Topic: Why did cryptodevil mark me red? (Read 645 times)

1.That is, mining is ponzi?

Mining is a sector where minerals are dug up or coins created; it is neither a ponzi nor not a ponzi in itself.

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2. Wikipedia claims a lot of absurd things. For example, that the plots on the moon are sold.

Nearly as absurd as your imaginary difference between HYIPs and Ponzis. The term "HYIP" was invented by the scam industry to make their "too good to be true" inventions sound legitimate. A legitimate investment scheme is a provably legitimate investment scheme, irrespective of yield.

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Use authoritative sources:

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There are two types of HYIPs (or High Yield Investment Programs), others have to do with banking or investment in some offshore trading company with shady rules and cryptic technicalities, and these are the ones you will want to avoid. The other kind is the transparent kind that involves investment in shares, gold, futures or other local, understandable and verifiable trading setup.

Take your own advice.
Your "authoritative source" quote is dredged up from a site called streetdirectory.com/travel_guide/

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3 .You are not oriented at all in elementary concepts.

Obviously the only person who knows anything about anything is you.

Cryptodevil's feedback was and is accurate in my opinion and I would be surprised if he is convinced by your scammer hair splitting to remove it.
You'll be happy to read that I won't burden you and your pointless thread any further with my uninformed comments.

So what then may be the questions? The trust was changed for the project that mined cryptocurrencies and had a faucet on the site. Mining is HYIP, but not ponzi. Good thing you understand that.

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Quote from: upline on May 04, 2019, 01:18:07 PM

1.That is, mining is ponzi?

Mining is a sector where minerals are dug up or coins created; it is neither a ponzi nor not a ponzi in itself.

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2. Wikipedia claims a lot of absurd things. For example, that the plots on the moon are sold.

Nearly as absurd as your imaginary difference between HYIPs and Ponzis. The term "HYIP" was invented by the scam industry to make their "too good to be true" inventions sound legitimate. A legitimate investment scheme is a provably legitimate investment scheme, irrespective of yield.

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Use authoritative sources:

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There are two types of HYIPs (or High Yield Investment Programs), others have to do with banking or investment in some offshore trading company with shady rules and cryptic technicalities, and these are the ones you will want to avoid. The other kind is the transparent kind that involves investment in shares, gold, futures or other local, understandable and verifiable trading setup.

Take your own advice.
Your "authoritative source" quote is dredged up from a site called streetdirectory.com/travel_guide/

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3 .You are not oriented at all in elementary concepts.

Obviously the only person who knows anything about anything is you.

Cryptodevil's feedback was and is accurate in my opinion and I would be surprised if he is convinced by your scammer hair splitting to remove it.
You'll be happy to read that I won't burden you and your pointless thread any further with my uninformed comments.

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I asked you mining is ponzi?

Do you really think that mining is that easy? you need to have a big investment to start something substantial to earn some profit and big mining farms usually spent millions to set up one and they do not start by collecting peanuts from the users who visit their site promising huge returns Tongue

, if you are not shelling out huge amounts it is a waste of money, you can be proud that you are supporting the mining echo system but you wont be getting any rewards, i was reading all your arguments about HYIP and Ponzi and the fact is all HYIP are scams.

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Quote from: marlboroza on May 04, 2019, 01:13:36 PM

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Are you trying to convince me that HYIP is not scam?

I asked you mining is ponzi?

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Quote from: marlboroza on May 04, 2019, 12:47:14 PM

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Are you trying to convince me that HYIP is not scam? I am talking about hyip advertised on your site (since 2015.: http://archive.is/o0Hnu)

BTW, what is finrivers you are advertising and in what are they investing money?

What is kikohash?

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Let me remind you, not every HYIP is Ponzi, but every PONZY is HYIP.

Actually, every HYIP is ponzi.

3. I recommend that you study the materiel in more detail. HIP - High Yield Investment Programs. A Ponzi scheme is a form of fraud that lures investors and pays profits to earlier investors with funds from more recent investors.

Sounds like HYIP:

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A high-yield investment program (HYIP) is a type of Ponzi scheme, an investment scam that promises unsustainably high return on investment by paying previous investors with the money invested by new investors.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-yield_investment_program

This is basically the same thing with smaller differences but you are missing one very important thing, which is: both schemes are scam.

1.That is, mining is ponzi?
2. Wikipedia claims a lot of absurd things. For example, that the plots on the moon are sold. Use authoritative sources:

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There are two types of HYIPs (or High Yield Investment Programs), others have to do with banking or investment in some offshore trading company with shady rules and cryptic technicalities, and these are the ones you will want to avoid. The other kind is the transparent kind that involves investment in shares, gold, futures or other local, understandable and verifiable trading setup.

3 .You are not oriented at all in elementary concepts.

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Let me remind you, not every HYIP is Ponzi, but every PONZY is HYIP.

Actually, every HYIP is ponzi.

Quote from: uray on May 04, 2019, 07:58:27 AM

3. I recommend that you study the materiel in more detail. HIP - High Yield Investment Programs. A Ponzi scheme is a form of fraud that lures investors and pays profits to earlier investors with funds from more recent investors.

Sounds like HYIP:

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A high-yield investment program (HYIP) is a type of Ponzi scheme, an investment scam that promises unsustainably high return on investment by paying previous investors with the money invested by new investors.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-yield_investment_program

This is basically the same thing with smaller differences but you are missing one very important thing, which is: both schemes are scam.

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2. You did not read the thread at all?

I said the above because you are still arguing about it as if HYIP is not a scam.

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3. I recommend that you study the materiel in more detail. HIP - High Yield Investment Programs. A Ponzi scheme is a form of fraud that lures investors and pays profits to earlier investors with funds from more recent investors.

All HYIP does is to lure more users by giving away refunds for the initial investors and ask people like you to vouch for them and help them get a much bigger user base and when they reach their target, they just disappear and still you are arguing that it is an innocent business deal since you promoted it Lips sealed

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4. If the posts were deleted, then on the recommendation of the moderator. It is not forbidden by the rules to delete posts.

It is not forbidden by the rules to delete post to cover up the past Roll Eyes

, it is a good argument and so does cryptodevil as trust is also not moderated and i am sure that will be his argument.

I am out from this argument, good luck to you. Let the community decide about your arguments.

2.You do not know materiel at all. For example, mining is HYIP, but you will not argue that mining is a scam. Or will you?
3. What you describe is the Ponzi scheme, not the HYIP. I recommend you to study what is HYIP. You do not understand the topic at all. Again, not every HYIP is ponzi, but every Ponzi is a HYIP.
4. You inattentively read my previous post and the whole topic, reread.

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Quote from: Patatas on May 03, 2019, 05:44:14 PM

2. You did not read the thread at all?

I said the above because you are still arguing about it as if HYIP is not a scam.

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3. I recommend that you study the materiel in more detail. HIP - High Yield Investment Programs. A Ponzi scheme is a form of fraud that lures investors and pays profits to earlier investors with funds from more recent investors.

All HYIP does is to lure more users by giving away refunds for the initial investors and ask people like you to vouch for them and help them get a much bigger user base and when they reach their target, they just disappear and still you are arguing that it is an innocent business deal since you promoted it Lips sealed

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4. If the posts were deleted, then on the recommendation of the moderator. It is not forbidden by the rules to delete posts.

It is not forbidden by the rules to delete post to cover up the past Roll Eyes

, it is a good argument and so does cryptodevil as trust is also not moderated and i am sure that will be his argument.

I am out from this argument, good luck to you. Let the community decide about your arguments.

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Op's case is exactly why we have so many unsolvable disputes on the forum. Everyone just wants to feed their ego instead of apologising and moving on. Arguing over the topics that they don't have knowledge about and retaliating when proved they're wrong.

OP : Apologising that you did promote a Ponzi a long time ago and you haven't done it since ages had more chances of getting that feedback removed.

I also think that a person can admit his mistake if he really was mistaken. There is nothing wrong with that.

Quote from: uray on May 04, 2019, 12:11:06 AM

2. With this approach, all projects can be safely called Ponzi schemes. For some reason I thought that in the Ponz schemes there are those who did not receive a profit. And there are no people who have not received a profit.

You are wrong here and so is the reason you are still trying to defend your actions, there is nothing wrong in being ignorant but if you are not taking any effort to understand what went wrong and still trying to get through the situation with baseless debates will not make any difference in your case, trust is not moderated and you could have sorted with cryptodevil but you choose this path instead.

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3. You can create your startup and try to add it there, if it certainly does not work according to Ponzi scheme.
You do not seem to be completely oriented in terms of HYIP and Ponzi. Let me remind you, not every HYIP is Ponzi, but every PONZY is HYIP.

So explain what is a HYIP and give me one such scheme that are running for a long time, you really think that they are giving out free money from thin air Roll Eyes

. All HYIP are scams

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4. Do you have evidence to the contrary?

The part that you choose to delete certain posts is the evidence you are looking for ?

2. You did not read the thread at all?
3. I recommend that you study the materiel in more detail. HIP - High Yield Investment Programs. A Ponzi scheme is a form of fraud that lures investors and pays profits to earlier investors with funds from more recent investors.
4. If the posts were deleted, then on the recommendation of the moderator. It is not forbidden by the rules to delete posts.

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Quote from: stompix on May 03, 2019, 12:54:46 PM

2. With this approach, all projects can be safely called Ponzi schemes. For some reason I thought that in the Ponz schemes there are those who did not receive a profit. And there are no people who have not received a profit.

You are wrong here and so is the reason you are still trying to defend your actions, there is nothing wrong in being ignorant but if you are not taking any effort to understand what went wrong and still trying to get through the situation with baseless debates will not make any difference in your case, trust is not moderated and you could have sorted with cryptodevil but you choose this path instead.

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3. You can create your startup and try to add it there, if it certainly does not work according to Ponzi scheme.
You do not seem to be completely oriented in terms of HYIP and Ponzi. Let me remind you, not every HYIP is Ponzi, but every PONZY is HYIP.

So explain what is a HYIP and give me one such scheme that are running for a long time, you really think that they are giving out free money from thin air Roll Eyes

. All HYIP are scams

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4. Do you have evidence to the contrary?

The part that you choose to delete certain posts is the evidence you are looking for ?

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Op's case is exactly why we have so many unsolvable disputes on the forum. Everyone just wants to feed their ego instead of apologising and moving on. Arguing over the topics that they don't have knowledge about and retaliating when proved they're wrong.

OP : Apologising that you did promote a Ponzi a long time ago and you haven't done it since ages had more chances of getting that feedback removed.

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Pretty interesting that your "payments" came from the xapo cold wallet... Grin

So, should I trust somebody who was advertising a ponzi and the deleted a message or should I believe that you were just picking random transactions from blockchain.info and showing them as proof?

What is interesting about this? What prevents to pay the administrator from anywhere?

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Quote from: upline on May 03, 2019, 07:29:16 AM

Quote from: AdolfinWolf on May 03, 2019, 07:16:30 AM

http://archive.is/vTMIq#selection-3891.0-3901.97
You deleted the posts of you making dozens of deposits on the site? That's uhhh, shady to say the least? (You're lying?)

Perhaps you've grown up and aren't the same person you were 2 years ago, but then we find this exhibit;, you're also advertising http://hyipin.com in your profile.
Mind explaining how that isn't promoting a ponzi?

That site is like a collection of cancers that i wish to avoid in my lifetime.

Did I really deny that I received payments from the faucet? Where is the evidence that I advertised Ponzi scheme?
In my profile is my personal site. On it, I do not use any Ponzi schemes.

Pretty interesting that your "payments" came from the xapo cold wallet... Grin

So, should I trust somebody who was advertising a ponzi and the deleted a message or should I believe that you were just picking random transactions from blockchain.info and showing them as proof?

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on May 03, 2019, 06:25:07 AM

That feedback is from about 2.5 years ago. Why are you now just starting to question it?

Maybe because cryptodevil made it to DT2? Cool

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Quote from: hacker1001101001 on May 03, 2019, 11:48:07 AM

Quote from: tmfp on May 03, 2019, 10:33:13 AM

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Do you even know what the ponzi scheme is?

Do you even know whom are you talking too?

I think you should check @tmfp's post history once. You know nowhere near him what a poniz or MLM is.

Atleast check his personal text! Shocked

What for? I am guided by what he writes here. Everyone can be wrong, and you and me.

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Quote from: tmfp on May 03, 2019, 10:33:13 AM

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Do you even know what the ponzi scheme is?

Do you even know whom are you talking too?

I think you should check @tmfp's post history once. You know nowhere near him what a poniz or MLM is.

Atleast check his personal text! Shocked

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Quote from: tmfp on May 03, 2019, 11:06:36 AM

Quote from: AdolfinWolf on May 03, 2019, 10:40:01 AM

Stop lying, click on the link and see. The site has a faucet.

That's the second time you have called me a liar. I suggest you stop.

You're not helping your case here buddy.

He has no case.

1. Please give a quote where I called you a liar?
2. With this approach, all projects can be safely called Ponzi schemes. For some reason I thought that in the Ponz schemes there are those who did not receive a profit. And there are no people who have not received a profit.
3. Chain.group is a scam about what I wrote in the thread.
Finrivers is a real platform for startups. You can create your startup and try to add it there, if it certainly does not work according to Ponzi scheme.
You do not seem to be completely oriented in terms of HYIP and Ponzi. Let me remind you, not every HYIP is Ponzi, but every PONZY is HYIP.
4. Do you have evidence to the contrary?
5. Do not quite understand what you mean?

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Quote from: AdolfinWolf on May 03, 2019, 10:40:01 AM

Stop lying, click on the link and see. The site has a faucet.

That's the second time you have called me a liar. I suggest you stop.

You're not helping your case here buddy.

He has no case.

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Quote from: AdolfinWolf on May 03, 2019, 10:40:01 AM

Stop lying, click on the link and see. The site has a faucet.
In the above quote there is nothing about Ponzi scheme.

Who are you trying to fool here? You think all of us are a bunch of braindead morons?

If you had explained why you promoted ponzi's in the past, and apologized for it, perhaps you could have received some leeway.

Instead, you told use that the rating was false, despite the archive link i posted above proving otherwise, and continue to spout nonsense/outright lies about certain specifics which really don't matter.

You're not helping your case here buddy.

What kind of nonsense are you writing? Who am I trying to fool and why? I did not advertise the Ponzi scheme and on this point. And no one can prove the opposite, because it was not.

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