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How can you legalize drugs? It will be very dangerous. If something like that is done, then the youth will become addicted to drugs, and deaths from overdose will shoot up. This is a very foolish suggestion.

Think about this for a second, and try to have an open mind about it.

Right now today, there are many drugs that drug users/dealers are not aware of, therefore they go on with their daily lives without it and spend time doing other things. Instead of focusing on something like Kratom, (we will use Kratom as our "random unpopular, unknown natural drug) they focus on the drugs that are glorified through our media, media that I remind you has BIG BIG money involved in it. Movies and music artists dont talk about Kratom, they talk about cocaine, ecstasy, crack, meth, heroin. Why do dealers sell these drugs? Because they are "valuable". Why are they valuable? Well because these are the famous drugs. Just like with people, fame = value.  We don't choose what is promoted in TV and Music, but the people paying for the creation of this entertainment, they DO choose what is promoted. This is why the mainstream of rap music is entirely promoting bad things, not because their are so many bad people out there, but because thats what these record labels want to promote so they find artists that fit the bill.

I digress, now let's say tomorrow CNN and Fox News have a front page story that says "Kratom, the legal drug that needs to be Illegal because popularity with Youth". Do you think there is going to be less awareness about Kratom or more awareness? Well of course since these websites have millions of viewers, Kratom would surely have a new wave of interest. Does showing us school shootings on the TVs every week make school shootings a reduced occurrence? Hell no, it becomes more normal the more we see it. So stop glorifying drugs, gun violence and people use it less because they spend less time thinking about it.

You don't miss what you never had. Ignorance is bliss. Sadly we don't control what we are ignorant to, to some degree.
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First of all, before adopting such dangerous laws, one must think whether this will be useful for your children.
I'm quite sure it it will be. I wouldn't want my child to be put in jail with murderers and rapists for smoking weed at a party.

The unfortunate fact is the global economy is completely dependent on illicit drug money. If this money was cut off the global economy would collapse. This is why it is opposed so vigorously.
The sad reality is we're living a lie. If you asked random people in the street they'd be against legal drugs because of all the  fear the media has put in their heads. The society is brainwashed.
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The unfortunate fact is the global economy is completely dependent on illicit drug money. If this money was cut off the global economy would collapse. This is why it is opposed so vigorously.
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Drug legalization would be good thing on developed countries. Lets say you have a chance on Asian countries to legaliza drugs, can you imagine the whole process?

Many of the developed nations have already legalized soft drugs. It has been hugely beneficial, by cutting down the drug-related crime, increasing the tax revenue, and creating more jobs. The developing countries (especially those in Asia) can also try the same. Not just drugs, but prostitution also must be legalized.

Euh... No?
I mean maybe we don't have the same definition of "many" but what countries did that?
There is... Netherlands ok, few states in USA... Spain maybe?
And that's all folks, whole Europe is more or less opposed to legalization anyway...
Don't mistake the leaders with the whole Europe. We as people don't have much influence despite democracy flag that each country uses to cover their actions.
To give you an example I would vote for a party that would openly state they want to legalize drugs and give people more freedom, but there are no such parties. People are so afraid of the conservative majority that they don't even say such things before the elections or they'd get laughed at by their opponents.
Once in a few years someone comes up with a smart idea like making guns more available, not putting addicts in jail for drug possession, but usually it wakes up fear mongers and their media campaigns screaming "you go easy on drug addicts they'll come to your schools and stab your children with needles, there will be an aids everywhere and if you allow people to have guns they will start shooting each other in the streets and giving guns to their children to  play with."

First of all, before adopting such dangerous laws, one must think whether this will be useful for your children.
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Drug legalization would be good thing on developed countries. Lets say you have a chance on Asian countries to legaliza drugs, can you imagine the whole process?

Many of the developed nations have already legalized soft drugs. It has been hugely beneficial, by cutting down the drug-related crime, increasing the tax revenue, and creating more jobs. The developing countries (especially those in Asia) can also try the same. Not just drugs, but prostitution also must be legalized.

Euh... No?
I mean maybe we don't have the same definition of "many" but what countries did that?
There is... Netherlands ok, few states in USA... Spain maybe?
And that's all folks, whole Europe is more or less opposed to legalization anyway...
Don't mistake the leaders with the whole Europe. We as people don't have much influence despite democracy flag that each country uses to cover their actions.
To give you an example I would vote for a party that would openly state they want to legalize drugs and give people more freedom, but there are no such parties. People are so afraid of the conservative majority that they don't even say such things before the elections or they'd get laughed at by their opponents.
Once in a few years someone comes up with a smart idea like making guns more available, not putting addicts in jail for drug possession, but usually it wakes up fear mongers and their media campaigns screaming "you go easy on drug addicts they'll come to your schools and stab your children with needles, there will be an aids everywhere and if you allow people to have guns they will start shooting each other in the streets and giving guns to their children to  play with."
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Probably because some of the drugs will get people way to high, then the high people will do stupid things that won't end well for them or others.

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Drug legalization would be good thing on developed countries. Lets say you have a chance on Asian countries to legaliza drugs, can you imagine the whole process?

Many of the developed nations have already legalized soft drugs. It has been hugely beneficial, by cutting down the drug-related crime, increasing the tax revenue, and creating more jobs. The developing countries (especially those in Asia) can also try the same. Not just drugs, but prostitution also must be legalized.

Euh... No?
I mean maybe we don't have the same definition of "many" but what countries did that?
There is... Netherlands ok, few states in USA... Spain maybe?
And that's all folks, whole Europe is more or less opposed to legalization anyway...
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Drug legalization would be good thing on developed countries. Lets say you have a chance on Asian countries to legaliza drugs, can you imagine the whole process?

Many of the developed nations have already legalized soft drugs. It has been hugely beneficial, by cutting down the drug-related crime, increasing the tax revenue, and creating more jobs. The developing countries (especially those in Asia) can also try the same. Not just drugs, but prostitution also must be legalized.

This will not lead to anything good. Thus, society only degrades. It is necessary to adopt laws that are more useful for the society that will transfer it to a new level of development.
I guess there would be a dedicated department for that. IT's becoming toxic because of the things that are happening to them, whether by prostitution or by drug related things that are around us. I don't think the majority will agree to it though.
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Drug legalization would be good thing on developed countries. Lets say you have a chance on Asian countries to legaliza drugs, can you imagine the whole process?

Many of the developed nations have already legalized soft drugs. It has been hugely beneficial, by cutting down the drug-related crime, increasing the tax revenue, and creating more jobs. The developing countries (especially those in Asia) can also try the same. Not just drugs, but prostitution also must be legalized.

This will not lead to anything good. Thus, society only degrades. It is necessary to adopt laws that are more useful for the society that will transfer it to a new level of development.
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Drug legalization would be good thing on developed countries. Lets say you have a chance on Asian countries to legaliza drugs, can you imagine the whole process?

Many of the developed nations have already legalized soft drugs. It has been hugely beneficial, by cutting down the drug-related crime, increasing the tax revenue, and creating more jobs. The developing countries (especially those in Asia) can also try the same. Not just drugs, but prostitution also must be legalized.
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Have you ever felt a gun pointed at your head by a trembling hand of some junkie? I'm not conservative I just felt the consequencies of drug addiction on myself. Of course people do terrible things without any drugs. But I believe that if any chemical substance has a negative psychopharmaceutical effect powerful enough to alternate one's personality to the point of posing a hazard to other people's and one's own life and wellbeing, it should be regulated by the law and healthcare standards. It is a personal choice to take drugs but a drug addict doesn't feel responsibility for his/her actions and it's not about education or personal morals - those terms don't exist when you need another fix.

The problem is, all substances don't affect all people the same way. And any substance can be addictive, and harmful as well. Seen plenty of people addicted to McDonalds, to the point of harm (poor health, not just weight but poor nutrition  outcomes. Becuase of this fee, would it be okay to deny the whole something that actually may help them? The fries are delicious, they never hurt anyone.

Oh, and plenty of people can point a gun at your head, you don't need drugs as a motive. Could be a crazy, a scorned lover, or a rival. People and guns and all that, you now the saying.
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Have you ever felt a gun pointed at your head by a trembling hand of some junkie? I'm not conservative I just felt the consequencies of drug addiction on myself. Of course people do terrible things without any drugs. But I believe that if any chemical substance has a negative psychopharmaceutical effect powerful enough to alternate one's personality to the point of posing a hazard to other people's and one's own life and wellbeing, it should be regulated by the law and healthcare standards. It is a personal choice to take drugs but a drug addict doesn't feel responsibility for his/her actions and it's not about education or personal morals - those terms don't exist when you need another fix.
I feel you. It's true, and that moment it could cause a lot of mental implications in your head, and you would start thinking all about it, and you would not forget the traumatic experience with that. In a typical situation, you shouldn't feel like that, but you do, just because of that experience. I don't know why they have to do that but probably they are desperate, and I hope they get themselves clean and not commit crimes.
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Most conservatives or right-wings worldwide oppose psychoatives legalization, why such unanimity on this topic? I find it strange that there is such a consensus. Do you know why?

Personnally I don't know. They pretend to be for individual liberty/responsability while honoring for most westerners the so called freedom, but in fact are more like zealous little control freaks closer to ISIS in their way of thinking...

Only Libertarians get the concept of ownership of the body by the individual... it goes to whatever-sex to abortion to "drugs".


Most people, not just conservatives repeat what they are told. They also believe whats on the TV and what politicians tell them. Even though those same sources have been proven time and time again to lie. I think this is a problem with people. Most cannot or will not think for themselves. Perhaps they are too stupid or too lazy or too busy to do so. It's probably a combination of all of those factors.

Its completely logical to legalize and control all drugs.
1) the government makes money
2) the government saves money
3) the government helps addicts with some of the money that is made and saved.

Why are drugs still illegal? Because criminals have been running things for a very long time.

Let's take the Philippines as an example. The drug lords (according to their president) are the police chiefs from various districts. People working in their government are in on the take. Then they go out and murder the people that they have caused to have addictions.. crazy right?

Evil people run shit because they will do anything to remain in power. You can not stop them and this will keep happening.

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Drug legalization would be good thing on developed countries. Lets say you have a chance on Asian countries to legaliza drugs, can you imagine the whole process?
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Drug legalization would be suicidal.

It will have adverse effect on the people , the vulnerable and people who are not in position to administer drugs would be the most gullible.
The disadvantages of drugs legalization are much and euthanasia is one of such.
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I'm certainly not a supporter of conspiracy theories, but sometimes it seems to me that someone specifically sends the world into the abyss. The company behind the drug legalization goes around the world and this is no accident. They have some body and there are precedents of legalization.

Yes, all this is done by a secret world government. It also has thought up narcotics to look over weaklings which themselves will destroy and rot alive.
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I'm certainly not a supporter of conspiracy theories, but sometimes it seems to me that someone specifically sends the world into the abyss. The company behind the drug legalization goes around the world and this is no accident. They have some body and there are precedents of legalization.
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Do not forget that your statistics are not taken into account death from AIDS, murder with the robberies committed by drug addicts to a traffic accident. I think that if you consider these factors then the victory will be for the drug.

HIV is caused by addiction to hard drugs, such as Heroin. Among those who use weed and mushrooms, there is no HIV epidemic. You need to compare soft drugs with alcohol. I also don't support the proliferation of the hard drugs.
After the use of mushrooms the person can have hallucinations and they can lead to unpredictable consequences both for the person and for others. I'm against drugs.
Are you against alcohol too? Using it can cause hallucinations and can be dangerous to the drinker and people around him. Mushrooms and weed don't make people aggressive, but alcohol does.
Another question: why should we limit the ability of other people to use any substance they want? If they want to hallucinate why would you try to stop them? It's not your body and not your life.

This is it! Excessive coffee makes people aggressive too! And specifically why it's mainly a conservative consensus? Why this will to restrict other people freedom (or choices) which doesn't affect them (abortion, whateversex, drugs)?

I'm all for personal freedom and freedom of choice as long as it doesn't pose a threat to me personally. A someone's abortion is not dangerous to anyone but the person herself or whateversex in this matter. But a hallucinating (by choice) person can be dangerous to those who surround him/her.

Yes, if some funds can harm others, then they can not be legalized. Alcohol should also be banned, because many strangers suffer because of it.
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Do not forget that your statistics are not taken into account death from AIDS, murder with the robberies committed by drug addicts to a traffic accident. I think that if you consider these factors then the victory will be for the drug.

HIV is caused by addiction to hard drugs, such as Heroin. Among those who use weed and mushrooms, there is no HIV epidemic. You need to compare soft drugs with alcohol. I also don't support the proliferation of the hard drugs.
After the use of mushrooms the person can have hallucinations and they can lead to unpredictable consequences both for the person and for others. I'm against drugs.
Are you against alcohol too? Using it can cause hallucinations and can be dangerous to the drinker and people around him. Mushrooms and weed don't make people aggressive, but alcohol does.
Another question: why should we limit the ability of other people to use any substance they want? If they want to hallucinate why would you try to stop them? It's not your body and not your life.

This is it! Excessive coffee makes people aggressive too! And specifically why it's mainly a conservative consensus? Why this will to restrict other people freedom (or choices) which doesn't affect them (abortion, whateversex, drugs)?

I'm all for personal freedom and freedom of choice as long as it doesn't pose a threat to me personally. A someone's abortion is not dangerous to anyone but the person herself or whateversex in this matter. But a hallucinating (by choice) person can be dangerous to those who surround him/her.
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Hmm... that's possible. Although we've seen marijuana legalized in some states already, maybe others would follow eventually? I don't know if weed will cause brain damage in the long run but it seems that it don't cause people to commit crime on the scale that meth does. If it can be used as a "soft" drug to prevent people from using the "hard" ones, than I'm in favor of its legalization.

There is no scientific proof for the argument that the usage of marijuana results in brain damage. Humans have been using marijuana for many thousands of years, and according to the experts the positive benefits of marijuana outweigh the negatives by a wide margin.

Well if that's the case, then legalize it. It probably wouldn't be as bad as the opium that caused China problem, right? (Ironically the Chinese are heavily-invested in drugs in Asia.) Are there already any research if people using marijuana develop tolerance, like what happens when using most drugs?
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