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Quote from: coin.trader on May 13, 2017, 09:10:53 AM

I have a curiosity...

In a month on this website all that i saw are gambling discussion, idiot scam accusations and so on...

This topic is about how fair are the casinos...Why do you care? If the fair system is ok or so on...you will lose money legally same shit..

If a casino is fair with what is helping you? When you go to a casino and play on slots you will ask the girls if the bet you did is fair?

There's a huge difference between honest and cheating casino. When you play against cheaters, you are basically throwing away your money, you will be losing much more than you win. But if casino is fair, than you can enjoy the game for longer time, because win/lose ratio will be more balanced. If you know when to stop, you can fixate some profit for future sessions. People should always check everything when it comes to their money, otherwise scammers will flood everything and just ruin our economy.

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Of course we care and I believe that is so selfish if we don't tell if the casino is legit because we have know the feeling of being played by the casino administrations and unless we are a casino staff then we won't tell. But watching others fall and lose all their money just like is unbearable because we know the feeling. We maybe gamblers but we all human first.

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Quote from: coin.trader on May 13, 2017, 09:10:53 AM

I have a curiosity...

In a month on this website all that i saw are gambling discussion, idiot scam accusations and so on...

This topic is about how fair are the casinos...Why do you care? If the fair system is ok or so on...you will lose money legally same shit..

If a casino is fair with what is helping you? When you go to a casino and play on slots you will ask the girls if the bet you did is fair?

Do we, though? Regardless if all these online gambling sites are legit or not, people are still going to bet on them because they have no other place to play at. There's a new coin called the edgeless which is supposed to have a gambling site that have no house edge.

Like you said, it's the same shit. If you already lost your money on some gambling site, you shouldn't waste any more of your time to know if you were fooled or not. There are people saying that gambling sites are rigged because they always lose, but to some, that's just called being unlucky.

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Losing money illegally and losing money legally is two different thing. If a casino is rigged you will lose no matter what. Your luck won't have any effect. On a legit casino, if you have a good luck and you know when to stop you will win. You can verify each and every bet.
Why would people want to lose on a rigged casino rather than losing on a legit one?

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Quote from: piloder on May 19, 2017, 01:06:51 AM

Most of the trusted casino these days provide a way for you to verify each and every roll you make in their casino so that we can be sure casino is not manipulating any results.

Even services which at the first glance had implemented provably fair system can cheat it.
Most people are not technologically literate to find out that there is something wrong with rigged provably fair service.
Example: 999dice.com - I learned that their provably fair system is working only when players actually check out every bet manually.
Otherwise the site can manipulate your bets.

Most gamblers don't know how provably fair system works technically, so they feel confortable to play only by reading "this is a provably fair casino", but maybe it's a false message, maybe the casino isn't provably fair and show fake informations about the bets. Laymen won't understand anyway... I think it's always good to look for news about casinos, so you can know from more experienced people if the casino is really doing a good job or if they are cheating players.

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Quote from: coin.trader on May 13, 2017, 09:10:53 AM

I have a curiosity...

In a month on this website all that i saw are gambling discussion, idiot scam accusations and so on...

This topic is about how fair are the casinos...Why do you care? If the fair system is ok or so on...you will lose money legally same shit..

If a casino is fair with what is helping you? When you go to a casino and play on slots you will ask the girls if the bet you did is fair?

Same reason why I hold the position to believe in chance rather than others who believe in luck and would still raise scam accusation thread when they have an iota that a site is not provably fair or one figure is missing in the amount of possible outcomes. The issue essentially why I care is to be sure that when I lose I want to lose fairly and that is not too much to ask for from the gambling site.

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Quote from: Kevin77 on May 19, 2017, 01:35:30 AM

Quote from: piloder on May 19, 2017, 01:06:51 AM

Most of the trusted casino these days provide a way for you to verify each and every roll you make in their casino so that we can be sure casino is not manipulating any results. We have to keep in mind that playing in provably fair casino doesn't guarantee you winning, you have to be lucky and should be able to manage your bankroll wisely to make exit with some profit.

What about if the total provably fair system itself completely rigged off ? We cannot be sure about anything as most of gamblers are facing only losses. That is the reason OP is coming with the concern of why we need to care about legitimate of casino while choosing them : "loss is the only result then why we need to spend time on studying the legitimate of casinos".

Being lucky and managing bankroll wisely are not possible for any gambler. If it would have been possible, there would be significant people who would have found their life out of gambling profits.

In my opinion the requirements you have mentioned are some consoling reasons to make ourselves mentally accept the losses.

Well, word usually gets out pretty quickly if the provably fair system is flawed, there are numerous threads about that in this forum.
Even if gamblers only lose, it's still unethical to 'rig' the games or have a higher house edge than advertised.

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Quote from: piloder on May 19, 2017, 01:06:51 AM

Most of the trusted casino these days provide a way for you to verify each and every roll you make in their casino so that we can be sure casino is not manipulating any results.

Even services which at the first glance had implemented provably fair system can cheat it.
Most people are not technologically literate to find out that there is something wrong with rigged provably fair service.
Example: 999dice.com - I learned that their provably fair system is working only when players actually check out every bet manually.
Otherwise the site can manipulate your bets.

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Quote from: noone000 on May 14, 2017, 10:51:27 PM

Quote from: uneng on May 14, 2017, 04:11:43 PM

The online casinos are fair, they use provably fair system to show their users they aren't scamming anyone. It's different from real casinos where you go to play. In this case I have no idea if they are legit or not because I don't have access to them where I live.
We need to care about it, because it's our money in risk, if you want to have chances to make profit by gambling you must care about it.

Remember that gambling normally makes people lose and that the house always has the advantage. It's difficult to earn a profit gambling and in the long run you will lose because the house has games that are never in your favor and the odds are against you. I have a question though. Despite having provably fair, how many people bother checking it on a website?

I have seen many of my friends get addicted to the games and they want to get all the amount back one day from the house which they have lost but I don’t think it works because at the end of the day the house wins and no doubt they have to win it because they design the game according to their need so to earn. Not for the others to earn.

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Quote from: swogerino on May 14, 2017, 12:01:03 PM

I care because I want to play in a legit casino. It is not true that we always lose, we may hit a big win one time to cover for all our previous losses and if the casino is not legit will not pay us. I agree with you that most of the time we lose against casinos because they have the house edge and they are designed to make money in the end at the expenses of the users playing there.

Yeah there is always a 50 50 chance of both the losing and winning in the gambling. Most of the people I saw are talking about the loses but I guess many of us don’t gamble for the reason to earn profit but their reason to play is to be entertained and they may win some of the games which can turn their days and can payback all at once with a high win.

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Well, i am not perfectly understand what you want to ask?
But i will tell you, mostly people are playing on these sites who are introducing in bitcointalk. Than we think no doubt these gambling sites are fair, and we are starting to play in these sites.
Also i am playing only 2 or 3 sites, and these have fairly dealing in money.

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Quote from: Kevin77 on May 19, 2017, 01:35:30 AM

Quote from: piloder on May 19, 2017, 01:06:51 AM

Most of the trusted casino these days provide a way for you to verify each and every roll you make in their casino so that we can be sure casino is not manipulating any results. We have to keep in mind that playing in provably fair casino doesn't guarantee you winning, you have to be lucky and should be able to manage your bankroll wisely to make exit with some profit.

What about if the total provably fair system itself completely rigged off ? We cannot be sure about anything as most of gamblers are facing only losses. That is the reason OP is coming with the concern of why we need to care about legitimate of casino while choosing them : "loss is the only result then why we need to spend time on studying the legitimate of casinos".

Being lucky and managing bankroll wisely are not possible for any gambler. If it would have been possible, there would be significant people who would have found their life out of gambling profits.

In my opinion the requirements you have mentioned are some consoling reasons to make ourselves mentally accept the losses.

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Quote from: piloder on May 19, 2017, 01:06:51 AM

Most of the trusted casino these days provide a way for you to verify each and every roll you make in their casino so that we can be sure casino is not manipulating any results. We have to keep in mind that playing in provably fair casino doesn't guarantee you winning, you have to be lucky and should be able to manage your bankroll wisely to make exit with some profit.

What about if the total provably fair system itself completely rigged off ? We cannot be sure about anything as most of gamblers are facing only losses. That is the reason OP is coming with the concern of why we need to care about legitimate of casino while choosing them : "loss is the only result then why we need to spend time on studying the legitimate of casinos".

Being lucky and managing bankroll wisely are not possible for any gambler. If it would have been possible, there would be significant people who would have found their life out of gambling profits.

In my opinion the requirements you have mentioned are some consoling reasons to make ourselves mentally accept the losses.

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Most of the trusted casino these days provide a way for you to verify each and every roll you make in their casino so that we can be sure casino is not manipulating any results. We have to keep in mind that playing in provably fair casino doesn't guarantee you winning, you have to be lucky and should be able to manage your bankroll wisely to make exit with some profit.

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Quote from: LuanX3 on May 19, 2017, 12:19:48 AM

Quote from: marcuslong on May 18, 2017, 11:22:11 AM

People much preferred to play real casino done risking too much in online therefor if they really think that they're not safe in online and it's not fair enough for them as people experience online they encounter 6 or more straight lose not when you are playing on real casino you're about to win alternate or just lose twice only.

What I hate about real casinos is that they really have high house edge compared to what we have here on the online bitcoin gambling sites. Here, it is just 1% but usually in real casinos it is much higher than this. Another thing is that how can you say that slots on the real casinos are really fair?

On casinos, on 100 hands you can get not even a 0.2x bet hand payment. How is this fair? That's what I am talking about people are talking daily about fair. Gambling websites/casinos are not made for us to win, are done for entertaiment.

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Quote from: marcuslong on May 18, 2017, 11:22:11 AM

People much preferred to play real casino done risking too much in online therefor if they really think that they're not safe in online and it's not fair enough for them as people experience online they encounter 6 or more straight lose not when you are playing on real casino you're about to win alternate or just lose twice only.

What I hate about real casinos is that they really have high house edge compared to what we have here on the online bitcoin gambling sites. Here, it is just 1% but usually in real casinos it is much higher than this. Another thing is that how can you say that slots on the real casinos are really fair?

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People much preferred to play real casino done risking too much in online therefor if they really think that they're not safe in online and it's not fair enough for them as people experience online they encounter 6 or more straight lose not when you are playing on real casino you're about to win alternate or just lose twice only.

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Quote from: Angel777 on May 18, 2017, 09:16:18 AM

I care about gambling because it gives profit to those people who want to won in gambling.
They profit if they know how to timing the luck of their day.
When i'm in need I go to gambling for a profit to provide my needs.
I experience that gambling is one way to get money so easy.

That's not true, gambling doesn't give profit to those who want to win, it just gives random people random money, at least if it's fair.

Quote from: coin.trader on May 18, 2017, 11:00:54 AM

Nope. You are idiots because you don't have a point of view. Most of your messages are copy/paste or the same like others ideas.

Referr to reply #52

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Quote from: coin.trader on May 18, 2017, 11:00:54 AM

Nope. You are idiots because you don't have a point of view. Most of your messages are copy/paste or the same like others ideas.

It's great that you ask questions or start a topic here on the forums. But really, if you don't like the answer of people around here then just shut yourself up. There is no point in asking for opinions and you just tell everybody they are idiots for not sharing the same point of view with you.

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Nope. You are idiots because you don't have a point of view. Most of your messages are copy/paste or the same like others ideas.

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