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The genie is out of the bottle and I for one am more optimistic about our future than I ever have been.

Agree. When I first read about bitcoin I was like, "holy crap, this is a great idea." Been hooked ever since.
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OP. I see what you see. And I am truly hopeful for the very first time.
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What I said is that atheists cannot account for objective morality.

Neither can Christians. there are many laws in the Bible that we know are morally wrong. I.e. laws on how to treat slaves, how women should behave, againt homosexuality, etc. The are relative to the culture in which they were written and nobody, including most Christians, follows them now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxdgCxK4VUA
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I have an idea how you can know morality! Consider raping a child. If it makes you feel sick to your stomach, congrats you have morality. If it does not, then youre one of a very small percent of people who cannot feel empathy for others...
...its really very simple. We know by instinct if something is wrong.

I agree that morality is known and we have common feelings about such things, as you mentioned, with rape. What I said is that atheists cannot account for objective morality. Objective morals are those that are based outside of yourself.  An atheistic worldview can only offer a subjective moral standard based on feelings, situation, experiences, culture, etc. Subjective morals change and can become self-contradictory.

Example: If Hitler had won the war, and he brainwashed the whole world to agree that gassing the Jews was morally good, wouldn't gassing Jews still be morally evil? The answer is obvious. Yes, gassing Jews would still be morally evil, even if the whole world agreed it wasn't. This contradicts and refutes moral subjectivism.
In atheism, morality is up for grabs. If society changes by, say, a nuclear meltdown... and the norm becomes robbery, is it then right if you are robbed of your food for you and your family? Even though the majority of society may rob for food, and may agree that the new right thing to do is "survival of the fittest to repopulate the earth with a strong people"... it is still wrong. It is wrong due to a moral standard outside of yourself.

Think about it. With atheism, there is no moral should and shouldn't. Why? Because when you remove God, you remove the standard by which objective morals truth is established. It is always wrong to rob a starving family of their food, even if your own family is starving. Even if society, your feelings, situation and experience say otherwise.

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I fear for you, because in a true free market there will be very little incentive to do business with you. Unlike the current system, where priests run rampant and are given positions of power in the community.

Guess I'm not following you here.
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I have an idea how you can know morality! Consider raping a child. If it makes you feel sick to your stomach, congrats you have morality. If it does not, then youre one of a very small percent of people who cannot feel empathy for others. I fear for you, because in a true free market there will be very little incentive to do business with you. Unlike the current system, where priests run rampant and are given positions of power in the community.

Seriously, its really very simple. We know by instinct if something is wrong, and to what degree. Dawkins probably doesn't understand this because he is quite possibly a deviant who enjoys raping children, so can't fathom what decent morals are.
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The universe has net zero energy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo

Just because a room containing a black hole, dark-matter and a sun have "net zero" energy, doesn't mean that room or its contents don't exist. It is still a room with a black hole, dark-matter and a sun (something). My bank account and check ledger may have a "net zero" balance by the end of the month, but this just means my debt canceled my income. Net zero is just a balance (theory). But energy and matter still exist, and so does money, and so does debt.

Dawkin's theories are very entertaining. You know he now claims that evil does not exist, since atheists cannot account for objective morality (without a moral law giver).
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My guess is only something that could break the law of conservation of energy could have brought our universe into existance.

The universe has net zero energy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo
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Harry Potter is bigger than the Bible. Just saying.
And I think the 6th book was longer too.

And it's sold more copies worldwide.

Sell everything, invest in white messenger owls and magic wands.
No it hasn't.

Total Harry Potter book sales:  325 million  (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081030085932AAYUTSq)
Total Bible sales:  5-6 BILLION (http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/arts/literature/21-best-selling-books-of-all-time.htm)
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Oh I see, you're laboring under the illusion that separateness exists (outside of conceptual metaphor) and that in reality, the universe is not a unified field.   Roll Eyes

Good luck with that superstitious misapplication of pagan/Manichean spiritual concepts to real world. 

I for one, wouldn't fly in any airplanes built using "Biblically correct engineering" or live near a nuke plant designed using "Christian quantum physics."   Shocked

Godless empiricism for me, thanks.

No, logical tells me that nothing can only create nothing. We now know that the universe is not eternally old. If it exists, it wasn't created by nothingness. My guess is only something that could break the law of conservation of energy could have brought our universe into existance. That eliminates the big bang and brings about serious flaws with your unified field theory.

Though I'm hoping this wouldn't turn into some religious/atheism debate, you do realize that the atheistic worldview is riddled with physiological issues, logical fallacies and inconsistencies. So I wouldn't start such a fight when standing on such weak ground myself.
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
So if Bitcoin beats the bible I think the ranking would be something like this.

1. Music
2. Spork
3. L shapped tetris piece
4. Bitcoin
5. Bible
6. Fork
7. Onion rings
8. Movies
9. Spoon
10. Virtual Boy

Right?

No, no.

Sliced bread always takes #1 spot.

What did people say was the greatest invention since sliced bread before sliced bread was invented? No Google Cheating. http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=%22greatest+invention+since+the+alphabet%22#q=%22greatest+invention+since%22&hl=en&authuser=0&tbm=bks&source=lnt&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:1800,cd_max:1899&sa=X&ei=tU8JToj3BIXFsQKAy8zXAQ&ved=0CBsQpwUoAw&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=553b940824a9eec4&biw=1280&bih=685

The greatest invention since the alphabet was that of movable wooden types, made in 1436 by John Gutenberg, of Mayence. The idea was original with him, though such types had been used for centuries in China; but the manner in which that ...

From: http://books.google.com/books?id=YyLVAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA398&dq=%22greatest+invention+since+the+alphabet%22&hl=en&ei=WE8JTrueL6OlsAL5uICsAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22greatest%20invention%20since%20the%20alphabet%22&f=false

BTW, it took several years, between the initial invention and a national marketing campaign, before sliced bread went viral. Bitcoins needs a Wonder moment. Perhaps a call to the internet marketing gurus is in order to cook up a Subservient Chicken.

SAT Question: Wordpress is to movable type as bitcoins are to ?

...and more food for thought: ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sliced_bread

I should like to let you know how important sliced bread is to the morale and saneness of a household. My husband and four children are all in a rush during and after breakfast. Without ready-sliced bread I must do the slicing for toast—two pieces for each one—that's ten. For their lunches I must cut by hand at least twenty slices, for two sandwiches apiece. Afterward I make my own toast. Twenty-two slices of bread to be cut in a hurry!

Bitcoin's next major step should be the development of a "simple-for-grandma" app.

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Just because the bible is full of a lot of crap doesn't mean that guy jesus wasn't on to something when he said "treat others how you wanna be treated"

and doesnt mean many of his ideas were wrong, including a lot of stuff that was left out of the bible (reincarnation, for instance)

just because organized religion is clearly a program doesn't mean we arent spiritual beings...i feel i have a soul, and i believe there is a creator of that soul, a being who i am eternally grateful towards. that being is NOT the same as the jehovah of the bible though, as should be clear to anyone whos actually read the thing.
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bitcoin has the potential to put PayPal, Visa, Mastercard, Amex etc out of business.
not likely but very possible to take out PayPal first.
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
Great thread title!

Bitcoin is the biggest threat to the pharisees, moneychangers, priests, and kings since Rabbi Jesus the Christ started up his little cult of heretics.

Stuff, in order of importance:

1. Big Bang
2. Bitcoin
3. Sex (tie)
3. Beer (tie)
4. Fire
5. Wheel
6. Internet (tie)
6. Nutella (tie)

I suppose I could understand that coming from someone who enjoys bitcoins more than sex Grin and believes that everything came from nothing.

Oh I see, you're laboring under the illusion that separateness exists (outside of conceptual metaphor) and that in reality, the universe is not a unified field.   Roll Eyes

Good luck with that superstitious misapplication of pagan/Manichean spiritual concepts to real world. 

I for one, wouldn't fly in any airplanes built using "Biblically correct engineering" or live near a nuke plant designed using "Christian quantum physics."   Shocked

Godless empiricism for me, thanks.

Is this your list?

1. The All Father (tie)
1. The Son (tie)
1. The Holy Spirit (tie)
2. Mary Mother of God (tie)
2. Moses The Prophet (tie)
2. Abraham The Patriarch (tie)
3. The Pope of Rome (tie)
3. The Archbishop of Canterbury (tie)
3. The Grand Mullah Herpaderp of Mecca (tie)
4. The Bitcoin of EnterWebs

That's such a busy *PANTHEON* of Gods and minor Deities, there's hardly room for Bitcoin.  And what about the Vegas wife?   Undecided
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So if Bitcoin beats the bible I think the ranking would be something like this.

1. Music
2. Spork
3. L shapped tetris piece
4. Bitcoin
5. Bible
6. Fork
7. Onion rings
8. Movies
9. Spoon
10. Virtual Boy

Right?

No, no.

Sliced bread always takes #1 spot.
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So if Bitcoin beats the bible I think the ranking would be something like this.

1. Music
2. Spork
3. L shapped tetris piece
4. Bitcoin
5. Bible
6. Fork
7. Onion rings
8. Movies
9. Spoon
10. Virtual Boy

Right?
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Harry Potter is bigger than the Bible. Just saying.
And I think the 6th book was longer too.

And it's sold more copies worldwide.

Sell everything, invest in white messenger owls and magic wands.

A refrigerator is bigger than the Bible too? But I rather have the Bible on my shelf  Grin
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Wow. Bi-polar much?

Last week you were all pissing and moaning how bitcoins were going to zero due to the MTGOX fiasco.

Now its "bigger than the bible"?

Kind a ironic, since the bible tells you bitcoins are good. What took you so long???

Proverbs 25:28
He who has no rule over his own spirit is like a broken down city without a wall. (Anti-FED, anti-bankster)

Proverbs 13:11
Wealth obtained by fraud dwindles, but the one who gathers by labor increases it. (Bitcoin Mining  ;^)  )

Ecclesiastes 11:2
Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth. (Diversify)

Exodus 22:25
If you lend money to My people, to the poor among you, you are not to act as a creditor to him; you shall not charge him interest. (interest free bitcoin loans).

Matthew 5:42
Give to him who asks of you, and do not turn away from him who wants to borrow from you. (Lending means growth)

Proverbs 15:22
Without consultation, plans are frustrated, but with many counselors they succeed. (Open-source effort)

Psalm 35:27
Let them shout for joy and rejoice, who favor my vindication; and let them say continually, “The Lord be magnified, who delights in the prosperity of His servant.” (God wants people to prosper)

1 Cor 16:2
“On the first day of every week each one of you is to put aside and save, as he may prosper, so that no collections be made when I come.” (Don't sell all your bitcoins)

Proverbs 22:29
Do you see a man skilled in his work? He will stand before kings; he will not stand before obscure men. (Bitcoin, the work of skilled men, is standing up well against the US dollar.)


What does Harry Potter have to say about Bitcoin or finance? Huh? Just sayin.
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Great post!
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Harry Potter is bigger than the Bible. Just saying.
And I think the 6th book was longer too.

And it's sold more copies worldwide.

Sell everything, invest in white messenger owls and magic wands.
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Great thread title!

Bitcoin is the biggest threat to the pharisees, moneychangers, priests, and kings since Rabbi Jesus the Christ started up his little cult of heretics.

Stuff, in order of importance:

1. Big Bang
2. Bitcoin
3. Sex (tie)
3. Beer (tie)
4. Fire
5. Wheel
6. Internet (tie)
6. Nutella (tie)

You better switch 2 and 3 Wink
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