Topic: Why does the cosmos exist at all? - page 2. (Read 640 times)

^^^ There is a socialistic nature to all of us. But there is a private and personal one, as well.

I had the same question before. I do always wonder what's above us, those things circling, spinning and moving above our heads, what made them? I never asked who, but what. This question I always ask to some of my drinking buddies back then. I ask them when they got drunk, just to be a little bit serious.

But last year was the last time that I asked about it, the answer came from an old man who's my neighbor, and I'm satisfied with his answer. He's an archeologist, retired university professor and a psychologist.

I asked him, what made the entire universe? His answer was:

"If you find an idle and empty land, what will you do to it? There is no way you can sell it because everybody owns it."

What's the connection of your answer with my question, I asked.

"The empty space is already there before the first sentient being became conscious with its surrounding, it might have question its existence, just like us, and it filled the empty space around us."

I do find his theory related to the creation myth of Buddhism, but his answer gave me the satisfaction.

And the stuff that it can't think about, it lumps together in a big fat lump. Then it questions the lump. But it still doesn't understand the answer that the lump gives.

 

I am saying the human mind questions everything

What are you speaking about?

Thanks for your in-depth answer.  I was afraid this thread will derail into this sort of delusional mumbo jumbo.

What sort of intelligence would want to create insignificant primates to love him/her, over the course of billions of years, creating spacetime spanning billions of light years apart? Insecure, low IQ humans perhaps?

More likely than not, our universe was created by a natural process, however the reasons of the infinite series of predicates to this event remain a mystery.  

If the multiverse theory is correct, our universe is a tiny bubble in the infinite large cosmos with infinite number of universes, each one with different physical laws.  Why does the cosmos exist?  It could be that there is an infinite number of cosmoses, etc., which in turn we can call cosmos1, then you can have an infinite number of cosmoses1, which in turn becomes cosmos2 etc. CosmosN is in the sea of cosmosesN that we can call Cosmos', etc.

Do you get the picture?  I am thinking that there is no answer because it is infinite any way you look at it.

Here is a good vid about infinities:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szd6RBsWntg

I simply answered your question. Why does God exist? To make and love us. The cosmos is all part of that love.

BB and BC is something that nobody knows ever happened anywhere except in the lab.

We could always ask questions for whatever happens. If nothing exists, the question would be, "how come nothing ever exists?" Of course, there would be no one to ask that question, but philosophically speaking, the question would be a mystery.

Is it more probable for nothing to exist at all than it is for at least something to exist?

Dig deeper.  I did not ask what the 'God idea' gives you.

Why does cosmos (not just our universe) exist? Or does it?

If our universe is all there is, and it goes through endless cycles of Big Bangs and Big Crunches, why does it exist at all?

To make and love us... for His own enjoyment and glory, and for ours.

"The obvious question to you then is: why does God exist?"


That's a question for you to answer for yourself, any external answer to that question would be meaningless.

Learn to meditate
or you can hack your brain with psychedelics if you are impatient.

The obvious question to you then is: why does God exist?

“You are right, it is a bit ignorant of me to ask the why question.  But still, I wonder.

The true infinity concept is hard to grasp and the best I can come up with there cannot be the why because the cosmos is infinite and there never can be anything outside of it, by definition.

Still, why the fuck does it exist?

To rephrase the question:
1. For religious people: Why does God exist? What created it?  What created the creator of the creator etc., into infinity?
2. For non-religious people: Why does nature (cosmos) exist (in this and all other universes)?

I cannot see any answer that would make sense. “




It is not ignorant to ask the question why; it is human nature, a function of our gorgeously complex brains.

I was trying be respectful by keeping the religious "mumbo jumbo" out but I'm a believer so here goes...
1.
What if god IS everything and has always been.

In many religious texts the word used to describe god is "ineffable".

“God said to Moses, ‘I AM who I AM.’ And he said, ‘Say this to the people of Israel, I AM has sent me to you’” (Ex. 3:14).
In The Bhagavad Gita god tells prince Arjuna that there is NO way to stray from god and that god is whatever manifestation you need god to be at that time.

Every revision of religion seems to be god trying to have a relationship with people in whichever way they can relate to "the ineffable" ---or a way for humans to answer “why” to a question that doesn’t have an answer because we don’t even know enough yet to ask the right ones.
As humans we are still discovering our environment, what we know so far may not even be 1% of what we need to know to learn another 1% (we don't know :-)

2.
Mechanistic function of natural laws (the least and most exciting answer)

You did not answer the question.  You just introduced the programmer into the picture.  The question still remains unanswered.

You are right, it is a bit ignorant of me to ask the why question.  But still, I wonder.

The true infinity concept is hard to grasp and the best I can come up with there cannot be the why because the cosmos is infinite and there never can be anything outside of it, by definition.

Still, why the fuck does it exist?

To rephrase the question:
1. For religious people: Why does God exist? What created it?  What created the creator of the creator etc., into infinity?
2. For non-religious people: Why does nature (cosmos) exist (in this and all other universes)?

I cannot see any answer that would make sense.  

The type of thinking that it would take to understand the whys of the Programmer, is something that would twist the mind all out of shape, and probably destroy it.

Find a wrong point in what I said and explain why it is wrong... other than that it was said extremely simply.

Assuming that everything you said is correct (which it is not, but it does not matter) and the programmer exists, why does the programmer exist?  That was my question.

However, everything acts according to cause and effect, perfectly, from macrocosm to microcosm. We have found nothing that doesn't act according to cause and effect.

What I mean is, if an electron or any other particle was bumped by its cause(s) in slightly a different way, it would act differently, producing different results, and the universe would act differently. Why? Because all the other particles act just as they act because they were bumped just exactly as they were bumped. And whatever bumped them, bumped them just exactly like they did... all the way back to the start of the whole thing.

The point is that the whole universe acts like it is programmed. We barely see the programming - try tracking an electron the same way you tag and track a dear in the woods.

Since it is programming, there must have been some kind of programmer. The programmer must be extremely knowledgeable and capable to program something like the universe.

You may call it by whatever name u like creation , God or Supernatural power ,nothing or something anything you can quote about it ,but as far as  humane mind goes beyond  ,questions will attach to it that is humane tendency ,but answer is already hidden in your reply that cosmos just exists without any reason and nobody has created it and my opinion also match with your statement. Space and time also discovered by humane being ,other creatures who do not know the concept of space and time they are just living, without  its knowledge .

Given infinity, something that could possibly exist would exist.

Something that could not possibly exist would never exist.

Can something exist outside of time? The question creates an assumption that time is finite. If time is finite, and if there happens to be something that always exists, it would therefore exist outside of time.

However if time is infinite, then nothing could exist outside of time, even for something that always exists. It would just exist along an infinite timeline.