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legendary
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We definitely need more jobs to offer to pay or partially pay in bitcoin. I know personally I
would get 10% of my pay in btc if it was offered
https://www.coinbase.com/careers
https://bitpay.com/about/team
https://ripple.com/company/careers/

i just searched 3 of the main bitcoin related companies. and guess what, their hiring
legendary
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How is my method pump and dump when I addressed long term goals specifically.

The enviroment creates the organism, the organism adapts to the enviroment - Reality 101

If bitcoin is promoted well enough for people to get interested in it, then goods & services will quickly adapt to it for it to be useful.


you anaology is not how your OP (the PR centric) plan shows..

you say the environment creates an orgasm..
but your plan is not to create any thing.. all you want to do is advertise that the organism should multiply..

thats no way to ensure organisms survival, thats no way to even ensure constant and growing multiplication of organisms..

you are not addressing bitcoin as a functional and useful currency/tool.. you real obsessed purely in grabbing noobs..

so tell me what advantages are you going to spout out what promises are you going to give for these noobs..
you seem soo obsessed about PR yet you have not really told anyone the 'sale pitch' noobs will see that will solve everything.

so again.. its far easier to solve the problems. then the sales pitch would hold more weight and require less of a push
sr. member
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★Bitvest.io★ Play Plinko or Invest!
We definitely need more jobs to offer to pay or partially pay in bitcoin. I know personally I
would get 10% of my pay in btc if it was offered
hero member
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Merit: 1009
JAYCE DESIGNS - http://bit.ly/1tmgIwK
your wisdom's just seem to be about getting noobs to buy in, and then find that they cant really spend it..
your wisdom's seem predominantly centered around pump and dump methodology rather than growing bitcoin infrastructure/economy.

until your wisdoms expand beyond your mindset of pump and dumping coin prices. there will always be backlash that will tarnish any positive PR.

so as i tried to point out before.. start on the bitcoin business, so people can sell products like toilet roll baked beans, coffee sandwiches and staff can earn a bitcoin wage. which will then get people to actually find that they dont need to convert to fiat to buy toilet paper..
then noobs will see bitcoin as something useful..

then your PR attempts wont be as hard.

doing it the other way (your OP way).. is an endless cycle of people buying in, getting confused/lost and then running out.. over and over again..

How is my method pump and dump when I addressed long term goals specifically.

The enviroment creates the organism, the organism adapts to the enviroment - Reality 101

If bitcoin is promoted well enough for people to get interested in it, then goods & services will quickly adapt to it for it to be useful.



How long did it take for banks to get into bitcoin? 5 years.

How long did it take for banks to use the internet? 15 years.

How long did it take for banks to use electronics? 30 years.

The future is acceleration and adaptation is key for survival and they know it!
legendary
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Has anyone got any extra inspiration from my wisdoms?

your wisdom's just seem to be about getting noobs to buy in, and then find that they cant really spend it..
your wisdom's seem predominantly centered around pump and dump methodology rather than growing bitcoin infrastructure/economy.

until your wisdoms expand beyond your mindset of pump and dumping coin prices. there will always be backlash that will tarnish any positive PR.

so as i tried to point out before.. start on the bitcoin business, so people can sell products like toilet roll baked beans, coffee sandwiches and staff can earn a bitcoin wage. which will then get people to actually find that they dont need to convert to fiat to buy toilet paper..
then noobs will see bitcoin as something useful..

then your PR attempts wont be as hard.

doing it the other way (your OP way).. is an endless cycle of people buying in, getting confused/lost and then running out.. over and over again..
legendary
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Never selling
Just my 2 cents. But, for bitcoin to go mainstream quickly (I think that in the long-term we will get there anyway), something has to appear (service/product) that you can only do with bitcoin, that is so awesome that it is potentially addictive.

Think of things such as facebook. Can't do that shit without a digital network, and appears to be pretty addictive for a lot of people.

If you have that, politics, PR, difficulty of obtaining bitcoin, none of that matters. People will find a way to satisfy their needs.

Fucked if I know what it could be, and I don't think it matters anyway. Long-term bitcoin will get there.
hero member
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JAYCE DESIGNS - http://bit.ly/1tmgIwK
Has anyone got any extra inspiration from my wisdoms?
newbie
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I basically agree with most of what you saying, but point number 10 in my opinion, might be a bit strong. You have put a lot of time and effort into your post and we do appreciate

that, but the gender thing, is a bit over the top. I have posted many arguments and proof that women are using Bitcoin in other threads about that topic on the forum.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1163902.60

Point number 3   - INCOME: Lack of earning bitcoin methods & bitcoin jobs carry my biggest support, and should shift to the number 1 position. We need more income sources for

people to earn Bitcoin online. Every second newbie on this forum, ask that question, when they join... "Where can I earn Bitcoin?"

Well done... Good post.  Grin
very good
legendary
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Real Bitcoin.
here is the order in which things should happen if you want longterm success.

3﴿ INCOME:bitcoin jobs
4﴿ EDUCATION: good guide to newbies
5﴿ DATABASE:a bitcoin search engine
6﴿ GLOBAL ECONOMY: Global financial problems could boost bitcoin's growth
2﴿ PUBLIC OPINION:PR teams to improve bitcoin's public opinion
1﴿ MARKETING:organized promotion campaigns
7﴿ SOCIAL ASPECT:a more integrated & united community
8﴿ LEADERSHIP:social Idols promoting/endorsing/using their influence to help bitcoin
9﴿ CAPITAL EXPANSION: a stable lending system
10﴿ GENDER RELATIONS:women interested in Bitcoin

if anyone believes the order is incorrect and that an increase of users should come before usefulness/understanding.. then i guess your end goal is just a price speculated spike and not a bitcoin economic and infrastructural growth.

points (2) and (1) should not be community funded. but bitcoin business funded.

Nice way to put it, but I think Marketing and PO are the most important, because that is how you introduce people to BTC.

If there is a non-bitcoin person out there and you introduce him to BTC, but he heard about all crazy crap going on around bitcoin, he will be scared to join.

So, a positive PR is definitely needed. Some positive events that could show the world that bitcoin is GOOD (or atleast neutral, judge the wielder not the sword)
skipping to mass marketing/PR and shouting that bitcoin is a new utopian world, but not having any means for people to get onboard, is a futile effort.
so before even telling the world to get on board. we need to build the training facilities. we need to build the easy access ships.

that involves compiling all the learning material first. linking businesses who can offer people jobs. linking businesses who offer products and services to spend.

then... and only then would it be ready for mass adoption..

after all there is no point spending $30million on tv/youtube advertising.. if when people say yea bitcoin is great.. they then get lost, not finding the right information. not knowing if they should trust which exchange. not even finding an exchange to get their currency.. or not even finding a job that pays in bitcoins or not finding somewhere locally to buy toilet paper with it.

to be honest. racing to drag noobs into bitcoin right now sounds more like a pump&dump social experiment.. bitcoin needs to evolve a little more in regards to noob usefulness and noob training. before we invite said noobs.

thats all im saying
hero member
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JAYCE DESIGNS - http://bit.ly/1tmgIwK
I just found Lighthouse:

https://www.vinumeris.com/lighthouse


Pretty good and useful bitcoin app, especially for charities, but for other crowdfunding too. I just installed it, and will be using it frequently to donate to things I see helpful.

Way to go, bitcoin is really breaking the path here on the crowdfunding front.
newbie
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Just give it time I say. All things mature with age. Bitcoin is like fine french wine. Sour at first but eventually will get better as time goes on.
hero member
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JAYCE DESIGNS - http://bit.ly/1tmgIwK
Real Bitcoin.
here is the order in which things should happen if you want longterm success.

3﴿ INCOME:bitcoin jobs
4﴿ EDUCATION: good guide to newbies
5﴿ DATABASE:a bitcoin search engine
6﴿ GLOBAL ECONOMY: Global financial problems could boost bitcoin's growth
2﴿ PUBLIC OPINION:PR teams to improve bitcoin's public opinion
1﴿ MARKETING:organized promotion campaigns
7﴿ SOCIAL ASPECT:a more integrated & united community
8﴿ LEADERSHIP:social Idols promoting/endorsing/using their influence to help bitcoin
9﴿ CAPITAL EXPANSION: a stable lending system
10﴿ GENDER RELATIONS:women interested in Bitcoin

if anyone believes the order is incorrect and that an increase of users should come before usefulness/understanding.. then i guess your end goal is just a price speculated spike and not a bitcoin economic and infrastructural growth.

points (2) and (1) should not be community funded. but bitcoin business funded.

Nice way to put it, but I think Marketing and PO are the most important, because that is how you introduce people to BTC.

If there is a non-bitcoin person out there and you introduce him to BTC, but he heard about all crazy crap going on around bitcoin, he will be scared to join.

So, a positive PR is definitely needed. Some positive events that could show the world that bitcoin is GOOD (or atleast neutral, judge the wielder not the sword)
member
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You make some very good points here sir. I only have a problem with one of them; The social aspect. Isn't Bitcoin talk a united community? Other than that, all your points are very valid. You seem like a very intellectual person that can help out the Bitcoin community.

Yes I agree with you, bitcoin talk is a united community. I really believe bitcoin brings users together in a community environment.
legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4766
Real Bitcoin.
here is the order in which things should happen if you want longterm success.

3﴿ INCOME:bitcoin jobs
4﴿ EDUCATION: good guide to newbies
5﴿ DATABASE:a bitcoin search engine
6﴿ GLOBAL ECONOMY: Global financial problems could boost bitcoin's growth
2﴿ PUBLIC OPINION:PR teams to improve bitcoin's public opinion
1﴿ MARKETING:organized promotion campaigns
7﴿ SOCIAL ASPECT:a more integrated & united community
8﴿ LEADERSHIP:social Idols promoting/endorsing/using their influence to help bitcoin
9﴿ CAPITAL EXPANSION: a stable lending system
10﴿ GENDER RELATIONS:women interested in Bitcoin

if anyone believes the order is incorrect and that an increase of users should come before usefulness/understanding.. then i guess your end goal is just a price speculated spike and not a bitcoin economic and infrastructural growth.

points (2) and (1) should not be community funded. but bitcoin business funded.
hero member
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Merit: 1009
JAYCE DESIGNS - http://bit.ly/1tmgIwK
I don't want to break this down anymore, my advice to you is to stick around and learn more about bitcoin
So you are saying you wouldn't fuck him?  Aren't you attracted to him?  He definitely knows what attracts a human female woman.  After all, he is an intellectual. 

Oh right, I get it: you like dumb guys.  Too many human females are this way.  I sympathize with the lad.

Sorry pal ,I really have to censor you now, you are getting really on my nerves. You have disrupted the conversation far too long, and only showed your childish nature.

Go troll elsewhere please.
hero member
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JAYCE DESIGNS - http://bit.ly/1tmgIwK
"I still dont understand what the problem is with 10?

Was my wording too harsh? I dont want to offend any groups here, I`m just speaking the truth."


Okay, you have softened me. Any hard edge you may have detected in my former comments is gone :-)
If it hadn't been for reading so many of these comments on this forum before, it would be hard to believe that you have made this statement in earnest but it appears that you have.

It isn't harsh nor offensive nor is it "the truth". It may be your opinion/experience.
Anthropologists typically categorize us females as "the gatherers" but beyond that,

understand that this statement speaks more to your character than a characterization of all womankind
and when you figure out why...
your life will probably be much more pleasant.

I don't want to break this down anymore, my advice to you is to stick around and learn more about bitcoin because as to #4
Information is plentiful...

Here, books, Youtube, articles, Satoshi's paper can be downloaded and yes: Google it.


Well then you misunderstood my point.

Historically, women were the ones raising the babies and males were the ones working and sustaining the families.
Of course that has changed, women now work too, and that is good if they choose so.

So even though women are more financially free in the past 100 years than they ever been, genetics hardly change in that short amount of time.

Thus some characteristics of this genetical behaviour still applies.


The same way men were the ones hunting down the animals and bringing food to their tribes. Men dont really need to go hunting anymore, at least not in the wilderness.


So even though society drastically changed in the past 1000 years, there are still behaviours that are intrinsic to both genders that still persist.




So because of these differences, every gender, or in fact every group of people really, wants something else out of bitcoin.

X person from Y group wants bitcoin for Z reason, and those 3 variables change for each individual.


For bitcoin to be really successful it has to appeal to all groups, genders, religions, etc...
legendary
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I don't want to break this down anymore, my advice to you is to stick around and learn more about bitcoin
So you are saying you wouldn't fuck him?  Aren't you attracted to him?  He definitely knows what attracts a human female woman.  After all, he is an intellectual.  

Oh right, I get it: you like dumb guys.  Too many human females are this way.  I sympathize with the lad.
hero member
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Merit: 661
Do due diligence
"I still dont understand what the problem is with 10?

Was my wording too harsh? I dont want to offend any groups here, I`m just speaking the truth."


Okay, you have softened me. Any hard edge you may have detected in my former comments is gone :-)
If it hadn't been for reading so many of these comments on this forum before, it would be hard to believe that you have made this statement in earnest but it appears that you have.

It isn't harsh nor offensive nor is it "the truth". It may be your opinion/experience.
Anthropologists typically categorize us females as "the gatherers" but beyond that,

understand that this statement speaks more to your character than a characterization of all womankind
and when you figure out why...
your life will probably be much more pleasant.

I don't want to break this down anymore, my advice to you is to stick around and learn more about bitcoin because as to #4
Information is plentiful...

Here, books, Youtube, articles, Satoshi's paper can be downloaded and yes: Google it.
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 1009
JAYCE DESIGNS - http://bit.ly/1tmgIwK
A true and accurate characterization of the human female woman - by a renowned Bitcoin intellectual:

...attracted to: Wealthy guys, Fashion , Beauty, Chit-chat gossip, Parenting,..."

Notice the peculiar omission of: 'cryptography nerd with too many zits'. 

So you deny that women are attracted to: Wealthy guys, Fashion , Beauty, Chit-chat gossip, Parenting,...?

#7
http://www.seansoutpost.com/

Feel free to donate to them generously (they've been around for awhile)
Yes that is nice, this website needs more attention.

We need charities that work only on bitcoin, because we can then emphasize to the world that bitcoin can be used for good too, despite the many evil things happening around it.

Never mind #10 ?
It is practically it's own answer.

I still dont understand what the problem is with 10?

Was my wording too harsh? I dont want to offend any groups here, I`m just speaking the truth.
hero member
Activity: 912
Merit: 661
Do due diligence
#7
http://www.seansoutpost.com/

Feel free to donate to them generously (they've been around for awhile)

Never mind #10 ?
It is practically it's own answer.
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