Topic: Why Bitcoin so popular in Discussions about government taking over the economy? - page 3. (Read 6288 times)

Or maybe, "Myrkul: Champion of shouting "NUH-UH!" as long as possible after he has lost an argument on the merits."

Take you that long to come up with that, did it?

You idea has no merits, if you succeeded, you would either drive everyone out of your country, or out of Bitcoin. Either way, fail.

or maybe, "Myrkul's Handbook: How to make false accusations when you have lost an argument on the merits."

Maybe the thread title should be "Why Rarity so fond of warping the ideals of Bitcoin every time they get high?"

My Little Pony is controlled by a central authority at the wonderful Hub Network.  Feel free to lobby them for any changes you desire.  I however, am not lobbying for radical changes to Bitcoin, or any changes at all to the technical workings.  It is a natural evolution to a greater degree of civilization and government control. 

Give me a link to the thread once you change your mind... sounds like some fun hardcore trolling.

In my experience, russians love trying out new things and are very cool people. N=3

This.

...though that would be a great show. Especially if the sharks visited Equestria first.

another point: Takeover bitcoin...what about litecoin?

they'd first need control over the internet

SOPA PIPA
CISPA
ACTA
CSA
et cetera

they definately only count to 3 at max. Look at the TSA workers that steal from luggage or take naked scan images of celebrities home as souvenirs

Rarity, you are indeed a rarity on these forums.

Why on earth would you ever want government controlling economic transactions like that other than for enslaving and monitoring the populous?

How does your idea prevent black markets? They'll just use BlackCoin instead of your WhiteWashedBitcoin.

Forcibly drug testing hundreds if not thousands of people because one of their associates is caught with drugs is a "great step forward"? Analyzing every financial transaction in the country isn't evil? The fact that you point to Singapore as your success story is all I need to know about you.

If you want to get organized crime out of the black market, the way to do it is not to crush your populace under an iron boot, but to remove the source of income from the black market. Move it into the white.

If you would like an example, I suggest you start reading here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition#Prohibition_in_the_United_States

When you're done with that, TIME has an article for you: http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.html

This plan would be a huge boost for the economy of any country that implemented it and would help to wipe out drug abuse and organized crime which have been responsible for countless deaths and represent an ongoing tragic violation of human rights and human dignity.  Implementing this plan wouldn't be evil, it would be one of the greatest steps forward in the history of human civilization.

You know what? You wanna advocate evil, go for it. I'm done playing along. Your plan is stupid, not least because if you managed it, everyone would drop Bitcoin like a hot rock. To say nothing of the waste and expense of the actual implementation. 

What I am telling you is it doesn't matter.  Big or small, when the government sees every transaction they will be able to untangle your operation.


By far the most commonly used dangerous illegal drug is marijuana, it is also the easiest to test for and the most profitable to criminal cartels.  Drugs such as cocaine and heroin and meth are addictive enough that the customers tend to be daily users and will only be evading the test if you warn them of it ahead of time (which you aren't doing), and even then they might not be able to manage.  


Again, you are not the first drug abuser who has tried to figure this kind of thing out.  Code words, trusted people, whatever.  It's not sustainable, you get busted.  

Oops, you messed up just one time and gave someone the wrong bag.  Busted.

http://articles.cnn.com/2002-10-10/justice/ctv.scm_1_bank-robber-marijuana-hotel-pool?_s=PM:LAW



If there is any significant non-drug using customer base, the owner is a weapons grade idiot for not just catering to them instead of risking his business to sell illegal drugs when all a bust takes is one simple mistake, one careless employee, one person randomly getting pulled over when a cop saw them leave your store and getting caught with the drugs, and a billion other things that can go wrong even before you bring to the table the fact that all your transactions are being watched.


It works when done right, even in countries without Regulated Bitcoin Economies.   Look at Singapore where drug use is very low and harsh laws are enforced.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jun/05/singapore-policy-drugs-bay

I did not "insist" on small amounts, I pointed out that if you based your search on large payments, you'd miss the small purchases. You would indeed need to perform UA's on all the customers of dealer to catch all of his customers, and I'd point out that there are drugs which do not show up in UAs, or which are processed through the body and out again long before any such test can be performed.

And yes, selling drugs out of a drive-through window is probably a bad idea. But that doesn't mean that trusted customers to a bodega-type store can't be sold the tea they keep behind the counter.

Doing a UA on the entire customer base of such a store would:

1) be costly
2) be openly oppressive
3) miss some, or even most of the customers because they took drugs that the test can't find.

Prohibition doesn't work, even if you have the perfect snitch of the blockchain.

once again:

The information doesn't need to be in the blockchain.  You would have more than enough evidence for probable cause to simply request a urine test from the customers of a store that was, openly and frequently (because you insist on small amounts it happens all the time) selling drugs.  

I know your mind is currently too addled to understand this, but people have already tried schemes like this before.  It tends to end in a fast bust because it's idiotic.  When you sell out in the open in small quantities with legitimate customers also present all you are doing is making it easier to get caught, one of those customers could be a cop for all you know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAUEqslnTSY

Where in the blockchain is the info about what the transaction is for? All you see is addresses and amounts. And if you think large transactions can be filtered, I'd point out that small amounts of drugs can be quite cheap.

I'd direct you to Silk Road to verify for yourself how inexpensive small amounts are, but I suspect you already know better than I the current prices on SR.

It does seem to me to be a sign of intoxication to think that a typo is a sign of intoxication.  It is yet another sign of the clouded thinking that has typified your contributions to this conversation.  Lashing out at my typing skills is not going to distract from the subject at hand.  

The family television program "My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic" promotes a healthy, well balanced lifestyle in which recreational drugs play no role.  I think you will find that with good support from your friends this lifestyle is also possible for you.  Please look into the organization I posted about earlier.  


All of the $60 cracker sales, sure.

Says the guy with a rainbow pony as their avatar and who can't correctly spell "you".

Right. I'm the intoxicated one.


So, every transaction that merchant ever made is automatically a drug sale? Again, how are you going to tell the legit transactions from the padded ones?