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Quote from: SyGambler on November 12, 2017, 08:06:16 PM

so I have asked myself this question a thousand time , some bitcoin gambling sites are having great success but yet we fail to see a single good poker room after seals with clubs stopped ( wasn't that good but comparing it with these times it was great )

we see thousands of bitcoins being gambled daily on sites like primedice , betkings , nitrogen ...etc but yet we don't have a single succeful poker site ( nitrogen room isn't good especially with that software they are using )

why the sites admins here aren't going for that ?? bitcoin poker can destroy all the big sites

I see a lot of poker pros like Dougpolk , Kevin Martin , Mike McDonald ...etc are investing in bitcoin and other crypto so even big players will tend to play more bitcoin poker if there are some active sites

I hope to hear from the admins of the big sites as well , like stunna and dooglus
is it hard to launch a poker site ??

As per my knowledge Poker sites are mostly played by players who are playing strategically but the earning is low but in dice and casino games the winning is high but same time loosing is also high. Players are not seeing the risk involved in dice and casino but they want to earn high with small investment and in short time , but in poker earning is good but low and risk is also low. Fortunejack was having poker games which was very good but what happened dont know it got closed it. Nitrogen poker site is rigid , as i have played so many times and i think it is manipulated by its developer as i think they are playing their bot in the table which scam the users and most of the time end up in full loss.

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Quote from: SyGambler on November 12, 2017, 08:06:16 PM

so I have asked myself this question a thousand time , some bitcoin gambling sites are having great success but yet we fail to see a single good poker room after seals with clubs stopped ( wasn't that good but comparing it with these times it was great )

we see thousands of bitcoins being gambled daily on sites like primedice , betkings , nitrogen ...etc but yet we don't have a single succeful poker site ( nitrogen room isn't good especially with that software they are using )

why the sites admins here aren't going for that ?? bitcoin poker can destroy all the big sites

I see a lot of poker pros like Dougpolk , Kevin Martin , Mike McDonald ...etc are investing in bitcoin and other crypto so even big players will tend to play more bitcoin poker if there are some active sites

I hope to hear from the admins of the big sites as well , like stunna and dooglus
is it hard to launch a poker site ??

I agree.
I know that Americas card room support cryptocurrencies, but I also know that they convert it right after to fiat, so I won't consider themself as crypto friendly site.
We need a site that offers Only bitcoin poker, with low house edge, good system, and blinds are being paid with mbtc( not with usd as america
s card room do).

I think that cryptocurrencies could bring poker into countries where gambling is prohibited, it could open a new gate for new users.

We have low active player , the whole fiat poker player itself might much more than the whole bitcoin community.
So no wonder whenever there is a bitcoin poker player push hard their promotion to attract more players , it is always failed.
Look at nitrogen poker , first month , second month they have a lot of active player but now? After long time enough i cannot see there is a lot of people enough play actively .

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Quote from: npredtorch on November 14, 2017, 04:57:04 PM

The reason I could see is that (1) poker is a user based game and (2) it require knowledge and skills to start/win with it.
What I observed with new poker sites are, they tend to have difficulties in finding loyal users that will stay up and playing for a long time. In result, the site is already dead even it's just days from when they started out.

I agree with first reason but not second. Yes it requires knowledge, but i am sure that lots of gamblers know how to play it, so it can't be the reason why there's almost no bitcoin poker. In my opinion it is like that because poker games usually are time consuming if you try to actually win instead of using "all in' strategy.

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How about introduce Dan Bilzerian https://www.instagram.com/danbilzerian/?hl=en to gambling with bitcoin ?
I'm guess that he will take the lead as the best poker player on bitcoin industry but I think it's difficult to convince him since bitcoin still a new technology for him, IMO

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Quote from: SyGambler on November 12, 2017, 08:06:16 PM

so I have asked myself this question a thousand time , some bitcoin gambling sites are having great success but yet we fail to see a single good poker room after seals with clubs stopped ( wasn't that good but comparing it with these times it was great )

we see thousands of bitcoins being gambled daily on sites like primedice , betkings , nitrogen ...etc but yet we don't have a single succeful poker site ( nitrogen room isn't good especially with that software they are using )

why the sites admins here aren't going for that ?? bitcoin poker can destroy all the big sites

I see a lot of poker pros like Dougpolk , Kevin Martin , Mike McDonald ...etc are investing in bitcoin and other crypto so even big players will tend to play more bitcoin poker if there are some active sites

I hope to hear from the admins of the big sites as well , like stunna and dooglus
is it hard to launch a poker site ??

I agree.
I know that Americas card room support cryptocurrencies, but I also know that they convert it right after to fiat, so I won't consider themself as crypto friendly site.
We need a site that offers Only bitcoin poker, with low house edge, good system, and blinds are being paid with mbtc( not with usd as america
s card room do).

I think that cryptocurrencies could bring poker into countries where gambling is prohibited, it could open a new gate for new users.

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Quote from: polymerbatt on November 15, 2017, 03:16:36 AM

Personally nitrogensports is the best bitcoin poker so far, they have many players here especially at night, so many big players here at night with high buy-in. Well, bitcoin poker is not big and the players too are not to many like casino players or dice players. Most of bitcoin gambler are on sportsbook and casino.

Well that's probably right considering that there aren't that much good poker sites. Though if you're not really that keen on specifics and just want to enjoy poker for the sake of playing, then there are many crypto based poker sites out there to choose from

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You dont have to be affected about poker.if you really dont like the game settings or the way poker has going here in crypto.try to play other games,besides this community offers lots of kinds of casino games.you can choose one that can replace that NOT GOOD POKER as what you are saying

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Quote from: SyGambler on November 12, 2017, 08:06:16 PM

so I have asked myself this question a thousand time , some bitcoin gambling sites are having great success but yet we fail to see a single good poker room after seals with clubs stopped ( wasn't that good but comparing it with these times it was great )

we see thousands of bitcoins being gambled daily on sites like primedice , betkings , nitrogen ...etc but yet we don't have a single succeful poker site ( nitrogen room isn't good especially with that software they are using )

why the sites admins here aren't going for that ?? bitcoin poker can destroy all the big sites

I see a lot of poker pros like Dougpolk , Kevin Martin , Mike McDonald ...etc are investing in bitcoin and other crypto so even big players will tend to play more bitcoin poker if there are some active sites

I hope to hear from the admins of the big sites as well , like stunna and dooglus
is it hard to launch a poker site ??

That's because online poker is dead. Even Pokerstars', the biggest online poker site, traffic has been going down over the years. That's because the players have realized that it's easy to play tight ABC poker, and fish are very few now. So as games become tighter, not much money changed hands. Then more and more players lose interest.

Tbh, poker can be quite boring if you have been playing long enough.

I agree, also since newer players have lower chances of winning than those experts at it, the will likely lose a lot and that would mean that they will eventually lose interest in playing the game. There is also no variety that can be had in playing poker, it gets really tiring the longer your play as its just really repetitive. I think this is the reason why there is no one really interested in opening a good poker site.

Actually it's those new players who don't know much about the game is what's needed to keep the poker economy alive. But yeah, they have been losing their money faster these days due to more better players and tight grinders. During the poker boom the fish - reg ratio was so high that all you need to do was play tight ABC poker and you'd win a lot of money for sure.

If that is the case then it is not a sustainable business model for a gambling site. If the poker sites are relying too much on newbies to lose to pro players in poker tables then that means they will end up with only the pro players trying to best each other. Which is not really a lot of players. I guess this will look something like a ponzi scheme now, which actually is just paying those guys who were first to learn the game and feed off the weak new ones.

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Quote from: LuanX3 on November 14, 2017, 12:08:14 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on November 14, 2017, 07:56:39 AM

Quote from: SyGambler on November 12, 2017, 08:06:16 PM

so I have asked myself this question a thousand time , some bitcoin gambling sites are having great success but yet we fail to see a single good poker room after seals with clubs stopped ( wasn't that good but comparing it with these times it was great )

we see thousands of bitcoins being gambled daily on sites like primedice , betkings , nitrogen ...etc but yet we don't have a single succeful poker site ( nitrogen room isn't good especially with that software they are using )

why the sites admins here aren't going for that ?? bitcoin poker can destroy all the big sites

I see a lot of poker pros like Dougpolk , Kevin Martin , Mike McDonald ...etc are investing in bitcoin and other crypto so even big players will tend to play more bitcoin poker if there are some active sites

I hope to hear from the admins of the big sites as well , like stunna and dooglus
is it hard to launch a poker site ??

That's because online poker is dead. Even Pokerstars', the biggest online poker site, traffic has been going down over the years. That's because the players have realized that it's easy to play tight ABC poker, and fish are very few now. So as games become tighter, not much money changed hands. Then more and more players lose interest.

Tbh, poker can be quite boring if you have been playing long enough.

I agree, also since newer players have lower chances of winning than those experts at it, the will likely lose a lot and that would mean that they will eventually lose interest in playing the game. There is also no variety that can be had in playing poker, it gets really tiring the longer your play as its just really repetitive. I think this is the reason why there is no one really interested in opening a good poker site.

Actually it's those new players who don't know much about the game is what's needed to keep the poker economy alive. But yeah, they have been losing their money faster these days due to more better players and tight grinders. During the poker boom the fish - reg ratio was so high that all you need to do was play tight ABC poker and you'd win a lot of money for sure.

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Personally nitrogensports is the best bitcoin poker so far, they have many players here especially at night, so many big players here at night with high buy-in. Well, bitcoin poker is not big and the players too are not to many like casino players or dice players. Most of bitcoin gambler are on sportsbook and casino.

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Quote from: Wendigo on November 14, 2017, 12:47:12 PM

Bitcoin poker sites have very low traffic and are infested with cheaters colluding on a daily basis so it's not worth your time and money trying to have any fun playing on there.

yeah those people who play poker at pokerstars didn't want to move to bitcoin poker based as i can only see at that place the real poker player exist , the rest of it just an occasional player . no wonder there's no good bitcoin poker site as good as pokerstars , don't know if it's still devoloping or not much people wanted it.

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Quote from: npredtorch on November 14, 2017, 04:57:04 PM

The reason I could see is that (1) poker is a user based game and (2) it require knowledge and skills to start/win with it.
What I observed with new poker sites are, they tend to have difficulties in finding loyal users that will stay up and playing for a long time. In result, the site is already dead even it's just days from when they started out.

we haven't seen a single new serious poker site yet , all the new sites that opened in the past were using cheap browser software which you can get for like 500$
that's what I'm talking about and trying to explain , yes almost all the poker sites that launched here failed but did the owner take their business seriously ??

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I also wonder about it, in advance i like playing poker on casino.directbet.eu I can get a pretty good profit there and also only takes a moment to win it. But after their site closed, I felt the loss of one of my legs. I keep looking for poker sites in bitcoin but it's all not up to expectations. Cry

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The reason I could see is that (1) poker is a user based game and (2) it require knowledge and skills to start/win with it.
What I observed with new poker sites are, they tend to have difficulties in finding loyal users that will stay up and playing for a long time. In result, the site is already dead even it's just days from when they started out.

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Bitcoin poker sites have very low traffic and are infested with cheaters colluding on a daily basis so it's not worth your time and money trying to have any fun playing on there.

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Quote from: SyGambler on November 12, 2017, 08:06:16 PM

so I have asked myself this question a thousand time , some bitcoin gambling sites are having great success but yet we fail to see a single good poker room after seals with clubs stopped ( wasn't that good but comparing it with these times it was great )

we see thousands of bitcoins being gambled daily on sites like primedice , betkings , nitrogen ...etc but yet we don't have a single succeful poker site ( nitrogen room isn't good especially with that software they are using )

why the sites admins here aren't going for that ?? bitcoin poker can destroy all the big sites

I see a lot of poker pros like Dougpolk , Kevin Martin , Mike McDonald ...etc are investing in bitcoin and other crypto so even big players will tend to play more bitcoin poker if there are some active sites

I hope to hear from the admins of the big sites as well , like stunna and dooglus
is it hard to launch a poker site ??

That's because online poker is dead. Even Pokerstars', the biggest online poker site, traffic has been going down over the years. That's because the players have realized that it's easy to play tight ABC poker, and fish are very few now. So as games become tighter, not much money changed hands. Then more and more players lose interest.

Tbh, poker can be quite boring if you have been playing long enough.

I agree, also since newer players have lower chances of winning than those experts at it, the will likely lose a lot and that would mean that they will eventually lose interest in playing the game. There is also no variety that can be had in playing poker, it gets really tiring the longer your play as its just really repetitive. I think this is the reason why there is no one really interested in opening a good poker site.

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Quote from: SyGambler on November 12, 2017, 08:06:16 PM

so I have asked myself this question a thousand time , some bitcoin gambling sites are having great success but yet we fail to see a single good poker room after seals with clubs stopped ( wasn't that good but comparing it with these times it was great )

we see thousands of bitcoins being gambled daily on sites like primedice , betkings , nitrogen ...etc but yet we don't have a single succeful poker site ( nitrogen room isn't good especially with that software they are using )

why the sites admins here aren't going for that ?? bitcoin poker can destroy all the big sites

I see a lot of poker pros like Dougpolk , Kevin Martin , Mike McDonald ...etc are investing in bitcoin and other crypto so even big players will tend to play more bitcoin poker if there are some active sites

I hope to hear from the admins of the big sites as well , like stunna and dooglus
is it hard to launch a poker site ??

That's because online poker is dead. Even Pokerstars', the biggest online poker site, traffic has been going down over the years. That's because the players have realized that it's easy to play tight ABC poker, and fish are very few now. So as games become tighter, not much money changed hands. Then more and more players lose interest.

Tbh, poker can be quite boring if you have been playing long enough.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on November 14, 2017, 06:17:56 AM

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Quote from: marlboroza on November 13, 2017, 06:01:16 PM

Not enough players perhaps?

Right, not everyone is interested to play poker or there's not a lot of poker players here in the bitcoin community. On nitrogen's poker cheating can't be avoided, i've been hearing a lot of complaints from different users and their support doesn't seem to care much or don't have any solution to the problem(just my observation).

I also agree on it, that not too much poker players are here in bitcoin gambling sites. The reason is, Not every gambler could handle the poker game, it need skills, people prefer to play other games like dice than poker because in it in less time they could win or lose and play without skills and also not need to use big capital, that's why i am not playing poker.

Without knowing, I would assume a person interested in crypto would have enough about them to play something that at least has the potential to be +ev. Honestly can't understand the mindset of people that play -ev games like roulette etc.. are they just dumb, is that all it is?

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Quote from: ralle14 on November 14, 2017, 01:37:00 AM

Quote from: marlboroza on November 13, 2017, 06:01:16 PM

Not enough players perhaps?

Right, not everyone is interested to play poker or there's not a lot of poker players here in the bitcoin community. On nitrogen's poker cheating can't be avoided, i've been hearing a lot of complaints from different users and their support doesn't seem to care much or don't have any solution to the problem(just my observation).

I also agree on it, that not too much poker players are here in bitcoin gambling sites. The reason is, Not every gambler could handle the poker game, it need skills, people prefer to play other games like dice than poker because in it in less time they could win or lose and play without skills and also not need to use big capital, that's why i am not playing poker.

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Quote from: SyGambler on November 14, 2017, 05:14:08 AM

Quote from: BossMacko on November 14, 2017, 03:00:51 AM

I don't know what is a good poker site in your side, for me nitrogensports and americas card room are a good poker site. I can win on both site if i will choose to leave the table once i x3 my bankroll but no, i kept on playing until i bust everything. If those site are not good to you what is the example of a good poker site for you so that admin can imitate those site if they want to have a poker site. Pokerstars is also a good site but it doesn't have Bitcoin integrated into its system, they have lots of promo and competitions and big prizes in tourney.

Nitrogen poker isn't good with that browser software that they are using , also they need to work more on their games cause it's so hard to find a tournament except like 3 or 4 a day and that's not what a good poker site offers
also they offer 6 and 10 players sit n goes and these like never run , still they aren't offering the heads up sit n go which is so easy to run since it only needs two players , so IMO the managers of nitrogen poker don't know how to run a good poker site

ACR is a great site , but it's a USD site not bitcoin and I'm talking about pure bitcoin poker

for people that are saying lack of players , do you remember seals with clubs ?? at that time bitcoin wasn't even 5% popular like it's now and still we were able to see good bitcoin poker games running

there is no lack of players , people always want to play poker when it's available in a good site

I met few poker players on bitcoin gambling sites and they are playing at fiat sites such as 888, pokerstars, partipoker etc because of reasons I wrote in my post above.
Besides, lots of players are playing multiple tables(I actually know a guy who is playing 8 tables at the same time) and that is something you can't really do in site with 50 active players. (nitrogen has 38 at the moment)

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