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Quote from: BADecker on May 15, 2019, 08:39:38 PM

^^^ What kind of nonsense are you trying to say? You are essentially saying that if there are 99 killers, and 1 who never killed anyone, that the 1 is a killer, as well, even if he never killed.

N.T. expression of killing was never by a command of God, or in a command of one of God's N.T. prophets, nor do we have even one example of a Christian killing... in the N.T.

It's either that you are ignorant, or that you have bad faith.

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''Acts 12:23
And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.''

''Detailed in the passages where God sends four horsemen (Revelation 6:1-7), commands the angels to sound seven trumpets (Revelation 8:7-11:15), commands the angels to unleash seven plagues (Revelation 16:2-17). Finally the Great Beast, his False Prophet and all non-saved are cast into a Lake of Fire.''

God himself sent others to kill people, you only have to read it, you seem confused...

However, it never talks about others doing any of the killing without God. And maybe even with Him. How is that? Because God is almighty. Anything that anyone does is really done by God, because it is God Who does everything. He has the right, because He is owner. You simply don't understand the gracious goodness of God. See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51050551.

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''Anything that anyone does is really done by God, because it is God Who does everything.'' So it's god's fault then when people go to hell.

^^^ Again, you forgot the part that the loving God perfectly does what people ask. "Ask and it will be given you, seek and you will find, knock and the door will be opened to you." Stop being so ambiguous in your requests so that you will ask only for the things that you really want, and get them.

It's God's doing when people go to Hell, by giving them what they asked for... absence of God holding them out of Hell.

Just push Him a little more. Just a little further. He'll let go of you if you really want Him to. But don't doubt. Really want it, and really ask Him for it... and really enjoy the pain when you get it.

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An all loving god would not make hell in the first place, 5 year old would understand that. What's the purpose of hell? Torture people forever for... what? No point, senseless, only a retard would think that makes any sense.

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People who wrote this mythology were retards by today's standard. Walked around with burlap around their neck, barefoot, wiped their ass with leaves, and hopped/praying for the Sun to come up the next day.

People who these books were intended for were probably another 40 IQ points lower, slightly higher than chimpanzees.

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Quote from: Astargath on May 15, 2019, 11:18:58 AM

Quote from: Astargath on May 15, 2019, 11:18:58 AM

^^^ What kind of nonsense are you trying to say? You are essentially saying that if there are 99 killers, and 1 who never killed anyone, that the 1 is a killer, as well, even if he never killed.

N.T. expression of killing was never by a command of God, or in a command of one of God's N.T. prophets, nor do we have even one example of a Christian killing... in the N.T.

It's either that you are ignorant, or that you have bad faith.

Most grocery stores in most countries sell some form of coffee. Get some coffee, so that you can perk up a pot of it, and wake up and smell the coffee.

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''Acts 12:23
And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.''

''Detailed in the passages where God sends four horsemen (Revelation 6:1-7), commands the angels to sound seven trumpets (Revelation 8:7-11:15), commands the angels to unleash seven plagues (Revelation 16:2-17). Finally the Great Beast, his False Prophet and all non-saved are cast into a Lake of Fire.''

God himself sent others to kill people, you only have to read it, you seem confused...

However, it never talks about others doing any of the killing without God. And maybe even with Him. How is that? Because God is almighty. Anything that anyone does is really done by God, because it is God Who does everything. He has the right, because He is owner. You simply don't understand the gracious goodness of God. See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51050551.

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''Anything that anyone does is really done by God, because it is God Who does everything.'' So it's god's fault then when people go to hell.

^^^ Again, you forgot the part that the loving God perfectly does what people ask. "Ask and it will be given you, seek and you will find, knock and the door will be opened to you." Stop being so ambiguous in your requests so that you will ask only for the things that you really want, and get them.

It's God's doing when people go to Hell, by giving them what they asked for... absence of God holding them out of Hell.

Just push Him a little more. Just a little further. He'll let go of you if you really want Him to. But don't doubt. Really want it, and really ask Him for it... and really enjoy the pain when you get it.

Cool

An all loving god would not make hell in the first place, 5 year old would understand that. What's the purpose of hell? Torture people forever for... what? No point, senseless, only a retard would think that makes any sense.

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^^^ What kind of nonsense are you trying to say? You are essentially saying that if there are 99 killers, and 1 who never killed anyone, that the 1 is a killer, as well, even if he never killed.

N.T. expression of killing was never by a command of God, or in a command of one of God's N.T. prophets, nor do we have even one example of a Christian killing... in the N.T.

It's either that you are ignorant, or that you have bad faith.

Most grocery stores in most countries sell some form of coffee. Get some coffee, so that you can perk up a pot of it, and wake up and smell the coffee.

Cool

''Acts 12:23
And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.''

''Detailed in the passages where God sends four horsemen (Revelation 6:1-7), commands the angels to sound seven trumpets (Revelation 8:7-11:15), commands the angels to unleash seven plagues (Revelation 16:2-17). Finally the Great Beast, his False Prophet and all non-saved are cast into a Lake of Fire.''

God himself sent others to kill people, you only have to read it, you seem confused...

However, it never talks about others doing any of the killing without God. And maybe even with Him. How is that? Because God is almighty. Anything that anyone does is really done by God, because it is God Who does everything. He has the right, because He is owner. You simply don't understand the gracious goodness of God. See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51050551.

Cool

''Anything that anyone does is really done by God, because it is God Who does everything.'' So it's god's fault then when people go to hell.

^^^ Again, you forgot the part that the loving God perfectly does what people ask. "Ask and it will be given you, seek and you will find, knock and the door will be opened to you." Stop being so ambiguous in your requests so that you will ask only for the things that you really want, and get them.

It's God's doing when people go to Hell, by giving them what they asked for... absence of God holding them out of Hell.

Just push Him a little more. Just a little further. He'll let go of you if you really want Him to. But don't doubt. Really want it, and really ask Him for it... and really enjoy the pain when you get it.

Cool

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Quote from: Spendulus on May 15, 2019, 06:58:24 AM

^^^ What kind of nonsense are you trying to say? You are essentially saying that if there are 99 killers, and 1 who never killed anyone, that the 1 is a killer, as well, even if he never killed.

N.T. expression of killing was never by a command of God, or in a command of one of God's N.T. prophets, nor do we have even one example of a Christian killing... in the N.T.

It's either that you are ignorant, or that you have bad faith.

Most grocery stores in most countries sell some form of coffee. Get some coffee, so that you can perk up a pot of it, and wake up and smell the coffee.

Cool

''Acts 12:23
And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.''

''Detailed in the passages where God sends four horsemen (Revelation 6:1-7), commands the angels to sound seven trumpets (Revelation 8:7-11:15), commands the angels to unleash seven plagues (Revelation 16:2-17). Finally the Great Beast, his False Prophet and all non-saved are cast into a Lake of Fire.''

God himself sent others to kill people, you only have to read it, you seem confused...

However, it never talks about others doing any of the killing without God. And maybe even with Him. How is that? Because God is almighty. Anything that anyone does is really done by God, because it is God Who does everything. He has the right, because He is owner. You simply don't understand the gracious goodness of God. See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51050551.

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''Anything that anyone does is really done by God, because it is God Who does everything.'' So it's god's fault then when people go to hell.

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Quote from: Spendulus on May 14, 2019, 07:42:39 AM

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''Acts 12:23
And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.''

''Detailed in the passages where God sends four horsemen (Revelation 6:1-7), commands the angels to sound seven trumpets (Revelation 8:7-11:15), commands the angels to unleash seven plagues (Revelation 16:2-17). Finally the Great Beast, his False Prophet and all non-saved are cast into a Lake of Fire.''

God himself sent others to kill people, you only have to read it, you seem confused...

You are correct in part. I had forgotten about certain parts of the NT. Well then, you explain it. Christians en mass do not follow written directives to violence that may be found in their old "holy books."

Then they are hypocrites, why worship a book that has clear rules commanded by god and not follow them? If you think they are wrong, why are you following the book then? Is god wrong then? Illogical.

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Quote from: haseeb ahmed on May 14, 2019, 07:13:02 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on May 12, 2019, 05:18:53 PM

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Okay, let's examine this assertion. I don't know if it's true or not. "Wars are made to sell weapons."

It's certainly not true of WW1 or WW2. Or the Korean War. Vietnam, not sure. Wars in South Africa, not true. American Civil War, not true.

Is there historical evidence that in certain wars this is true?

time has changed now its 21st century. now money is everything and everyone is just thinking about money and earning profit and neglecting the fact where money comes from. They dont give a damn about whether money is coming from weapons, smuggling, human trafficking or prostitution they just want money.

It's rather odd to claim that money is everything, on a forum about bitcoin, a virtual currency supported by volunteers.

However I assume you mean in the arena of geopolitics.

power and money are two things interconnected to each other and world is running behind it specially big businesses

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''Acts 12:23
And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.''

''Detailed in the passages where God sends four horsemen (Revelation 6:1-7), commands the angels to sound seven trumpets (Revelation 8:7-11:15), commands the angels to unleash seven plagues (Revelation 16:2-17). Finally the Great Beast, his False Prophet and all non-saved are cast into a Lake of Fire.''

God himself sent others to kill people, you only have to read it, you seem confused...

You are correct in part. I had forgotten about certain parts of the NT. Well then, you explain it. Christians en mass do not follow written directives to violence that may be found in their old "holy books."

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^^^ What kind of nonsense are you trying to say? You are essentially saying that if there are 99 killers, and 1 who never killed anyone, that the 1 is a killer, as well, even if he never killed.

N.T. expression of killing was never by a command of God, or in a command of one of God's N.T. prophets, nor do we have even one example of a Christian killing... in the N.T.

It's either that you are ignorant, or that you have bad faith.

Most grocery stores in most countries sell some form of coffee. Get some coffee, so that you can perk up a pot of it, and wake up and smell the coffee.

Cool

''Acts 12:23
And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.''

''Detailed in the passages where God sends four horsemen (Revelation 6:1-7), commands the angels to sound seven trumpets (Revelation 8:7-11:15), commands the angels to unleash seven plagues (Revelation 16:2-17). Finally the Great Beast, his False Prophet and all non-saved are cast into a Lake of Fire.''

God himself sent others to kill people, you only have to read it, you seem confused...

However, it never talks about others doing any of the killing without God. And maybe even with Him. How is that? Because God is almighty. Anything that anyone does is really done by God, because it is God Who does everything. He has the right, because He is owner. You simply don't understand the gracious goodness of God. See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51050551.

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I think everything has always been about the subject of religion, religion for them represents everything, that is, those who do not practice ISLAM are profane or those who do not deserve to be in the kingdom of Allah.

This is the most radical level of religion that can be carried out of people, according to them Allah will not accept those who are not in ISLAM and who do not follow it, therefore the best thing to be in the kingdom of Allah is that die as martyrs and thus reach the kingdom of Allah.

This religion has always allowed to make and undo the most deplorable events in the history of mankind, that is why in my personal opinion, I respect all religions, because everyone lives according to their beliefs, you can never go against them. what a practitioner of Islam says because you run a high risk of being killed ... Islam interpreted for many followers is usually that way.

I am not a student of Islam but your hatred towards others is because you do not think in agreement as they do, since for them the only religion that exists and is the real one is ISLAM.

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Quote from: Spendulus on May 13, 2019, 08:19:37 PM

^^^ What kind of nonsense are you trying to say? You are essentially saying that if there are 99 killers, and 1 who never killed anyone, that the 1 is a killer, as well, even if he never killed.

N.T. expression of killing was never by a command of God, or in a command of one of God's N.T. prophets, nor do we have even one example of a Christian killing... in the N.T.

It's either that you are ignorant, or that you have bad faith.

Most grocery stores in most countries sell some form of coffee. Get some coffee, so that you can perk up a pot of it, and wake up and smell the coffee.

Cool

''Acts 12:23
And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.''

''Detailed in the passages where God sends four horsemen (Revelation 6:1-7), commands the angels to sound seven trumpets (Revelation 8:7-11:15), commands the angels to unleash seven plagues (Revelation 16:2-17). Finally the Great Beast, his False Prophet and all non-saved are cast into a Lake of Fire.''

God himself sent others to kill people, you only have to read it, you seem confused...

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^^^ What kind of nonsense are you trying to say? You are essentially saying that if there are 99 killers, and 1 who never killed anyone, that the 1 is a killer, as well, even if he never killed.

N.T. expression of killing was never by a command of God, or in a command of one of God's N.T. prophets, nor do we have even one example of a Christian killing... in the N.T.

It's either that you are ignorant, or that you have bad faith.

Most grocery stores in most countries sell some form of coffee. Get some coffee, so that you can perk up a pot of it, and wake up and smell the coffee.

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Quote from: Astargath on May 13, 2019, 12:22:34 PM

Quote from: haseeb ahmed on May 14, 2019, 07:13:02 AM

I believe no religion actually preaches hate or has hatred or killings in his holy books but just that some religion and your case sample have a lot of extremist and fanatic, who want to comply everyone to their religion. I have quite meant a few Muslims who showed me love beyond my imagination and they will let you know thats what the holy book preached. But i also think its two various sects in Islam that raises the eye bras

Actually the bible and the quran both literally tell you to kill people, it's literally written in both books, clearly with no interpretation or anything, in fact both gods from both books killed people, god himself got rid of 99.999% of earth's population with the flood.

This argument comes up repeatedly. In fact it's like one of the top ten sham arguments that "Christianity is no better than Islam."

The simple reason it is a sham is that Christians do not follow Old Testmanent directives advocating violence. End of subject.

Extremist Islamics do follow such directives. Arguably, rank and file Muslims do not or follow it in a more limited sense - restricting themselves to stoning gays, adulterers, apostates, or otherwise repressing, jailing or killing them. Regardless, this is not comparable to the method and extent to which Christians ignore silly violent nonsense in their old books.

Wrong argument: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Examples_of_God_personally_killing_people#New_Testament_killings_by_God

The new testament includes a lot of killing too, even if it didn't it's a horrible argument to mention that only the old testament included god commanding people to kill others.

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Quote from: Spendulus on May 12, 2019, 05:18:53 PM

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Okay, let's examine this assertion. I don't know if it's true or not. "Wars are made to sell weapons."

It's certainly not true of WW1 or WW2. Or the Korean War. Vietnam, not sure. Wars in South Africa, not true. American Civil War, not true.

Is there historical evidence that in certain wars this is true?

time has changed now its 21st century. now money is everything and everyone is just thinking about money and earning profit and neglecting the fact where money comes from. They dont give a damn about whether money is coming from weapons, smuggling, human trafficking or prostitution they just want money.

It's rather odd to claim that money is everything, on a forum about bitcoin, a virtual currency supported by volunteers.

However I assume you mean in the arena of geopolitics.

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Quote from: Spendulus on May 13, 2019, 08:19:37 PM

Quote from: Astargath on May 13, 2019, 12:22:34 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on May 12, 2019, 05:18:53 PM

I believe no religion actually preaches hate or has hatred or killings in his holy books but just that some religion and your case sample have a lot of extremist and fanatic, who want to comply everyone to their religion. I have quite meant a few Muslims who showed me love beyond my imagination and they will let you know thats what the holy book preached. But i also think its two various sects in Islam that raises the eye bras

Actually the bible and the quran both literally tell you to kill people, it's literally written in both books, clearly with no interpretation or anything, in fact both gods from both books killed people, god himself got rid of 99.999% of earth's population with the flood.

This argument comes up repeatedly. In fact it's like one of the top ten sham arguments that "Christianity is no better than Islam."

The simple reason it is a sham is that Christians do not follow Old Testmanent directives advocating violence. End of subject.

Extremist Islamics do follow such directives. Arguably, rank and file Muslims do not or follow it in a more limited sense - restricting themselves to stoning gays, adulterers, apostates, or otherwise repressing, jailing or killing them. Regardless, this is not comparable to the method and extent to which Christians ignore silly violent nonsense in their old books.

Just as you say. Yet, Muslims are a ticking time bomb, or better, old dynamite that is sweating out nitro. You never know what they will do if they are called on, by their clerics, to become violent, because it is in the Islamic writings.

But because it is not in the Christian writings, true Christians might only become violent for the same reasons that anybody might... self defense.

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Quote from: haseeb ahmed on May 10, 2019, 03:06:55 AM

Quote from: BADecker on May 09, 2019, 07:41:38 AM

Quote from: haseeb ahmed on May 08, 2019, 02:52:01 PM

same is my question who is supporting those terror organisations, how could they get access to such automatic weapons and who is selling such expensive weaponsto them and earning huge sum out of it. Why don’t you accepting that it’s a game of money, power and politics.

You can get knowledge of how to make weapons all over the place. Even if you don't find the direct knowledge, all you need is the basic info and a little imagination. Check out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCPTxUMHq3U at https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=slam+gun.

In the Vietnam era, Vietnamese soldiers and common people made watches and detonators out of the food tin cans the Americans left behind.

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than you don’t know the difference between a food tin made weapon and automatic machine guns fire thousands of rounds per minute. Admit it now wars are made to sell weapons

Okay, let's examine this assertion. I don't know if it's true or not. "Wars are made to sell weapons."

It's certainly not true of WW1 or WW2. Or the Korean War. Vietnam, not sure. Wars in South Africa, not true. American Civil War, not true.

Is there historical evidence that in certain wars this is true?

time has changed now its 21st century. now money is everything and everyone is just thinking about money and earning profit and neglecting the fact where money comes from. They dont give a damn about whether money is coming from weapons, smuggling, human trafficking or prostitution they just want money.

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Quote from: Astargath on May 13, 2019, 12:22:34 PM

I believe no religion actually preaches hate or has hatred or killings in his holy books but just that some religion and your case sample have a lot of extremist and fanatic, who want to comply everyone to their religion. I have quite meant a few Muslims who showed me love beyond my imagination and they will let you know thats what the holy book preached. But i also think its two various sects in Islam that raises the eye bras

Actually the bible and the quran both literally tell you to kill people, it's literally written in both books, clearly with no interpretation or anything, in fact both gods from both books killed people, god himself got rid of 99.999% of earth's population with the flood.

This argument comes up repeatedly. In fact it's like one of the top ten sham arguments that "Christianity is no better than Islam."

The simple reason it is a sham is that Christians do not follow Old Testmanent directives advocating violence. End of subject.

Extremist Islamics do follow such directives. Arguably, rank and file Muslims do not or follow it in a more limited sense - restricting themselves to stoning gays, adulterers, apostates, or otherwise repressing, jailing or killing them. Regardless, this is not comparable to the method and extent to which Christians ignore silly violent nonsense in their old books.

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