Topic: Why do you want to play on casinos without KYC requirements? - page 5. (Read 778 times)

It all depends on how you look at it. These are more excuses for KYC than measures. Alternative ways to beat these problems can be done. KYC is just the lazy way, with the bonus of profit for casinos when people

1. Money laundering can be reduced without KYC, rather with open and transparent rules before withdrawal, time limits. Etc. KYC is the lazy way of combatting money laundering.
2. Asking for KYC is not a legitimate reason for age proof. Porn is illegal in most countries for underage viewers, yet all you need to do is click "I am over 18 to enter" - why is gambling any different? Most underages do not have the funds to gamble anyway, and you can't use a parents credit card if it's a cryptocurrency casino.
3. Hacks, exploits etc are a part of the internet. Measures should be in place to lock and correspond with the user if there is an exploit or hack, KYC is not needed in this dispute resolution process.
4. Scamming? I don't understand at all as to how KYC prevents scamming between a player and a casino. If anything, it promotes scamming by the casino by holding user balances hostage at the cost of their privacy.
5. If you lose your password, use forgot password. If you lose 2FA, use the backup phrase. If all else fails, contact support and verify in other ways, like signing a message from a deposit address. Ultimately, this is the users responsibility. KYC is not an appropriate measure for this purpose.
6. KYC regulation is up to a certain amount of money in a period of time. Look at Bybit, no KYC users can withdraw up to 2 BTC per day with no limit on deposits.
7. It is up to the user to manage their gambling habits, it is not a sensible measure to reduce gambling addictions.
8. It is up to the user to follow regional gambling restrictions, and regulators to enforce them. Costing privacy for this reason is unacceptable and has never been the way of the internet.


You are storing your identity and your sensitive documents online. That never has and never will be safe. Every internet user has the right to privacy, and KYC-by-default violates that privacy.


I didn't notice until you stated it. If you didn't I would not have noticed. I hope I shed some light on the other side of the coin.

Which is a good decision? I don't know why a lot of gamblers don't want KYC. I understand they are still hesitant about this concept, maybe because of security or because they are concerned about their personal information, but think again: you are connected to the internet and social media platforms; do you think you are safe there? As social media platforms require your personal information, does that contradict most of the pro-KYC casinos' policies? I know there's a lot more concerning about KYC, but try researching the purpose of KYC; you only see the bad side of KYC, not why it's being implemented.

KYC is being implemented to protect the user and the business owner itself. Imagine being anonymous in an online casino and earning a lot of money; don't you think no one will be suspicious of that? KYC serves as a tracker if the gambler is engaging in illicit activity using the online casino, anyway everyone has their own opinion about KYC.

Yup that is what it is, this will never ends because all of us have our own opinion and decisions

KYC verification for me is sacred but I am willing to comply if the casino is for me trusted one.

Non KYC is what I mostly check and yes I have list of them in which I visited everytime I wanted to play.

we can choose whatever we wanted , there are tons of casino there to decide which to play .

If you don't want to provide full identity or KYC, it's best to be a small gambler because you won't be asked to complete KYC in full, but for big gamblers there will usually be suspicion from the casino when the user makes a big deposit so they have to emphasize the user to do KYC. This is to prevent money laundering and other criminal acts, so in fact this will never end to be discussed.

It all comes back to the existing regulatory requirements, which gamblers should avoid if they want to prioritize their privacy so that there are no problems and demand that the casino change the existing regulations and requirements. There is no compulsion for casinos to ask users to play on their site, if they want to play on their site they must comply with existing rules and requirements. I think discussing this there will be no mutual finding of common ground but one of them must understand and give in. 

Someone whose wallet is hacked will be happy if the fund is transferred to an exchange. If he can prove that his wallet has been hacked, the exchange can seize the fund and return it to the victim. This recovery was possible because of centralization. If a fraudster is caught using casinos for money laundering and he is arrested and money returned to his victims, this is the beauty of KYC.

The point is that anything that has advantages will also have disadvantages. KYC will help to reduce the activities of criminals but it also has some consequences. Some people are not criminals and want to maintain privacy, KYC is treating them like criminals. Casinos should have advanced security systems and gamblers should protect their accounts from attacks. People should be given the option of to choose if they want KYC or not and each one should take responsibility for their choice.

I Don't think there is for any reason people think KYC is in evil or that bad but instead they wanted to hide their personality and for me this is respectable .
Protection is indeed , but for people that hates KYC it is their own way of protection(for own reason)
if we are talking small criminals , but in gambling we are mostly talking about bigger criminals those who can afford to spend money and time just to get peoples trust and contentment.
Exactly mate but there is also no assurance that KYC asking site will never scammed or hacked us, because we have seen this happened in the past that a legit casino ending running away with gamblers money .

I am glad this discussion sparked this much discussion, because we need to speak about these thing.

I did not post this thread to discuss the reasons why KYC are evil in so many ways, but rather why you want to gamble on a site without KYC verification.

A lot of people used "privacy" as a reason and I can agree with that, but anonymity also provides "privacy" for criminals and scammers. So, would you rather have "privacy" over some kind of protection that KYC provides?

We have to remember that KYC verification are not without loopholes and criminals exploit that, but it makes things more difficult for the majority of the smaller criminals to bypass it.

The pseudo anonymity of Bitcoin has the same PROs and CONs ....and we know governments hate Crypto currencies because of that, but some protection is better than having nothing at all. (You hate it, until you get scammed or hacked or you lost access to your account) 

Nice topic and a wonderful arrangement of facts. Most of the issues you raised concerning KYC are true but some have been overused or misused by regulatory agencies and sometimes casinos.

First, I don't want people to know that I am a gambler because of negative societal perceptions of the activity. Gambling is legal in my country but most people see it as immoral. I decided to keep my gambling life secret to protect my career and family.

There are cases where your personal information is sold or transferred to untrusted third parties without the permission of the gambler. This is abnormal and could be used for criminal activities. So I prefer not to give my details to these casinos.

I don't also want to be under the radar of any government agency. Since some section of the population sees gamblers are criminals, it is normal for law enforcement agencies to monitor the financial activities of gamblers and KYC can help them do it perfectly. I also prefer to be anonymous because I don't want to be monitored by anybody when I win big.

People out there want non KYC casinos because of the idea of remaining anonymous in the gambling industry but they don't realize that KYC will only be known by the casino team and this means the gambler can still remain anonymous because no other gamblers will know their.
Apart from that, there is fear that bad things will happen such as data leaks and the sale of personal identity data on the black market, but things like this will never happen if large and trusted casino is used.
Moreover, every large and trusted casino always has layers of security to maintain customer comfort and trust, even though there are several problems that may be caused by hacking, each customer data is guaranteed to be maximally protected by the casino.

So far I am also quite surprised why there are still gamblers who are so worried about KYC that they actually avoid requirements like this.

In fact, there are quite lot of cases of money laundering on gambling sites and also crypto exchange platforms.
In this current era, times have developed and people with crimes involving embezzlement of funds or anything related to personal gain will always enter the proceeds of crime into crypto platforms or gambling sites with the aim of eliminating traces.
Moreover, when they launder money into banks, it can be detected more easily.
Another thing about legitimate businesses is that the gambling business is also legitimate business in various countries.

that is completely correct , he seems to be bitter in most matter or guilty by something that's why he kept calling casino as cheater and the same when there are many casinos there that legit and never tries to take your money by just withdrawing , sometimes it is about your activity that called the system attention so it was been asked but that does not mean that every casino and every transactions are indeed making this far for asking our details.

It's mostly for convenience reasons that's why I pick gambling sites without KYC. It's one less step in creating an account and I don't have to worry about casinos performing KYC on my account when i'm one of the smaller players who never reach their threshold for KYC. If I open a verified account, I sometimes overthink about KYC casinos possibly closing my account and potentially exposing my documents when they're one of the few sites with access to my information.

Come on now. I prefer no KYC platforms myself but let's not ignore the fact that there are also users who exploit some game features and bypass betting restrictions of casinos. These gambling platforms should also have a way to protect themselves from abusers stealing and identity verification is one of that unfortunately.

One of the reasons on why crypto gambling did really get that much attention because of the anonymity that it gives on which this is something that gamblers do really like, although there are people who dont really care about their identity to be exposed online as long they do know  that they havent done something then that would really be giving out that kind of confidence on which
they do really have that point. If as much as possible then it would really be just that much preferred on playing anonymously on which there's no one who do know on what you are doing
or simply does know about your identity neither on other players or the house itself. It does really give out that kind of confidence while you do play.

The list can easily outweigh by the risk of a data leak.  Having a KYC on a weak security casino can be resulted to a data leak if some hackers are able to breach the security of a casino.  Or the casino intend to get money form their customer data by selling them to other company.

It is due to data privacy, one of the major reason why many gambler prefer to play on a casinos that does not require KYC requirement, while others are just too lazy to undergo the process of submitting personal information to the casino. 

Imagine the trouble of scanning the valid ID, taking  a selfie while holding both the valid ID and the bond paper where the name of the casino is written and uploading them to the site. I, myself would rather not to do such process and will choose the casino that does not require us to do such tasks.

KYCs have been assumed to reduce money laundering and also adjust the risk of gambling addiction... It's imperative to know that alot of illicit activities has been happening in most gambling platforms even with the implementation of KYCs...
You can't teach a tech guru how to steal- there's definitely a way out to every routes that has been blocked already... KYCs may have an important role to play, but I think it's mostly about the monitorization policies...

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I really don't think KYC can be used to reduce addiction.people who creates new account sometimes are those trying to cheat their way into those free offers given to new account upon creation.kyc can be used to stop such acts since you register on document to one account.

 Alot of people gamble on no KYC casino's because they are are scared of sharing any of their personal information online since they aren't sure they might play there for long. And also if they don't trust such casino.

This is wrong and misleading, you shouldn't have talked in this manner, casinos are not all thesame, we have many of them that can be trusted by the level of how they have been working towards having a better experience in what they offers to gamblers, requesting for KYC shouldn't be our utmost fear, if we know we have every required informations, then they wouldn't hold us down for nothing if we provide them as accordingly.

I can see another reason. They ask for KYC when their license requires them to.
Many casinos don't want to do it because it's additional cost for them. They have to pay an outside company to verify clients, or pay their own employees to do it, but if they don't do it they'll have to move somewhere else because the authorities will go after them.

It's the governments that we should blame for KYC, not casinos.

I go for no KYC because it's convenient and I know that I'm not a money launderer or anything, so I see no reason why I should be required to go through KYC when I wager very little and don't abuse the system in any way. Ultimately this is a trust issue.

The only time that a bitcoin casino asks for KYC is when they are looking for a reason to steal your money.

The major reason why I play in those casinos that require KYC is because.


1: I don't have any choice if that casino is the only reputable casino that I feel safe and secure to play on and without any other choice, so for that, I may allow myself to go through the verification process just to get everything in place and set before I make any deposits.


In fact, I don't play in a casino unless I already have my KYC verifications done and approved before anything else, unless I am gambling on a decentralized casino that doesn't require my KYC.