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Topic: Why DOGE is so cheap, What am I missing?? (Read 2614 times)

legendary
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July 22, 2015, 07:14:32 AM
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DOGE has good distribution, but there are a LOT of coins in circulation and inflation is high

It will be interesting to see how things play out. Other coins could learn from DOGE marketing

Yes, i loveed the DOGE coin since when it was launched for the first time, the wallet the design the coin it self.

I think DOGE is pretty good for tipping. Maybe that makes DOGE a pretty useful crypto. The devs should have limited DOGE supply to 25 million in order to reduce inflation and thus price would be higher. At this pace, looks like it's pretty far for DOGE to become worth at least $1

What i like most to DOGE is that it has its fee very very low when we compare to bitcoin which is pretty high at least for me.
Yeah, for tipping is great, the confirmation to go to the person is very fast
legendary
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www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games
DOGE has good distribution, but there are a LOT of coins in circulation and inflation is high

It will be interesting to see how things play out. Other coins could learn from DOGE marketing

Yes, i loveed the DOGE coin since when it was launched for the first time, the wallet the design the coin it self.

I think DOGE is pretty good for tipping. Maybe that makes DOGE a pretty useful crypto. The devs should have limited DOGE supply to 25 million in order to reduce inflation and thus price would be higher. At this pace, looks like it's pretty far for DOGE to become worth at least $1
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1002
DOGE has good distribution, but there are a LOT of coins in circulation and inflation is high

It will be interesting to see how things play out. Other coins could learn from DOGE marketing

Yes, i loveed the DOGE coin since when it was launched for the first time, the wallet the design the coin it self.
full member
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DOGE has good distribution, but there are a LOT of coins in circulation and inflation is high

It will be interesting to see how things play out. Other coins could learn from DOGE marketing
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1002
Check on the crypto market cap, the value of the cryptocurrencies varies from bitcoin, if bicoin is up others are up.
legendary
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The problem is that you are looking at this as if the cost of producing a product has anything to do with the price of a product. Cost is irrelevant. Supply and demand is king.

Imagine that it costs $100 to produce a hamburger. How many $100 hamburgers do you think that you could sell? Now imagine that you posses ALL the food in the world and Bill Gates is starving to death. I'll bet that that you could sell Bill Gates a $100 hamburger. Even if it only cost you 50 cents to produce.

When producing a commodity like oil, gold, silver, etc. ..., production stops or slows down when costs exceed income. Price only rises when the market raises the price. Crypto is the same way. Mining does have an effect on price, but it's a negative effect. Heavy mining tends to drive the price down because it increases the available supply. Then as prices drop, mining slows down and prices have an opportunity to go back up ( only an opportunity because demand must rise for prices to go up ).

It's unfortunate that the economics don't allow most people to mine many coins profitably any more, but mining is not dead yet. You just can't do it with coins like Doge any more.

This is a very good analysis. Also throw in the random premine/instamine factor, where devs/miners can crash the price of their alt coins in an instant, and you pretty much know why coin prices are the way they are.

His analysis is not that good, in my opinion.  He's right that supply and demand is all that matters, but the number of coins per block is hard-coded.  Less hash doesn't decrease the amount of coins being created (well, maybe it does until difficulty adjusts); it just decreases the number of hands and the cost of obtaining those coins.

The honest demand for dogecoin was based on its future potential.  The growth was explosive for the first few months.  Since it had a high marketcap and it was being mined out so quickly, its hashrate even overtook Litecoin's at one point.  It was getting press on major financial news stations and hitting the front page of reddit for sponsoring the Jamaican bobsled team and the dogecoin car, but its brand growth/adoption started to wane around mid 2014 (its price started collapsing even earlier, around the first halvening, when its hashrate went back down below Litecoin's - mid Feb. 2014) and screeched to a halt around Q4 2014 when the moolah fiasco unraveled.
full member
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The problem is that you are looking at this as if the cost of producing a product has anything to do with the price of a product. Cost is irrelevant. Supply and demand is king.

Imagine that it costs $100 to produce a hamburger. How many $100 hamburgers do you think that you could sell? Now imagine that you posses ALL the food in the world and Bill Gates is starving to death. I'll bet that that you could sell Bill Gates a $100 hamburger. Even if it only cost you 50 cents to produce.

When producing a commodity like oil, gold, silver, etc. ..., production stops or slows down when costs exceed income. Price only rises when the market raises the price. Crypto is the same way. Mining does have an effect on price, but it's a negative effect. Heavy mining tends to drive the price down because it increases the available supply. Then as prices drop, mining slows down and prices have an opportunity to go back up ( only an opportunity because demand must rise for prices to go up ).

It's unfortunate that the economics don't allow most people to mine many coins profitably any more, but mining is not dead yet. You just can't do it with coins like Doge any more.

This is a very good analysis. Also throw in the random premine/instamine factor, where devs/miners can crash the price of their alt coins in an instant, and you pretty much know why coin prices are the way they are.
legendary
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Unfortunately, not many actually use cryptocurrencies.  Cryptocurrencies are better thought of as a commodity like gold than a currency.

Even if doge has 50,000 users who spend $5 a year on products, it's marketcap doesn't need to be anywhere near what it is.  It's marketcap is so high because people are investing in what they believe the future will bring, and unfortunately, it has lost its momentum.  That doesn't mean it couldn't be pumped much higher at one point.  Litecoin was pumped from .007 to .03 in a very short period of time, until recently falling back to .013; but dogecoin is very unlikely to have a serious increase of adoption.

Superior technology is the only thing that can set altcoins apart, with the hope adoption will come later.  The only coin that I've seen with a talented developer who's trying to solve all the problems with Bitcoin is Vanillacoin.

Current Features:
-Can be compiled on any platform, including Windows, MacOS, Android, iOS, game consoles, etc.  No other cryptocurrency can do this.
-Full, staking mobile wallets with transferable wallet.dat
-Only other coin besides BTC to require only 1 confirmation on Poloniex.
-Unlike Bitcoin, Vanillacoin's global transaction pool is highly synchronized, which makes malicious block reorganizations nearly impossible.
-Active dev, most talented I've seen in the altcoin space.

Look into it for upcoming features.
legendary
Activity: 1470
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Joke is a joke coin.

What I don't get is why too many people took it seriously and decided to buy such expensive stuff to mine Doges

Before mining doge was very fun and very high profit (if you ever heard for cointellect which scammed at the end)
legendary
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Joke is a joke coin.

What I don't get is why too many people took it seriously and decided to buy such expensive stuff to mine Doges
legendary
Activity: 1470
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Doge really isn't cheap. It still is 5th in market cap.

Market cap is $ 17,931,253 , the price has dropped a bit as the bitcoin price drops had it effect
sr. member
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Doge really isn't cheap. It still is 5th in market cap.
legendary
Activity: 1470
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Doge was much more cheaper (like @48) but now it is ok, it is not best but it is ok.
legendary
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www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games
I was one of the first miners for Doge coin back in late 2013 while I was working on the Marinecoin wallet, I had 20 MH GPU rigs huge scrypt hash back then and was very hard to mine DOGEs even back then, now the the Doge hashrate is over 1THs with the power of 3000 KNC Titan Asic Scrypt miners requiring 1700 Watt each and yet daily rewards total is merely 2,400 USD. not even close enough to cover electricity costs let alone the cost of manufacturing the rigs even if you had free electricty

You can buy entire days DOGE output for only for  2400 USD on the exchange, if you decide to mine that amount cheapest rig rental is 0.00045 BTC per MH per hour  would cost 45 BTC per hour x 24 hours = 1080 BTC cost per day to hire a rigs to mine a days supply of doge coin 240.000 USD, considering that many rigs are not available for hire it is also impossible to mine it if you were the richest man in the World.
 
Litecoin daily reward at 120.000 USD with just about the same hashrate.

Litecoin community pretty much doesn't exist, Doge community is by far the strongest and by far the most active same goes for their devs, usage of Dogecoin surpassed LTC and if a site accepts LTC it usually also accepts doge, same goes for exchanges, Doge in China is as big as BTC.

if a corporation decided to create a similar market awareness for anything it would cost 100s of millions in USD in just marketing yet entire Doge market cap can not buy a 5 bedroom apartment in NYC. and probably only could afford to get a 1 bedroom apartment in NJ if they really decided to sell their Dogecoins and get one.

Someone tell me what I am missing?

Marinecoin DEV

Dogecoin is cheap, for sure, but it is relative.
To explain it better, there is another coin, I will not name it, just some characteristics:

1) The trade volume of coin used to be higher than Doge's one in 2014.
2) One of developers of this coin is a person on whose code Dogecoin was based.
3) There is an active community of this coin and this coin is not very much less known than DOGE, here on Bitcointalk, at least.
4) There is a good liquidity on Cryptsy.
5) It has much better name.
6) You can buy on Amazon, eBay, Overstock, Barnes&Noble, Groupon etc. with this coin.
7) Total supply is limited and year mining inflation is 5% only, pure PoW.

The market cap of this coin is under $200,000. Dogecoin's market cap is $19 mln.

The problem is: people don't invest in coins now. They would better buy an appartment in NYC than investing in Dogecoin, or buy a car than investing in above mentioned coin. You may tell them a lot, you may promote, people will not listen, will not buy - for the time being.
The boom will come a bit later.
We should wait and that is all.


I'm interested in the name of this coin. Could somebody PM the name? I would really appreciate it. Thanks
legendary
Activity: 1457
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there is nothing valueable in doge... old joke is old.

yeah all this talk about going to moon....slap on the haters face it does happen  Roll Eyes
hero member
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there is nothing valueable in doge... old joke is old.
hero member
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Cheap?
In my opinion, doge is too expensive now. Come on, it is just a copy of litecoin.
                                                                                                     
member
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Here is something else you can buy with DOGE:

https://bleutrade.com/exchange/ZET/DOGE

Hehe, that's the best use for DOGE LOL!  Grin
Not much sell order's though.  Makes sense.
newbie
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Here is something else you can buy with DOGE:

https://bleutrade.com/exchange/ZET/DOGE


legendary
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ahh you know why? because you can't buy anything with dogecoin, their creators left the community and there is simply no demand and usage, except pump and dump scenarios..
i see a lot of places that you can spend dogecoin.
some of the things that you can buy with dogecoin:
  • Gift Cards
  • Jewelry, Accessories & Apparel
  • Coffee Mugs, Office supplies & Cell phone cases
  • Food/Health
  • Music
  • Games
  • Collectibles(comics)
  • Art
  • Hardware & Software
  • Web Design, Development, Hosting services
  • Toys
  • Movies
  • Sports & Equipment
  • Books
  • Stickers
  • Services
  • Physical Dogecoins
  • E-cigs, Glass pipes and Vapor products
  • Offline Wallets
  • Charities
  • ....

i personally have only used Doge for doing giveaways, buying games and donating to charity.

more info:
http://www.dogecoins.com/spend.php
https://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/wiki/shop_with_dogecoin

doesn't matter how long you list is, you can buy all stuff mentioned above with bitcoin. I enjoyed initial hype, strong community, cool leaders (Palmer, Doernberg..) and charity projects..but for last couple of months, there is nothing new (if something except meme pictures with shiba inu, let me know..) and dogecoin just stuck somehow as many similar projects..
i totally agree, i didn't want to advertise anything about Dogecoin. i just wanted to say that there are many things that can be bought with it. i haven't even check the links to see how of them are working or legit.

it is a dead coin with nothing new as far as i am concerned. nowadays it has a price rise but after the litecoin hype ends , Doge will start going down again.
Doge is just a meme and i only enjoy the community that is all.
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