You only hear of a fraction of mass shootings in the media. I guess they only bother if a number get killed.
But so far in 2015 there have been 353 mass shootings in the U.S. where four or more people have been shot. Not necessarily all killed. Shot, as in shooting. According to:
http://shootingtracker.com/wiki/Mass_Shootings_in_2015
Topic: Why aren´t U.S. mass shootings called for what they are - Terrorism - page 3. (Read 2244 times)
December 03, 2015, 05:15:31 AM
December 03, 2015, 04:23:43 AM
Here´s yet another one. These terror attacks aren´t quite daily yet but almost seem to be getting there.
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Authorities responding to reports of mass shooting in San Bernardino, Calif
At least one person opened fire at a social services facility in San Bernardino, California on Wednesday. Early reports said that 20 people may have been wounded, but as the situation developed it remained unclear how many exactly were hurt.
Reports first surfaced around 11:15 a.m. PT of an incident in the area, and the official San Bernardino Country Sheriff's Department Twitter account said an active shooter was in the area.
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Authorities responding to reports of mass shooting in San Bernardino, Calif
At least one person opened fire at a social services facility in San Bernardino, California on Wednesday. Early reports said that 20 people may have been wounded, but as the situation developed it remained unclear how many exactly were hurt.
Reports first surfaced around 11:15 a.m. PT of an incident in the area, and the official San Bernardino Country Sheriff's Department Twitter account said an active shooter was in the area.
Yes. It is kind of interesting.
With cops it is the other way around. You don't have one cop opening up on a bunch of people. Usually you have a bunch of cops opening up on one person. Most of the time that person is absolutely harmless.
This brings us to the topic of, Are terrorists cowards?
Well, they usually end up dead so they´re probably not cowards per se. They don´t attack defenseless people out of cowardice. They are creating terror, terrorizing the public and probably interested in maximum effect. So they go for easy and soft targets. They´re not going to seek out armed opposition. If you´ve spent a lot of time listening to retarded presstitutes cover this you probably need some time for the above points to sink in.
December 03, 2015, 04:07:38 AM
Here´s yet another one. These terror attacks aren´t quite daily yet but almost seem to be getting there.
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Authorities responding to reports of mass shooting in San Bernardino, Calif
At least one person opened fire at a social services facility in San Bernardino, California on Wednesday. Early reports said that 20 people may have been wounded, but as the situation developed it remained unclear how many exactly were hurt.
Reports first surfaced around 11:15 a.m. PT of an incident in the area, and the official San Bernardino Country Sheriff's Department Twitter account said an active shooter was in the area.
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Authorities responding to reports of mass shooting in San Bernardino, Calif
At least one person opened fire at a social services facility in San Bernardino, California on Wednesday. Early reports said that 20 people may have been wounded, but as the situation developed it remained unclear how many exactly were hurt.
Reports first surfaced around 11:15 a.m. PT of an incident in the area, and the official San Bernardino Country Sheriff's Department Twitter account said an active shooter was in the area.
Yes. It is kind of interesting.
With cops it is the other way around. You don't have one cop opening up on a bunch of people. Usually you have a bunch of cops opening up on one person. Most of the time that person is absolutely harmless.
This brings us to the topic of, Are terrorists cowards?
December 03, 2015, 02:41:33 AM
Yes, I forgot; obviously you have signage and advertising. That´s marketing.
When the public complains about the apparent opposite effect of all these efforts by government to save people from themselves the excuse is always incompetence. This Joe Sixpack can understand, there´s no shortage of human errors and incompetence in his environment. He can identify with that no problem. But what he misses is that unlike in his reality, government incompetents aren´t fired, they are promoted or kicked upstairs. They´re given more money to continue being incompetent ie. implement the successful policy. Sometimes this shit is so blatant that after a gigantic intelligence system that knows when a fly farts in Farawayistan somehow manages to sleep through countless warnings and terrorists learning to fly planes under their noses - it´s incompetence.The system is blinking red for months and they sleep on and it´s incompetence. Solution: bigger system and more money. Promotions all around.
When the public complains about the apparent opposite effect of all these efforts by government to save people from themselves the excuse is always incompetence. This Joe Sixpack can understand, there´s no shortage of human errors and incompetence in his environment. He can identify with that no problem. But what he misses is that unlike in his reality, government incompetents aren´t fired, they are promoted or kicked upstairs. They´re given more money to continue being incompetent ie. implement the successful policy. Sometimes this shit is so blatant that after a gigantic intelligence system that knows when a fly farts in Farawayistan somehow manages to sleep through countless warnings and terrorists learning to fly planes under their noses - it´s incompetence.The system is blinking red for months and they sleep on and it´s incompetence. Solution: bigger system and more money. Promotions all around.
December 03, 2015, 01:57:28 AM
Well, the way i see it when you have an environment plagued with terrorism like the U.S. and are interested in getting even more terrorism the best way is to provide what terrorists like best: soft and easy targets where they can operate as long as possible without opposition. Firearms are so prevalent in the U.S that in order to help terrorism grow you´ll probably be forced to decree choice terrorist targets like schools, institutions for the invalid, malls etc totally gun free. If I´m not mistaken there has been active policy regarding this in place for quite a while.
Active policy at the federal level to create "Gun Free Zones" and then place signage there indicating such. Schools. But other places are free to place their own signs out. State laws are clear about this - the individual has a right to Open carry/concealed carry in accordance with the laws - but a business owner has rights too, and one of his rights is to put up the "No guns allowed" sign. Then there are other laws which trump those such as no guns in bars (we learned back in the 1880s that guns in bars didn't work out too well....) December 03, 2015, 01:17:24 AM
Well, the way i see it when you have an environment plagued with terrorism like the U.S. and are interested in getting even more terrorism the best way is to provide what terrorists like best: soft and easy targets where they can operate as long as possible without opposition. Firearms are so prevalent in the U.S that in order to help terrorism grow you´ll probably be forced to decree choice terrorist targets like schools, institutions for the invalid, malls etc totally gun free. If I´m not mistaken there has been active policy regarding this in place for quite a while.
December 03, 2015, 12:58:58 AM
I don't know if he´s invoking fear to get rid of guns. If he is and it´s policy it has clearly had the opposite effect. I think gun sales spike after every terrorist attack. Which is a natural reaction from the population. They keep getting repeated confirmation about the obvious: the government can´t keep the peace so they have to be prepared to do the peacekeeping themselves.
So now it's at least one "Devout Muslim" shooter, rest to come out in the next couple days. People are going to get more and more fed up with this. Frankly I don't even want to hear any more of the misinformation arguments "They not Muslims Muslim is peace" crap.
Right, where this leads is people arming themselves, then the police focus on the easy targets, put the middle class lawbreakers in jail. Anyway they can pay bond, pay lawyers, pay the system, and get out with a couple years or probation. The system feeds on them. The actual bad guys, they don't pay. Same dynamics as crime ridden Chicago, nationwide. At least where firearms are illegal.
Where I live we don't have that problem...many others, sure.
A curious thing - you'd think that the fact that CA already banned all this stuff would be prima facia evidence that banning guns did not work, duh...
December 03, 2015, 12:32:20 AM
If you´re not with us, you´re with the terrorists. And we define who´s a terrorist. If you don´t play ball with us you may be designated a terrorist. And if you resist our occupation of your country you are a terrorist and will be dealt with accordingly. International law, Geneva convention, War crimes? Forget it, you´re a terrorist.
December 03, 2015, 12:24:20 AM
Here it is for anyone interested: If a Tree Falls: A Story of the Earth Liberation Front. Eco-terrorism is the only other use of the word or concept I can think of besides the usual ISIS/AL QADEA reports.
December 03, 2015, 12:19:32 AM
Of course they have a political agenda, not all mass shooters but plenty of them, like the guy who did the black church shootings. They are mostly lone wolves so not sure if they qualify as terrorist. The definition is rather vague and if course the media is guilty. Terrorist is almost a synonym of arab fanatics to the western world while it's very clear that it's a label that can be applied to many other cases.
What I remember is watching a documentary about the trial of some ecologists that attempted to shutdown a company and were getting terrorist charges, life in prison and death penalty just for some property damage. It was in Oregon I think, I don't remember the name, sorry.
What I remember is watching a documentary about the trial of some ecologists that attempted to shutdown a company and were getting terrorist charges, life in prison and death penalty just for some property damage. It was in Oregon I think, I don't remember the name, sorry.
December 02, 2015, 11:56:25 PM
Solution: Stop voting freakin homicidal maniacs whose solutions are always kill kill kill, into office. Once they´re in others of the same ilk will be attracted to them like shitflies to cow dung. And once they´re entrenched it isn´t so easy to get rid of them even if some slightly less homicidal maniac gets into office. Obama is stuck with much of the crap that brought you all the war scams and violence of the Bush years. And some of the worst of that dates farther back to other nutcases. If you want to get rid of cockroaches you definitely don´t help them procreate, that´s for sure.
December 02, 2015, 11:42:15 PM
Well, I think the police are way overbashed. There are scumbags there for sure but still this force manages to kill "only" about 1000 per year or so. It doesn´t seem much in a country of over 300 million where much of the population and their dog are armed to the teeth and certainly criminals come well equipped. There are scandalous incidents and extra judicial executions but what do people expect? A fish rots from the head. The nutsos in charge of the country kill people without due process of justice here and there around the world and probably at home as well. So that sends a message to the population, cops included. That´s what leaders do, they lead by example.
December 02, 2015, 11:04:53 PM
Are we trying to label them terrorism because our president is terrorizing the civilians to invoke fear to get rid of guns?
Ever Wonder Why the Most Mass Shootings Ever Have Happened Under Obama?
Ever Wonder Why the Most Mass Shootings Ever Have Happened Under Obama?
obama has no chance on his gun crap. Under his presidency - there has never been a stronger shift to gun rights in the last 30 years.
check at how the poll numbers have shifted.
let him moan and groan, he will be gone in 12 months.
And then, they will probably put in Hillary who wants us to be like Australia and turn all our guns in. They are having gun drives galore these days to get people to turn them in willingly.
I don't know if he´s invoking fear to get rid of guns. If he is and it´s policy it has clearly had the opposite effect. I think gun sales spike after every terrorist attack. Which is a natural reaction from the population. They keep getting repeated confirmation about the obvious: the government can´t keep the peace so they have to be prepared to do the peacekeeping themselves.
They are certainly causing a great divide in this nation, those who are now stocking up on guns, and those who are swayed by the media crying "take 'em all." I honestly believe there are more on the side of being duped than there are stockpiling their guns. I don't think this is an even fight...no matter how good the numbers look of those buying more and more, there are far too many people out there becoming afraid and wanting the guns to be taken away, and only available to police.
It's funny how people are so anti-police right now, but they want them in charge and the only ones with guns, lol.
December 02, 2015, 10:59:30 PM
I don't know if he´s invoking fear to get rid of guns. If he is and it´s policy it has clearly had the opposite effect. I think gun sales spike after every terrorist attack. Which is a natural reaction from the population. They keep getting repeated confirmation about the obvious: the government can´t keep the peace so they have to be prepared to do the peacekeeping themselves.
December 02, 2015, 10:56:09 PM
Are we trying to label them terrorism because our president is terrorizing the civilians to invoke fear to get rid of guns?
Ever Wonder Why the Most Mass Shootings Ever Have Happened Under Obama?
Ever Wonder Why the Most Mass Shootings Ever Have Happened Under Obama?
obama has no chance on his gun crap. Under his presidency - there has never been a stronger shift to gun rights in the last 30 years.
check at how the poll numbers have shifted.
let him moan and groan, he will be gone in 12 months.
December 02, 2015, 10:53:41 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/12/20151202_SB2.jpg
media is now trying to portray this as a workplace dispute. 1 person going postal, normal, but 3?
calling BS right now.
media is now trying to portray this as a workplace dispute. 1 person going postal, normal, but 3?
calling BS right now.
December 02, 2015, 10:51:07 PM
Are we trying to label them terrorism because our president is terrorizing the civilians to invoke fear to get rid of guns?
Ever Wonder Why the Most Mass Shootings Ever Have Happened Under Obama?
Ever Wonder Why the Most Mass Shootings Ever Have Happened Under Obama?
December 02, 2015, 10:49:25 PM
as to why people in California have shitty gun laws, it is actually pretty easy. Most People in NY and in California think they know better than everyone else. Better than other NYers and Californians too, I have lived in both places.
So when you think everyone around you is an idiot, you basically don't want other people to have any rights, definitely not any guns, because they are all idiots and you know better than them, and they are all just irritating people.
That is pretty much the typical mindset of the average NYer and Cali person.
So when you think everyone around you is an idiot, you basically don't want other people to have any rights, definitely not any guns, because they are all idiots and you know better than them, and they are all just irritating people.
That is pretty much the typical mindset of the average NYer and Cali person.
December 02, 2015, 10:45:20 PM
one of the shooters confirmed as "Farooq Saeed" apparently.
doesn't sound like the typical white anti abortion nutcase.
doesn't sound like the typical white anti abortion nutcase.
December 02, 2015, 10:24:54 PM
California is very restrictive on gun laws, ridiculously so. But the people there are far from stupid....
That's kind of an oxymoron, isn't it?
No, because there is incredible diversity in people and culture in California. Liberal sleezeballs may hold San Francisco and Los Angeles, but there are more handguns and rifles hidden or buried out there in CA than could be counted on the fingers and toes of a million Hezbolah.
Watch now how the local sheriffs who have the right to allow or deny concealed carry permits react.
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