Topic: Why did Satoshi use GB British English and international English ? - page 4. (Read 1049 times)

A splendid few z and s switches are easy. A bloody stereotypical word here is all that's required to confuse origins.
The majority of his language was technical and specific to the field, which have fewer American/British/Aus/Intl splits.
In the end, there isn't enough there. Most word-grams that I look at hint less American and more British.
Every person's language evolves very mildly over time, and they would be less likely to stick to a persona during the hours they are most tired.
If he had talked more about other aspects of life, there would have been other hints.
The question would be whether he uses phrases that a non-Brit or non-American (whichever) would barely recognise.

The writing style doesn't say anything, especially because one can move from locations.

But, his words age him. "inpoint" and "outpoint" (noted by Pmalek) mean that he's older, as these fell out of favour in the past few decades.


If you were to look at any internet forum, you would find that any user don't post as much at their 2am (except for people who work night-shifts, which is very rare to stay consistent).
Satoshi's daily posting patterns put him at about Hal Finney's location (Arizona). (Not to mention that Satoshi disappeared at about the same time that Hal had to quit working due to ALS..)
It is unfortunately very difficult to hide your general location, without scripting delayed responses, and very few people have that ability and are so committed to privacy to consider that.

I could post "splendid" once in a while, but that doesn't make me based in Britain.

I know nullius has always loved his privacy, up to the point that he tries to post around the clock to hide his time zone. Does his writing style really say anything useful about his whereabouts? I doubt it. Same for Satoshi.

That's based on your theory that Satoshi typed using GB British English but had default autocorrect or spellchecker settings in international English. Deliberate or not the whitepaper didn't use GB British English it used international English.

That's true

Blockstream CEO Adam Back is British maybe he's got some involvement. Hal Finney and Nick Szabo are other names linked to Satoshi.

satoshi used british phrases

making him british based.
the other examples in previous post are just the annoying spell check corrections which he sometimes accepts or sometimes ignores

This might be just a bunch of errors.
I'm from eastern Europe and sometimes I make the same errors,when I'm writing words like these.
I don't know when to write the letter s or the letter z in some English words.
Does that make me a potential "Satoshi Nakamoto"?I don't think so.
I also think that it is grammatically correct to write the words in your list with z,instead of s.
I'm not an expert in English grammar,though...

Also if Satoshi was using different computers in different locations with different browsers etc.
there could have been spell checkers used or not. Lets face it whomever the person or group
was the great art was to create and remain anonymous.

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Here is an article which is very interesting and pretty much conclude that satoshi was
different people, Its very technical, I found it difficult to read parts.

https://towardsdatascience.com/stylometric-analysis-satoshi-nakamoto-294926cdf995

Some extracts below.

It can be that Satoshi was/is more than one person.
It can be that he was trying to confuse the followers. (I don't think so).
It can be that he was not English native.
It can be that he was British and the exceptions were made by some auto-completion.

Most probably we'll never know.

I'm not obsessed with working out who Satoshi is. If Satoshi's name is made public it doesn't mean it's going to adversely affect bitcoin we don't know what will happen.

I haven't look in more of Satoshi's posts but I don't use autocorrect tools set in different variants of English so why would anybody else?

I'm not saying anything for sure merely curious why Satoshi would use international English and GB British English.

common sense
he wrote using british english, but occasionally got annoyed by the red wiggly line that suggests he spelled something wrong. where reality is the spellcheck is set to international(US) english
so occasionally you will see that when he selects the spell checks preference, it makes him look less british

Or probably Satoshi is using different computers that have different types of English and he just didn't bother to change it and probably the autocorrect feature for his computer is probably strong. It's just me throwing speculation but I don't think that at that time, the auto correct function is really that good. Maybe Satoshi is doing this on purpose to throw off the scent that he/she is a one man.

The possibility that Satoshi is more than one person will always be there. However, it seems to me that Satoshi's use of both GB English and American English cannot be made a basis for a conclusion. It will create a hypothesis at most, one which we might not be able to prove ever.

There are just so many possibilities. Satoshi may be one person who is exposed to both American and GB English. Satoshi may be more than one. Satoshi may be a single person who is trying keep clues away from curious individuals. Satoshi could be Hal, Szabo, and so on, or both of them and 1 or 2 or 3 more persons. This could go on.

I don't believe the OPSEC theory. I don't believe international English and GB English was used to throw people off his scent. I'm believing Satoshi Nakamoto was a pseudonym used by the creators of bitcoin.

If Satoshi was one person it's hard to look past Hal Finney. He died in 2014 but he's standing out the most. If Satoshi was a group he was probably involved in it.

     Truth be told, you will never get a satisfying answer for this question that you have. Even when there may be authentic answers from the people who may have known or may have been a colleague of satoshi, there is just no way to confirm such answers. The only thing that asking this question will do is gain even more questions. Unless though if satoshi himself turns up, verifies his identity and speak for these people who responded. Which in my opinion is entirely impossible.

     But for speculations and such, there really is an equal possibility of satoshi being a group of people or a single person. Both of which are indeed useful to hide the true identity or identities of the person/people behind the creation of bitcoin. One thing is for certain though, whoever he, she or they are, it is very evident that through the silence from the creator(s) of bitcoin, the person or the people doesn't want to be found. I hope people would respect such decision and let the matter rest.

There's a third option: he doesn't know and didn't care how to write the words. I'm neither British nor American, but was taught British English on school. Most of the internet uses American English. I couldn't care less I type "optimised" or "optimized", and I'm pretty sure I've used different spellings for the same word once in a while too. I see no reason to assume Satoshi would use perfect English without mistakes.

Or all 3 options could be valid at the same time.

Perhaps Satoshi intended to do this to keep his true identity out of sight, of course there are many theories about the personality of Satoshi and no one yet has evidence that can lead to knowing the true personality of Satoshi, or even if he is one person or a group of people under a pseudonym! !!
In fact, the person who invented Bitcoin had amazing talents and of course he feared for himself if his identity was revealed, so it is likely that he deliberately used different language methods and different forms of communication in the singular or plural to increase the complexity and mystery of this unknown character, and it seems that he succeeded in doing so Brilliantly.

I believe this doesn't mean much, because there can be many explanations. A non-native English speaker would likely use both spelling simultaneously if they learned English from different sources. Or maybe Satoshi intentionally used many spellings to make it harder to uncover their identity. Or maybe Satoshi used to live in different English-speaking countries and ended up using both spellings without paying attention.

The examples are pretty well documented:

https://ungeared.com/the-strange-story-of-satoshi-nakamotos-spelling-choices-part-1/



Sometimes he even used both spelling variants on the same day:



So Satoshi was either multiple people or one clever person who was pretty switched on about OpSec.

Endless possibilities here. How can we predict someone's nationality entirely from their typing habits alone? What if he was from GB English background but just used the words alternatively and he had habit of doing so? We can't say anything for sure how anyone type the stuff. In extreme cases what if he had his assistant behind the screen answering others on behalf of him? What if he had dialect behaviour where he used to switch between two different English modes, or may be as OP said having mixed backgrounds?

This study can go anywhere but not to the point proving whether he was X English or Y English country person.

do you have any other example where Satoshi uses "s" instead of "z" because this is the only single example you posted with an "s" and it looks like change-log which might have been written by someone else (like Garzik) and copied here.
even still, one example is hardly proof because it may have been autocorrect tool setting one variation over the other.

He/they probably mixed it up so people can't easily figure out nationality.

With that being said, I honestly don't get the people's obsessions to figure out who is behind Satoshi Nakamoto name. Sure, all of us spend some time thinking who could that be, but I dont think that it could bring anything good to bitcoin, and I think that's exactly one of the many bitcoin's strengths.