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legendary
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April 21, 2023, 05:43:51 AM
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One key question to ask yourself with every advertising or marketing campaign is: What goal or objective am I trying to accomplish? The community is already strong enough as it is, so what would be the rationale for making such an investment? Instead, I'm with the others who have already brought it up - the forum admins should really prioritize optimizing it for mobile use and embracing new technologies in order to appeal to a younger audience.



This post gave me all possible reasons the forum does not advertise and I think I am satisfied now.

In that case, I recommend that you consider closing this thread.
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Indirectly we have projects and news media during the advertising for the forum. I got to know about this forum because of a bounty I wanted to join way back in 2017 and we still have those bounties ongoing in 2023. From this bounties we have users that might pick interest in wanting to know more about the forum as I did and they might turn out to be productive members of the forum. We also have news platforms and influencers advertising the platform for free because whenever there's a Bitcoin related anniversary that has to do with the forum they post it and their followers get to know about the forum.

We have anniversaries like I'm Hodling, Bitcoin pizza day etc that all have something to do with the forum and I have seen them on numerous twitter profile with big following and all this contribute to the advertising of the forum in some ways. We also have new projects coming on the forum to make their ANN (announcement thread), people that are interested in the project follow the links to the forum to read and get to know about the forum existence. The forum also get ads when mentions of Bitcoin forum comes up. There is so many means in which the forums gets its advertisment so it doesn't necessarily has to advertise itself, the forum has her users doing that for it as I believe we constantly introduces our friends to the forum and they they do the same etc.
I am so much pleased with this response. I have been going through the responses, there are so many good responses but this is the best that explained everything comprehensible to me. Some persons only reason bitcointalk.org does not advertise is because it is a forum, a forum does not advertise. I don't take that as a sound argument or response.
This post gave me all possible reasons the forum does not advertise and I think I am satisfied now.
Thank you CryptopreneurBrainboss
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Indirectly we have projects and news media during the advertising for the forum. I got to know about this forum because of a bounty I wanted to join way back in 2017 and we still have those bounties ongoing in 2023. From this bounties we have users that might pick interest in wanting to know more about the forum as I did and they might turn out to be productive members of the forum. We also have news platforms and influencers advertising the platform for free because whenever there's a Bitcoin related anniversary that has to do with the forum they post it and their followers get to know about the forum.

We have anniversaries like I'm Hodling, Bitcoin pizza day etc that all have something to do with the forum and I have seen them on numerous twitter profile with big following and all this contribute to the advertising of the forum in some ways. We also have new projects coming on the forum to make their ANN (announcement thread), people that are interested in the project follow the links to the forum to read and get to know about the forum existence. The forum also get ads when mentions of Bitcoin forum comes up. There is so many means in which the forums gets its advertisment so it doesn't necessarily has to advertise itself, the forum has her users doing that for it as I believe we constantly introduces our friends to the forum and they they do the same etc.

     -  This is exactly what you said, this is the reason why Bitcointalk forum doesn't need ads anymore, because all the bounty hunters who are involved in the promotion of projects that enter here on the bitcointalk platform and our forum is automatically promoted.

With the number of categories provided by the promotion of new projects in the platform industry, it is sure to be recognized. Youtube, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Discord, Telegram, Article, translation and others will really help the forum platform in my understanding.
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While viewing football during weekends I see companies like Stake, Sportbet.io and many others advertise on the display boards and also sponsor football clubs and I also see them here advertising.

But I have never seen bitcointalk advertisment anywhere but yet there is traffic.
It is true that social media platforms like Facebook, twitter and Instagram does not also advertise anywhere but people advertise for them indirectly when they sample their profiles which will include their twitter and Instagram handles.
I have never seen: contact me on bitcointalk @Stephen.
Any special reasons for not advertising bitcointalk forum?
And don't we think there will be shortage of users here as time passes?

In order to keep this forum healthy (away from unauthorized persons) there is no need to advertise it. You also have to be able to distinguish between real forums - social media - forums that seek to raise money. Apart from that, because the initial purpose of creating this forum was a discussion about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies (or development), so it is not important to pay for ads on Google.

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How about have you seen YouTube advertisement? What about Reddit or Pinterest? Because 'bitcointalk" is a forum and forums don't need advertisement, simply because it is an avenue where people come to discuss business and services pertaining to what the forum stands for, just like Bitcointalk forum which stands for "Bitcoin" and official forum for people to discuss issues regarding the use, investment and trading of Bitcoin, unlike social media platforms like Facebook, Twitter & Youtube which offers a general market place for public discussion.

Why advertising a platform that's already getting too much business. There is no need to waste money when your targets are achieved without it. Despite zero advertisement the activity per day and number of active users here are way too high then other forums of same category. Bitcointalk.org is supposed to be created by founder of bitcoin aka Satoshi back in 2009. The reason for this platform creation is to share details of bitcoin or we may say its a non profit platform.
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Indirectly we have projects and news media during the advertising for the forum. I got to know about this forum because of a bounty I wanted to join way back in 2017 and we still have those bounties ongoing in 2023. From this bounties we have users that might pick interest in wanting to know more about the forum as I did and they might turn out to be productive members of the forum. We also have news platforms and influencers advertising the platform for free because whenever there's a Bitcoin related anniversary that has to do with the forum they post it and their followers get to know about the forum.

We have anniversaries like I'm Hodling, Bitcoin pizza day etc that all have something to do with the forum and I have seen them on numerous twitter profile with big following and all this contribute to the advertising of the forum in some ways. We also have new projects coming on the forum to make their ANN (announcement thread), people that are interested in the project follow the links to the forum to read and get to know about the forum existence. The forum also get ads when mentions of Bitcoin forum comes up. There is so many means in which the forums gets its advertisment so it doesn't necessarily has to advertise itself, the forum has her users doing that for it as I believe we constantly introduces our friends to the forum and they they do the same etc.
legendary
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Originally when I saw this post I was going to reply that BitcoinTalk does not need advertising and that it is already large and established enough to naturally garner attention with its brand and existing community...however, I actually think that a large-scale advertising campaign could propel the BitcoinTalk community into something none of us have ever been able to experience in an online forum, in terms of activity.
Large scale advertising campaign for a discussion forum would be an utter waste of money and honestly I never even saw a forum doing something like that.

I've been active on various forums for ~20 years and what's obvious is that they are pass their prime simply because there is way more competition now than it was in the past and younger generations usually prefer faster means of communication like Twitter/reddit/ Telegram/Discord etc. What bitcointalk could do though to attract younger audience is to at least optimize it for a mobile phone use but unfortunately we can't even get that.
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however, I actually think that a large-scale advertising campaign could propel the BitcoinTalk community into something none of us have ever been able to experience in an online forum, in terms of activity.

I am not sure that such a a large-scale campaign is possible, because Bitcointalk has pretty high demands for its users, it is difficult to rank up here, post evaluation criteria are also quite challenging. If someone is not ready to constantly learn, improve and keep trying to become more useful for the community, than there are a little chance to stay at the forum, because it gets hard to motivate oneself. For me, for example, the forum is more like a studying or even work. But I am not sure that a lot of newbies come here with the same attitude. In this regard, how exactly the a large-scale campaign should be like? Come here, study hard, try to become more useful, even is you meet a lot os obstacles such as merit absence or some discouraging comments from senior users? From my experience, this is not what attracts people to new platforms
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To me I feel it's because Bitcointalk is not a social media platform used for making friends and keeping in touch, or maybe it's seen unsafe as many people see Bitcointalk talk as scam, that's my thoughts though, please I stand to be corrected if my thoughts are wrong
How ironic! Bitcointalk isn’t a forum for making friends and pictures, that’s why it’s difficult for scams to succeed here. There is no reason for anyone to contact you via dm. How can bitcointalk be seen as a scam? There is zero tolerance for scammers on this forum, a scammer can be easily identified through their trust ratings. I can’t say the same for other social media platforms, scammers roam free on Facebook, Instagram and Telegram, that’s where they get most of their victims from.
legendary
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Originally when I saw this post I was going to reply that BitcoinTalk does not need advertising and that it is already large and established enough to naturally garner attention with its brand and existing community...however, I actually think that a large-scale advertising campaign could propel the BitcoinTalk community into something none of us have ever been able to experience in an online forum, in terms of activity. Of course if this were to happen a lot of preparations would need to be made...more staff to ensure moderation keeps up with activity growth and increased infrastructure to ensure that the forum can keep up with the increase in traffic are two of the first things that come to mind. Maybe a good time to start a large-scale campaign would be after the new forum software has been released and approved by the community that it is a better alternative than the existing SMF board.

This post has made me wonder a lot about what a large-scale campaign could do to the forum.
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Any special reasons for not advertising bitcointalk forum?
And don't we think there will be shortage of users here as time passes?

I don't think there are some special reasons, even direct reasons for not advertising bitcointalk. It is just that the forum does not really need to advertise because it has built a strong reputation and brand recognition over the years. It is more about community, people-driven platform, and it has gained its popularity and success through recommendations from its users. When I visit beginners and help thread, I often come across stories of newbies who came to the forum, and most of them say that they heard about it from acquaintances who are already active here. As the community grows, more users join the forum, creating a snowball effect, and no advertising is needed to sustain its growth.
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To me I feel it's because Bitcointalk is not a social media platform used for making friends and keeping in touch, or maybe it's seen unsafe as many people see Bitcointalk talk as scam, that's my thoughts though, please I stand to be corrected if my thoughts are wrong
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While viewing football during weekends I see companies like Stake, Sportbet.io and many others advertise on the display boards and also sponsor football clubs and I also see them here advertising.

But I have never seen bitcointalk advertisment anywhere but yet there is traffic.
It is true that social media platforms like Facebook, twitter and Instagram does not also advertise anywhere but people advertise for them indirectly when they sample their profiles which will include their twitter and Instagram handles.
I have never seen: contact me on bitcointalk @Stephen.
Any special reasons for not advertising bitcointalk forum?
And don't we think there will be shortage of users here as time passes?
How about have you seen YouTube advertisement? What about Reddit or Pinterest? Because 'bitcointalk" is a forum and forums don't need advertisement, simply because it is an avenue where people come to discuss business and services pertaining to what the forum stands for, just like Bitcointalk forum which stands for "Bitcoin" and official forum for people to discuss issues regarding the use, investment and trading of Bitcoin, unlike social media platforms like Facebook, Twitter & Youtube which offers a general market place for public discussion.
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There are many establishements that don't advertise themselves and yet make a reasonable amount of profits and pull out a large crowd to itself, this depends on what they offer and how the need arises from people that key into what they do, bitcoin has go far beyond just an advertisement because people desire to know about it, learn from it from an official website or community like no other than bitcointalk created for such purpose.
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I think it would not be necessary to advertise this place, because usually webpages and services which advertise themselves on the internet and in real life have a scheme in which they economically benefit through the traffic they can get. The administration of this forum does not directly benefit from the number of users it has.

Also, a new wave of users would be bad, because I am afraid the average internet user can be toxic, trollish and prone to shitpost around here.
Finally, I assume that the newest generations of young people may not be very much into forums, they are used to immediate interaction, the kind one can find on Twitter, Discord, Telegram, etc. Only people from the 2000's would feel initially appealed to this lovely place.

In conclusion, in my eyes we do not need to pay for advertisement.
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I have never seen: contact me on bitcointalk @Stephen.
Any special reasons for not advertising bitcointalk forum?
And don't we think there will be shortage of users here as time passes?
Don't forget this is an anonymous site so if one starts sharing their profile links to random persons on other social medias it will defeat the sole idea of the forum. Bitcointalk is an information site. If you do a search on google or other search engines about informations that has been discussed on Bitcointalk when the list of suggested sites pops up Bitcointalk will be inclusive and it will be ranked based on which site has more visits.

The forum will never lack users because as more people abandon their profile other newbies will come to replace them. In as much as Bitcointalk is not advertised as every other sites it doesn't mean it is hidden from users who search the web for informations.
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You know what I love about this forum? that's what you can really learn here, although I'm not saying that we can't get any learning from other social media platforms, but only in this forum I found something that provides an opportunity to help the community that will have an interest in knowing the things that we want to know.

    Because what are the other categories that we see on different social media platforms you can also see here on the forum, though not all. Then apart from the opportunity that we can see here that is not on any other platform like this, you can also see things that most people around the world do not know that can only be seen here on this forum.
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Coca cola has products to sell whereas bitcointalk what needs to be sold? Here is only a place to discuss bitcoin and other crypto news but bitcointalk provides a service where several other companies can do advertisement promotion and the platform has had an advantage after bitcointalk got a lot of traffic because the interest in this forum is increasing.
I guess that sums it all up. It adds enough jam to it. Ideas rule the world. Most rich outfits don't even produce tangible products like coca cola does but they sell idea to the world. Take a look at Facebook, what tangible product does it produce? None. The CEO of Facebook – Mark Zuckerberg –, is among the richest people in the world. Yet, he doesn't produce edibles. He's only selling connectivity to the world and making his money. It's the same thing with BTT. It's very much in the scheme of things, selling intangibles and inedible in the form of adverts and promotions.
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At first I thought you might have said why not advertise on the forum. That is, when we browse this forum, ads of various products will appear on this forum, as we usually see in Facebook videos. Where a few seconds of ads show during the video. 

However, after reading your post a few times, I realized that you meant why we don't advertise this forum on various sites to increase our awareness of this forum. I think there is no need for it because as of September 2021 there are currently 2.8 million BitcoinTalk users. And I believe that the number of users has increased more in this one year. 
This huge number of members are directly involved with bitcoin forum so why add this forum on different platforms to increase the publicity of this forum. People will find the information on this forum hopefully without the need for advertising.
legendary
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Bitcointalk most likely isn't planning on profiting from every user that registers, it's a free forum for whoever you are so admin don't advertise it.
They can't profit from anyone currently. Members can voluntarily help in reporting or distributing merits, if that counts. Others can become moderators or eventually admins, but in that case, the forum pays them according to their performance.

Even if some people have to pay a few bitcoins for a malicious IP, this is still a free forum that doesn't need advertising.
There is a solution for that as well. Theymos appointed a few trusted members who have the power to whitelist users who got caught up in the evil IP storm.
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