of money and disrupt their current money making schemes.
But most specialists say that the results will be catastrophic should the powers that be not intervene.
I think so as well. But for them to intervene would mean to spend a lot of money and disrupt their current money making schemes.
This vid from the spring was kind of funny and relevant to this topic.
Joe Rogan made Candace Owens look like an idiot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lD29jqH078
I love how he keeps hammering away and won't let her whataboutism move the questions off track.
I love how he keeps asking her why do you believe when you don't know, and she just answers with nonsensical bullshit!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lD29jqH078
Joe Rogan made Candace Owens look like an idiot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lD29jqH078
I love how he keeps hammering away and won't let her whataboutism move the questions off track.
I love how he keeps asking her why do you believe when you don't know, and she just answers with nonsensical bullshit!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lD29jqH078
A certain party thrives off nonsensical bullshit if you haven't noticed.
I'm pretty sure people who support her totally agree with her arguments even though they're absolutely nonsensical.
This vid from the spring was kind of funny and relevant to this topic.
Joe Rogan made Candace Owens look like an idiot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lD29jqH078
I love how he keeps hammering away and won't let her whataboutism move the questions off track.
I love how he keeps asking her why do you believe when you don't know, and she just answers with nonsensical bullshit!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lD29jqH078
Joe Rogan made Candace Owens look like an idiot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lD29jqH078
I love how he keeps hammering away and won't let her whataboutism move the questions off track.
I love how he keeps asking her why do you believe when you don't know, and she just answers with nonsensical bullshit!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lD29jqH078
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