why does Bytecoin have GUI wallet but Monero not?

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Quote from: esoum.1003 on July 31, 2015, 06:32:28 AM

Quote from: boolberry on July 31, 2015, 05:34:05 AM

GUI mainly influences usability. Usability will be more important once many people start using CryptoNote coins as currencies.

At this point no CryptoNote economy is well established. Technical differences between coins are more important than GUI concerns at this point.

Boolberry has a GUI but it is not our largest advantage.
https://twitter.com/BBRcurrency/status/627037831412756480

Can you tell how long do you have a GUI wallet?

Trolleros devs think that the important is to have a CLI, lol, no upgrade is needed.

Please respect the Monero development team. They have done many interesting things already, such as OpenAlias which is now being integrated into Electrum. My post was clear. I do not think a GUI is the most important thing at this point. As an economy develops it will become more important.

As others have pointed out, web wallets and 3rd party solutions (like Electrum) can also play a role

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Quote from: boolberry on July 31, 2015, 05:34:05 AM

GUI mainly influences usability. Usability will be more important once many people start using CryptoNote coins as currencies.

At this point no CryptoNote economy is well established. Technical differences between coins are more important than GUI concerns at this point.

Boolberry has a GUI but it is not our largest advantage.
https://twitter.com/BBRcurrency/status/627037831412756480

Can you tell how long do you have a GUI wallet?

Trolleros devs think that the important is to have a CLI, lol, no upgrade is needed.

boolberry

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GUI mainly influences usability. Usability will be more important once many people start using CryptoNote coins as currencies.

At this point no CryptoNote economy is well established. Technical differences between coins are more important than GUI concerns at this point.

Boolberry has a GUI but it is not our largest advantage.
https://twitter.com/BBRcurrency/status/627037831412756480

esoum.1003

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Quote from: HCLivess on July 31, 2015, 04:04:21 AM

because xmr does not have any real developers?

Please don't say that, it's a secret... in this forum... not somewhere else.

They gonna call us bad names, like troll, child, kids, etc ....

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=== NODE IS OK! ==

because xmr does not have any real developers?

canth

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Newb accounts that don't accomplish anything - they can't even push the price down far enough for my buy orders to fill. Stupid ~~kids~~ trolls can't do anything right nowadays!

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Quote from: whap on July 30, 2015, 10:32:04 AM

Quote from: solid12345 on July 30, 2015, 09:59:58 AM

Everyone around here is greedy, don't kid yourselves, you don't think someone like smooth isn't looking to get rich either? Besides what is the point of currency but to accumulate it and spend it and make money, it is the essence of capitalism.

Exactly, that's why i don't trust anyone owning more than 80% of a coin. The market is under their control, and i'm exposed to their arbitrariness.

80% ownership by a single party of a cryptonote coin (such as Bytecoin) also destroys much of its utility, as that party can easily de-anonymize other users (since they will control the vast majority of the outputs).

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Quote from: whap on July 30, 2015, 10:32:04 AM

Quote from: solid12345 on July 30, 2015, 09:59:58 AM

Everyone around here is greedy, don't kid yourselves, you don't think someone like smooth isn't looking to get rich either? Besides what is the point of currency but to accumulate it and spend it and make money, it is the essence of capitalism.

Exactly, that's why i don't trust anyone owning more than 80% of a coin. The market is under their control, and i'm exposed to their arbitrariness.

You have a jr. account, did you read my post, no need to thank me.

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Quote from: solid12345 on July 30, 2015, 09:59:58 AM

Everyone around here is greedy, don't kid yourselves, you don't think someone like smooth isn't looking to get rich either? Besides what is the point of currency but to accumulate it and spend it and make money, it is the essence of capitalism.

Exactly, that's why i don't trust anyone owning more than 80% of a coin. The market is under their control, and i'm exposed to their arbitrariness.

esoum.1003

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@whap
@smooth

Do you know who this gentleman is? I think you do.

Please look at the date, almost half a year has passed and the post is up to date, lol, how is that possible. Shocked

Quote from: dNote on February 01, 2015, 03:40:29 AM

As for me - monero is a biggest bubble, because there is only speculation about it, blockchain is unusable with its size, IMO almost everything about monero seems terrible - unusable blockchain size (On average PC, it just can`t be a network node), block intervals, tx generation size, fee size, no GUI after almost 1 year since start, totally wrong way of development, looks like just no understanding of CN technology.

"software development and infrastructure creation that is done by The Monero Project. " lol you are confirming my words - XRM devs can`t develop the coin, because of low technology understanding, they just make some poor services around original source code, like closed source web wallets.
There is nothing that monero gives to cryptocurrency world, except the wrong way in understanding the new technology, such a pity.

Please monero devs, stop scamming people, once and for all, just tell that you dont understand what you are doing.

Just like smooth says in several topics, i feel the obligation of alert new users of this forum, for is lack of information.

Please dont need to thank me.

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Well said solid12345

I don't really think the ICO model is going to stand the test of time, but at least it is more honest in the sense that, as you say, if you don't like, don't buy.

When investors stop buying then we'll have to come up with something more sustainable, but whatever that is, I'm sure honest and talented developers will still do fine with it.

There will always be scammers though, trying to get even more for less.

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Quote from: whap on July 30, 2015, 09:15:57 AM

The more i read about BCN and DSH, the more i get convinced about their greed driven backrounds at the expense of their honest (and unfortunately naive) supportes.

Everyone around here is greedy, don't kid yourselves, you don't think someone like smooth isn't looking to get rich either? Besides what is the point of currency but to accumulate it and spend it and make money, it is the essence of capitalism.

Anyway the only thing I disagree with about the original Bytecoin devs is how they tried to cover up their premine shenanigans. I think they should have been more honest and been like, we created this revolutionary new crypto tech, we are proud of our work and believe we should be compensated for it and will be distributing all of the coins at xx cents a piece on __ exchange for the community to distribute, if you don't like it, don't buy.

No one calls Factom or Ethereum a scam because they chose to premine the majority of the supply and sell it off as an ICO. The cryptonote team should have done something similar.

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Quote from: esoum.1003 on July 30, 2015, 09:36:39 AM

@whap

So, you keep calling them scammers, and then you want to enter the team.

Why is r/Bytcoin not public, please dad let me enter, lol.

They don't care what you say or think, they have a great plan and you are not in it. lol.

Man, look at your coin, is a disgrace by is lack of development. The people that are buying moneros are unfortunately naive supporters.

Thanks, that's all i wanted to hear Kiss

Hey, i guess your mom is calling you for lunch!

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@whap

So, you keep calling them scammers, and then you want to enter the team.

Why is r/Bytcoin not public, please dad let me enter, lol.

They don't care what you say or think, they have a great plan and you are not in it. lol.

Man, look at your coin, is a disgrace by is lack of development. The people that are buying moneros are unfortunately naive supporters.

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Quote from: esoum.1003 on July 30, 2015, 08:29:21 AM

@smooth

Well, i can tell you that i was here when bitmonero was created and i liked the coin immediately, but i don´t like your attitude from disrespect of others coins.

the most disgusting in you are the lack of gratitude for bytecoin/cryptonote creators.

If you are so good please create a code for your coin.

Now i must agree with you, when bitmonero, ups, sorry, monero going down i am gonna cash out.

Which coins does he "disrespect"? He's publicly critical about 2 projects, both inheriting an obviously shady history. This has nothing to do with lack of gratitude, but with being honest and sceptic about some weird and probably fraudulent backgrounds concerning these projects. We are not painting landscapes in oil here, there are people investing their hard earned money in thrustworthy open source software, and the least they deserve is honesty and public legitimacy. Why is r/Bytecoin not public btw?

Maybe you don't have the brain to think around corners, but isn't smooths dedication of his ressources AND his lifetime to crytonote tech not enough of a gratitude? The more i read about BCN and DSH, the more i get convinced about their greed driven backrounds at the expense of their honest (and unfortunately naive) supportes.

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@smooth

Well, i can tell you that i was here when bitmonero was created and i liked the coin immediately, but i don´t like your attitude from disrespect of others coins.

the most disgusting in you are the lack of gratitude for bytecoin/cryptonote creators.

If you are so good please create a code for your coin.

Now i must agree with you, when bitmonero, ups, sorry, monero going down i am gonna cash out.

smooth

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Quote from: esoum.1003 on July 30, 2015, 08:01:53 AM

Quote from: smooth on July 30, 2015, 07:05:08 AM

Quote from: esoum.1003 on July 30, 2015, 06:24:29 AM

Man you are so wrong, they did not fork Bytecoin, they stole bitmonero from thankful_for_today, the real creator.

Is it true? Huh

No it is not true.

Nobody "stole" bitmonero, it's still there:

https://github.com/bitmonero-project/bitmonero

What was done is forking it, which is what happens when open source projects are run by retards and/or people who behave like retards and who lose the confidence of the community.

Please tell the "community" why when you launch bitmonero for the first time it creates a folder bitmonero. What exactly did you changed? Dont answer that, i know, NOTHING

Sounds like you should be happy, bitmonero lives on!

BTW,

bitmonero-project repo: 67 commits
monero-project repo:1072 commits

Something tells me you don't quite have this story right.

That's okay though, you'll still get paid for your sock puppet trolling.

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Quote from: smooth on July 30, 2015, 07:05:08 AM

Quote from: esoum.1003 on July 30, 2015, 06:24:29 AM

Man you are so wrong, they did not fork Bytecoin, they stole bitmonero from thankful_for_today, the real creator.

Is it true? Huh

No it is not true.

Nobody "stole" bitmonero, it's still there:

https://github.com/bitmonero-project/bitmonero

What was done is forking it, which is what happens when open source projects are run by retards and/or people who behave like retards and who lose the confidence of the community.

Please tell the "community" why when you launch bitmonero for the first time it creates a folder bitmonero. What exactly did you changed? Dont answer that, i know, NOTHING

Please just tell the true, that you guys dont know nothing about Bytecoin code.

If you guys want to be respected, please create a coin and the code from scratch like yours fathers did.

Don't insult the intelligence of the community by promoting thankful_for_today project as your work.

You just stole is project because he did not make the changes that you devs wanted.

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Quote from: esoum.1003 on July 30, 2015, 06:24:29 AM

Man you are so wrong, they did not fork Bytecoin, they stole bitmonero from thankful_for_today, the real creator.

Is it true? Huh

No it is not true.

Nobody "stole" bitmonero, it's still there:

https://github.com/bitmonero-project/bitmonero

What was done is forking it, which is what happens when open source projects are run by retards and/or people who behave like retards and who lose the confidence of the community.

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Quote from: cybermoney.io on July 29, 2015, 08:43:13 PM

Quote from: pandher on July 29, 2015, 08:38:08 PM

It has a gui wallet, look for MoneroX

if they have the balls to fork a project, then be a man and give it the credit it deserves... don't be a pussy talking bad about your own father. It's called manners, and gratitude.

omg

Man you are so wrong, they did not fork Bytecoin, they stole bitmonero from thankful_for_today, the real creator.

Is it true? Huh

They are a bunch of thieves that dont understand the tech of the coin they stole, this is fucking hilarious.

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