Topic: Why Are We Even Considering a Ban on AI Tools Like ChatGPT? (Read 197 times)

I don't even think it makes sense to even make a write up from ChatGPT and then make a reference to it as the source of the information that is being given because if it is allowed that means a lot of users here will equally be using AI generated texts and quoting for clarity and for reference purposes which will make the whole thing become disorganized.

People should not be too lazy to write texts by themselves. Perhaps, if anyone wants to use AI generated texts, they can possibly read and understand the context of the text generated by the AI and then form their own words and write up instead of copying and pasting everything as it appears on the AI generated ChatGPT.

Perhaps the reason why there are no clear rules about the use of artificial intelligence on the forum is that there is still no way/tool ​​that could detect a text as AI generated with 100% accuracy and without any doubt. Of course, there are tools that can provide fairly accurate detection, but the administration is currently hesitant to clearly define the rule on punishing those who abuse this technology and put such members in the same category as plagiarists.

Technically speaking, they are AI plagiarists, because they ask a question and copy the answer as a forum post, presenting it as their own. There is no difference between copying all/part of an article without citing the source.

Finally, I will say that all those who abuse AI and those who are about to do so for the reason that the forum does not officially forbid them - so even though there are those who commit plagiarism, it has long been known that such people get a permanent ban on the forum when they caught.

Such a rule for AI would not immediately solve the problem, but over a certain period of time people would still understand that it is something wrong and dangerous and that they should not do it. The problem will not solve itself, on the contrary, it will get worse and worse until it turns into a discussion of AI bots.

It's great but it's being abused by spammers to write English posts so that they can meet their campaign quotas. Most of the time they just copy and paste some reply into the AI and paste the answer here.

We should be looking at banning AI posts from signature campaigns (we already do that actually), but as far as I know, a total AI ban is not being considered.

Chabot/AI spammer getting bold these days and i hope moderator will nuke this user soon.


I see many chatbot/AI spammer spread false/fake information, where it may harm people in some ways (e.g. losing their coin/fiat). So with your "smart" example, it's as if people use car in stupid way where they may hit tree, building or even people.

Do you know, OP, the myth about how much of its capabilities the human brain uses? At the same time, we can train our brains ourselves. How can we do this? The answer is obvious, to think. But in your topic, you already admit that you are unable to express your thoughts so that you are understandable to people. Why? It's simple: you are lazy; you do not develop, do not think, but rush to take information from a robot and present it as your own.
The forum is a communication between people. Not machines, not robots, and other inanimate things.
If you stop thinking for yourself, one day someone else will turn you into a non-thinking crowd and will control you like a robot.

Although all answers, including mine, in this topic answer to the text generated by a robot.

This is more or less how it is now. There are some newbie accounts that have been banned because all they did was post trivial AI garbage, and all their posts were deleted as spam. If someone makes it clear that they are using AI, then I think its fine, although the way OP and ditec_wrogn did it is highly cringe.


The Dead Internet Theory doesn't really have anything to do with the internet "dying"; its just saying that most of the internet isn't used by humans, but bots. It may not be true now, but as time marches on it becomes more and more of a likely scenario. From the Wikipedia article:

Or we should perhaps turn the forum to an AI forum cause that sounds like something that would make you happy. Right?

Now what would be the need for this forum and all the interactions that are organically made here if we all be using AI to interact, we'll all be making fool of ourselves even if we won't want to agree that that's what we're doing. For instance: We may  now have mediocres as experts in the forum.

I think there's a succinct difference when in the way the interactions flows when the contents are not AI generated.  Moreover, no one is against you using AI tool for your personal guide outside this community, but just don't bring it into discussions in the forum because it's a brain-cheat that would with time if allowed, will kill and devalue critical thinking among forum members.

Your post was obviously enhanced with AI, though it was nicely done, so kudos to you for using AI in a way that it should be used.

When AI was first introduced, it was also introducing a shit load of spam. I think nowadays (due to massive improvement of LLMs), it's easy to differentiate GPT 3.5 from 4o, and easy to distinguish shit AI content from good AI content. I agree that an adjustment on rules could be made, and if so, reverting to how it is for normal posts is the way to go (if the post is garbage, people report it, the user gets a warning or a ban). People will eventually get the message that if they use AI, it better darn well be good and relevant or they'd risk being banned if it's not. I also believe a "demerit" system or something of the like could help the relaxing of "absolutely no AI" rules as well. It's a shame that has not been actually considered or thought out further by the community/staff.

While opinion is unpopular based on the other posts, I think it's a reasonable one.


This is a temporary phenomena. For as long as there are humans on the internet, the internet will never die. That's the flaw in the whole theory. It's up to us to shape it in a way where AI doesn't take the voice of the human, that's the only challenge (and it doesn't seem like AI has even 50% taken the voice of the human here, or anywhere else for that matter IMO).


You're always so savage. I love it  

As people on this forum are not known for their comprehension skills I will allow myself to bring your quote from the other thread:


Although don't be surprised if more people come here commenting as if the OP was written by a human.

I was investigating this twat's post history, and when I saw this thread I was really hopeful that it had no responses.

The march toward a 100% transition to the hivemind continues.

Over the winter break, I had the opportunity to hear about the "conspiracy" of the Dead Internet Theory for the first time. It is making more and more sense with each passing day.


Basically the theory claims that vast swaths of the internet are now just AI bots talking to and learning from each other. Do we really want Bitcointalk to become a part of this? The upside is... well there is no upside. Nobody's learning or experiencing anything, and why would a signature campaign hire you instead of a bot if all you're going to do is mimic a bot? The downside is the thorough annihilation of any semblance of a soul from the forum.

OP is likely the alt of a user that got caught using AI to generate shitposts for them, and I suspect they'll get bored and disappear within a week or two (similar to that ditec_wrogn guy).

You seem to be very comfortable here, literally replying to a shitpost generated by a computer.


And how do you feel doing just that here?

I mean - did you two - or most of the users in this thread for that matter - even read the OP or you're just replying to the title?

And if you did read, why don't you just go to Chat GPT if you want to talk to Chat GPT?

Rhetorical question, I know that Chat GPT wouldn't pay you for signatures so you'll wallow in that shit here instead.

I don’t know where you got the idea that the forum bans AI, because I haven’t read anything in the rules that strictly prohibits using AI.

AI is already here, and we can’t stop progress. But I do understand why some reputable members of the forum try to detect AI-generated posts as it’s not fair if people are just letting a bot do all the talking. However, if AI is used only for correcting spelling, grammar, or research, I think that’s totally acceptable.

Okay you want to use AI to write or make contributions in topics or discussions you know absolutely nothing about right? Fooling yourself that you have knowledge when you absolutely don't!

Perhaps you should also know that using Chatgpt in the right manner is not prohibited in the forum. Using Grammarly, Quilbots etc to make good post is highly recommended yet you do not acknowledge this part.

You're probably interested in some kind of posting with AI that profits you.

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Suggest AI shouldn't be ban or prohibited in the forum will only result to people lacking real knowledge but basically depending of the results of AIs to make speech which ends up being very incorrect or uninteresting.


What you think about this image?

In due time people will begin to focus on irrelevant things that doesn't contribute any knowledge to them living the works for AI and you OP is one of those that encourage it.

More disturbing to me is waking up to discover the forum flooded with conversations between different AI models interacting with each other, drowning out the possibility for humans to meaningfully communicate here at all.  You are right to want to be on a forum that is known for maintaining human conversation.  I think that is probably futile though.  Scary to think about, but until someone invents some sort of proof of life key that AI can't use, we are all destined to be flooded out of cyberspace by artificial intelligence.

How would you feel if you're in a room discussing with people, but instead of those people having that discussion with you, they're using robots to answer your questions and discuss with you?
This is a discussion forum and everything you're saying should be things coming from you directly. If you don't have what to you can simply read the discussion and pass. The same way it is if you're in a room with people having a discussion.
Nobody stops you from using AI for research and getting answers to your questions, but that should be your own research, not use it in a discussion.

Also, posting AI-generated posts is regarded as plagiarism because you're passing someone or something else's work as your own, that alone is a crime and is against the forum rules.
If you want to better your writing, there are writing tools like Grammarly that can help you write properly. It gives you the right punctuations, correct spellings, and the right adverbs and adjectives to use, and to the best of my knowledge, that is not illegal on the forum because all the thoughts are yours and the writing is yours. 

ChatGPT is soooo last month.   Deepseek is the key player in the market now, not because they have superior results (I don't care how much it cost to build or if they lied about it), but you can actually download the AI to your own system to modify it or build your own private dataset.   A key use for this will be the Bitcointalk Search Project, the goal being a more reliable GROK like system based on this forum, and not what people say about this forum, or it's members.

People are already running DS on a raspberry Pi - opening up AI training to the middle and lower class members of society.   All you need is the storage, which is cheaper every day, or even cloud storage if you have reliable internet access.    Use a cheap switch ($20) and you can link them together.   It will not be long before corporations such as banks start training data sets on your financial transactions, and it's legal under privacy regulations.  "Sorry sir, your loan has been declined because people with your spending habits in this market only have a 10% chance of repayment."

Unlike the OP, I do not use AI to write most of my words - I enjoy actually understanding what I am reading, and attempting to make other people understand my take on it.   Luckily, I never learned to type properly, so my "hunt and peck" method of typing works almost as fast with just one hand.  

Isn't any push to ban AI due to cheating on signature campaigns?


Just have the discussion with the robot directly, the people are irrelevant.

I dont agree that AI tools are helpful for forums.  They allow people to make shitty and spam posts or spread false information pretty easily.  When you say the AI helps put your ideas into words, I kinda wonder if those are really your original thoughts or if they just come from an AI? and  Im a bit skeptical about that.   

Overall Im not convinced these AI tools are necessarily good for communities and discussions.  Maybe they can help you out with grammar or something but they also make it too easy to game the system and manipulate conversations rather than have honest debates. 

The problem you are not addressing is your motivation for creating the thread. You have not admitted the fact is that your only motivation for wanting to use AI in the forum is related to meeting signature campaign quotas. If you do not want to use to AI to meet quotas in lieu for payment, what other motivation would you have?

• Your opinion is not bad, you could actually use your real account to express it.
• If you are observant, you will notice that theymos has not expressly made any rule against AI usage in the forum.
• I personally will not be comfortable if I wake up to discover that I am discussing with computers here instead of humans.
• In 10 years time, if there's a forum that will be known for maintaining human conversation, I will like it to be this forum.
• To be more clear, the forum is not against using AI. But then, if you want to use AI, you can indicate in the post that it was generated by AI, by so we could tell the difference.
• This is a unique forum, put your brain to use and don't rely on AI, else you will lose what made you a human.