Topic: Why did Satoshi use GB British English and international English ? - page 3. (Read 1062 times)

satoshi was one man..
but he took idea's from different elements of the cypherpunks group. and he had people like theymos and hal debug code in the early months.
they all used their own pseudonyms

as for the language. i dont see any purposeful internationalising words. i would just say his spell checker showed the annoying red underline. where the spellcheck changed it to international when he was bothered to right click and take its suggestion

apart from that all signs of buzzwords time format and phrases point to british based language
but a hint of their language does not give any evidence of their physical location.(you know planes can take people anywhere these days)

What if Satoshi purposely wrote varied English styles to make people think that he isn't one person?
So what you're thinking about him right now, is exactly what Satoshi expected.
If you are referring satoshi account in this forum, I assume it is operated by a single person. Why? Can many people together use 1 account for a serious thing like this forum? I am not sure if many people are possible to trust each other for this matter. There should be one leader in a community forum and the leader won't share his private thing like using a forum account together, even with his friends. It probably risks him.

This was Satoshi's penultimate post. What you've said about being in fear of getting betrayed is serious because Satoshi's disappearance coincided when bitcoin was being used to send donations to Wikileaks. It was when the US went on the offensive against Wikileaks. It's possible in the end Satoshi couldn't risk being sold out by people so went underground fearing it's something that's going to happen one day.

I am convinced that all these theories will remain just theories and nothing more, in 10 years or 50 years, nothing will change in that regard. The truth that many are looking for will only be found out if Satoshi shows up and unequivocally proves that it is him or them, but even then there can be a suspicion that someone just managed to gain possession of his private data.

Over the years, I've read dozens, if not hundreds, of such threads, and learned nothing new - but I've recently had a chance to read about the relationship between Satoshi and the people who worked with him, and it's much clearer now why he disappeared - in case he did not do so it would only be a matter of time before some of these Judas would betray him.

There is a big difference between the United States and England when it comes to writing and spelling. The differences aren't as obvious when you consider the other Commonwealth nations such as Canada, New Zealand, or Australia. They use British English there as well. You also have Ireland and Scotland to consider. 

Well, this is very interesting to discuss because I personally believe that Satoshi is a group of anonymous people, not one anonymous person...

I still remember very well someone once said that 'it is not difficult to detect the presence of one person but when there are many it will be very difficult'. satoshi is a group or individual, I still admire him and really grateful for making the world a better place.

What if it's a government led project. I agree with you that hardly any team would be able to keep such a secret to themselves forever unless it is a government operation. I think it is at least a possibility that can't easily be ruled out. If it was a one man show, what do you think how long it took that person to write the whole code?

From today's perspective it might look easier than it actually was to pull the whole thing off successfully. I mean sure the ingredients were there but when you first sit down and try to make the right decisions and combinations to come up with something of Bitcoin's calibre, that is still extremely impressive.

Also the question whether Satoshi is dead or not, who would be able to refrain from touching a million BTC? Could a single individual resist? I don't know. A government could I guess.

I have read a lot about this and done a lot of digging around to try and see whom I think Satoshi is or was.  I think there are two trains of thought, either Satoshi did a lot of things on purpose to throw people off, or there were a couple individuals who made up Satoshi.  I know Satoshi once used the term "bloody" as in like "bloody hell".  As an American I can tell you we never use that term here. So it makes you wonder.  Personally I think that it was a combo of cypherpunks such as Hal Finney and Nick Szabo.

I'm with the theory Satoshi was a team. I'm aware the false clues and dead ends theory is possible because words containing international English and GB British English "s" and "z" could've been put out there deliberately. What Hal said about Satoshi was high level complimentary but imagine how much respect Satoshi would've had for Hal. We'll never know.

Surprisingly, if you really find out who Satoshi is, then this could clarify a number of important questions, but as I noticed, for some reason this question is not particularly asked, why? I believe that the use of English in writing your messages says a lot, for example, that Satoshi is a person or a group of people from the United States or England, and if so, then this tells us a lot. But unfortunately all these are just our guesses and at the moment we cannot know 100% how everything really is. But I still hope that in the near future there will be more information about who Satoshi is, where he is from and why the blockchain and cryptocurrencies were developed.

Whether it’s about him, her, or them it’s completely irrelevant, and given that it’s someone above-average intelligent, I believe nothing was done by accident, and that someone wanted to create a lot of false clues and dead ends. The fact that people have been trying to achieve something with their analyzes for 10 years without moving from the deadlock clearly indicates that Satoshi succeeded in his intention to remain anonymous.

Instead of chasing ghosts, it is enough for me to read what Hal wrote about Satoshi - and yet he is a man who was very close to him to be able to evaluate some things.

I agree with you that no team can keep a secret for so long. A team will always have disputes, and when there are disputes, there will be mistakes.

I didn't know about your thread. That's a good one I like the way you cleanly placed comments you've collected from Satoshi to show examples. In Satoshi's posts "s" and "z" exist so questioning why international English and GB British English was used is right.

He might also be they because Satoshi could be a pseudonym for a team which collaborated in different countries. We just don't know.

It is quite difficult to make any good assumptions based solely on the type of English he decided to use since there can be many variables present. Just thinking about the dozens of reasons available as to why he did this or if he or they really were doing this on purpose, makes my head blow steam. Either way, it is a good thing since it misled everyone(maybe) and only made it harder to find the person(s) behind the name satoshi. Or maybe there are people who already know but chooses not to talk about it because they respect the wishes of the person(s) behind the name satoshi to not be found and stay hidden or maybe they are just being ridiculed and do not want to be ridiculed even further who knows? Truth of the matter is that I honestly don't know and can only speculate like most of the people in this industry.

On a side note though, topics about satoshi really piques my interest a lot maybe because of the mysteriousness connected to this name or the success by his/their creation or maybe simply because of his shocking predictions. But as to what I always say, let the guy/them be since if the person or people behind bitcoin is/are still alive after all this time, they wouldn't bother to go to such lengths to stay hidden if he/they really wanted to be found and be famous and take advantage of the success of bitcoin. Although I understand the curiosity and fascination along with the thrill of solving this huge hunt, I also understand that the guy/people behind this big name simply wants to live a peaceful life away from all the noise in this industry. Thus I hope people would respect his/their wishes and let him/them be.

Satoshi is a mystery person or individual and we can only know who he was if he discloses himself or Theymos show us his PM which could give us a tip of who he was and theymos once said he had no plan to disclose his PM as a sign of respecting his privacy which what the crypto community cherishes the most.
But using his mode of writing in British English to judge where is based will provide false answers cause he may have studied in British, know British English, or borne there and later relocated.

Fun fact -
The only hornet in the US is the European hornet, which is commonly referred to in the south as the Japanese hornet.

The book, "The Girl Who Kicked The Hornet's Nest", was popularized in the US and UK in 2009 and 2010, so the phrase would be extant in both locations at the time.

Europeans and Americans has the date formatting backwards. It should be yyyy/mm/dd to make sorting by date easier, like the Japanese do. Still, the dd/mm/yyyy format seems preferable to mm/dd/yyyy for working with data over time since it doesn't require inserting the smallest amount in the centre.

At the end of the day, it is about probabilities, even if hard evidence one day gives new details. The inconsistency of spelling, if taken at face value, points to an international, but the sleep schedule points to an American location.

mobile. not cellular

use of british dd/mm/yyyy format
not american mm/dd/yyyy format

his language was british. but heck im british and pre-pandemic i spent many years abroad. so my language does not = my location
and knowing he is british doesnt reveal any location either

It's interesting people think "bloody hell" considered exclusively GB British English when it isn't. "Splendid" is very GB British English but something tells me it's a word that's been used in Hollywood movies. It's getting harder pinning down words and expressions to geographic areas in a modern world.

Satoshi's whitepaper didn't appear to have any GB British English but some of Satoshi's posts did.

You said it before me. I do use expressions like "bloody hell", but I'm far from British.


Not at all. People can easily have strange sleeping schedule if they work on big projects they like, off work. Or people who travel a lot.
I could maybe say, based on such a schedule, that he probably doesn't have small kids at school but not much more.

@arabspaceship123
Your thread reminded me of one I created myself last year. My investigation on satoshi.

I was also interested in finding out if he was British or maybe American. Among the things I looked at was also the letters "z" and "s". There is also the letters "ou" in words like colour/color that are spelt differently depending on if you are taught British or American English.  

I really enjoyed reading Satoshi's posts and creating that thread.