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They can't, crypto isn't a stable asset it's highly volatility and far different from money, it's going to be hard to see crypto and medium of exchange really because the volatile part doesn't guarantee anything
In all, I believe that is the major issue cryptocurrencies have when it comes to seeing it as a means of exchange and on a positive note, why people are more into crypto. If there was no volatility in crypto, there wouldn't be the king of profits that investors get from it and wouldn't have been investing in it that much. So, what is a positive for crypto investors is what makes it difficult as a means for exchange hence, it is different from money.
Yes, it's one issue to the banks.

A highly volatile asset can't be accepted by them and most of the banks aren't really looking forward in adopting cryptocurrencies with their services.

But there might be some open-minded banking management that shall adopt this soon in the future. The crypto market is showing unstoppable potential and growth so they won't ignore it.
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Banks are indeed very difficult to work with cryptocurrencies, because both have different systems. Moreover, banks are very easily controlled
by the government, while we knows crypto is decentralization, which cannot be controlled by the government. With some differences that exist
in the banking system and crypto, finally crypto is only possible as an alternative payment. Even in some countries crypto is still considered
a threat to the banking system, so only allow crypto as a digital asset.
What crypto differentiates from banking system, is that they can't fully control crypto transactions. Whereas, as we all know, banking system is centralized where the government has the full control on the system. They can only accept it as alternative payment for the moment but totally adopting crypto is still far from their horizon. Just be glad that the adoption of crypto right now is booming owed to this pandemic. A lot of merchants are looking for alternative payment options. And crypto is a very good candidate on this.
Differences in the system and the political role of the government that hinders cryptocurrency from placing its position as a currency. for now it seems we can only make money from bitcoin, because the government in my country has no sign of using it even during this pandemic. I think crypto will be an alternative payment tool along with the proof in the eyes of the world

It is true that government regulations are one of the barriers to crypto as a currency, because not all countries accept Bitcoin. Some countries do
only allow Bitcoin as a digital asset, then it is very difficult for Bitcoin to be accepted in all countries of the world as an alternative payment.
But I believe in the end the government can realize the benefits of Bitcoin, it does take time for Bitcoin to be accepted by everyone. Meanwhile for
people who live in countries where the government has not given permission for Bitcoin as payment, should be grateful to still be able to use Bitcoin
to make money.
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They can't, crypto isn't a stable asset it's highly volatility and far different from money, it's going to be hard to see crypto and medium of exchange really because the volatile part doesn't guarantee anything
In all, I believe that is the major issue cryptocurrencies have when it comes to seeing it as a means of exchange and on a positive note, why people are more into crypto. If there was no volatility in crypto, there wouldn't be the king of profits that investors get from it and wouldn't have been investing in it that much. So, what is a positive for crypto investors is what makes it difficult as a means for exchange hence, it is different from money.
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I think banking will embrace and embrace digital currency. it's only a matter of time, indeed for banks the presence of cryptocurrencies is a scourge for them. but I'm sure after all the systems are studied and mastered by them, the crypto currency will become a new business field for the banking world.
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It's true that Decentralization and volatility are the key factors that the banks don't work with cryptocurrency right now. The banks, as well as the government have no authority or responsibility when it comes to cryptocurrency. And also because of anonymity that make it impossible or difficult to find out who owns or use crypto for any transactions and that kind of information was very important to banks. It is more advantageous for banks if the people continuous to use fiat system and they are already nervous with the existence of crypto.

But at thought of banks working with crypto.. I think it is possible. Crypto adaptation is growing and still happening. Everyday new people are engaging themselves on it that threatens banks. So I think banks are probably planning or thinking on how they can also adopt crypto, thinking on how they still make it profitable to them. Though it was hard for them but they need to come up with a solution so that they can still go with the flow and not left behind.
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Very few countries have banks that operate with bitcoin and cryptocurrency. Banks always want its userbase to function under their control. This becomes a hard thing to be done when banks starts to operate with cryptocurrency. Apart from this banks think of hacks, because a single security breach into the banks vault will cause a big loss to the banking system. Though the technology is highly secure there is chance of security breach. Some are interested on the blockchain technology for its good, but hesitant to use cryptocurrencies into banking system.

Banks are indeed very difficult to work with cryptocurrencies, because both have different systems. Moreover, banks are very easily controlled
by the government, while we knows crypto is decentralization, which cannot be controlled by the government. With some differences that exist
in the banking system and crypto, finally crypto is only possible as an alternative payment. Even in some countries crypto is still considered
a threat to the banking system, so only allow crypto as a digital asset.

What crypto differentiates from banking system, is that they can't fully control crypto transactions. Whereas, as we all know, banking system is centralized where the government has the full control on the system. They can only accept it as alternative payment for the moment but totally adopting crypto is still far from their horizon. Just be glad that the adoption of crypto right now is booming owed to this pandemic. A lot of merchants are looking for alternative payment options. And crypto is a very good candidate on this.
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There is a medium acceptance  with certain banks that are already "playing" Bitcoin and even creating possible commercial alliances with small FINTECH, in Mexico BBVA has managed to finance entrepreneurs  creating commercial channels.

There is no direct commercial relationship but it is being created indirect commercial associations that allow you to start having experience with Bitcoin.

Other examples, Europe specifically BBVA.Mc from Spain:

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Spain’s BBVA (BBVA.MC) said on Friday said it was launching a bitcoin trading service for private banking clients in Switzerland interested in digital asset investment.
Source: https://www.reuters.com/business/spains-bbva-opens-bitcoin-trading-service-clients-switzerland-2021-06-18/
June 18, 2021. Last Updated 2 months ago.
sr. member
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Very few countries have banks that operate with bitcoin and cryptocurrency. Banks always want its userbase to function under their control. This becomes a hard thing to be done when banks starts to operate with cryptocurrency. Apart from this banks think of hacks, because a single security breach into the banks vault will cause a big loss to the banking system. Though the technology is highly secure there is chance of security breach. Some are interested on the blockchain technology for its good, but hesitant to use cryptocurrencies into banking system.

Banks are indeed very difficult to work with cryptocurrencies, because both have different systems. Moreover, banks are very easily controlled
by the government, while we knows crypto is decentralization, which cannot be controlled by the government. With some differences that exist
in the banking system and crypto, finally crypto is only possible as an alternative payment. Even in some countries crypto is still considered
a threat to the banking system, so only allow crypto as a digital asset.
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I wouldn't say that they don't work with cryptocurrencies, no, some banks are really interested in it but they don't act directly. More likely I would say that every bank is interested in it but the way they express their interest is very different, some of them want to adapt it, some of them want to conquer it and some of them want to get rid of it.

As I said, some banks are really interested in it and isntead of directly accepting the crypto, they create 3rd party companies, partner with them and offer bitcoin exchange that way. For example, imagine I have an account in HSBC bank and HSBC owns a company similar of Webmoney. Webmoney on another hand is a whole different experience that offers me to store some $$, pay bills, deposit on gambling accounts, etc but... It also gives me possibility to receive the crypto and convert in into USD or other currency. HSBC can't do this but their partner Webmoney (just saying) can do it legally because similar financial providers are rarely regulated. I deposit crypto on webmoney, convert in into USD and because of HSBC/Webmoney partnership I spend my $ on HSBC bank account and then do whatever I wish.
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They can't, crypto isn't a stable asset it's highly volatility and far different from money, it's going to be hard to see crypto and medium of exchange really because the volatile part doesn't guarantee anything

Inestability is not a real problem, banks have worked with mortgage backed securities in 2008 and everyone knew that these were not really stable not worth much for that matter, yet still they sold them around until the last fool standing saw them drop to zero. Anyway, crypto can be used as any currency with fluctuating value - that is all of them - even banks will use turkish liras and the like when their clients demand so, so crypto is not different nor should be.
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Most of banks are still not working with Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency. But I believe that it will change in the future. Banks will even line up to do so. Because they won't be able to do without digital currencies. Every day, more people join the digital money world. And at some point, we will stop using paper money also. Then if banks still resist, then they will be gone one by one.
If they start to collaborate with bitcoin to their services, that will be the usual thing that banks do and that's with the loans.

There's trust and confidence with the banks if they're going to do that but how they will determine the value of it and quantity that they'll put in loans.

It's a complicated thing to them at this stage so this will just move on them slowly.
legendary
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There is a logical explanation for this.
First, the volatility inherent in digital assets. The fact is that the main goal of every bank is to make a profit. The slightest fluctuation in the cryptocurrency market increases the risk of reducing all projected profits to zero. Today, cryptocurrency is showing a certain stability, but even despite these indicators, most financial institutions still prefer to provide traditional banking services for corporate clients, whose activities they understand.

Decentralized Cryptocurrency is not controlled or limited by anyone alone, there is no single administrator and regulator. Not a single financial, tax, government organization can influence the actions of participants in the payment system.
Ethereum is a multifunctional virtual platform on which blockchain-based applications (online services) are created. Applications work as "smart contracts (smart contracts)" that exclude third parties (intermediaries) in the transaction process. On their basis, it is possible to create a platform that will stimulate banks to lend against the security of cryptocurrency without fear of losses, and this, in turn, will interest the financial sector to place its assets in cryptocurrency?

In solving this problem, I took as an example the existing US financial system.
Assuming that Ethereum is the Dollar, and the smart contract is the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency of the United States (OCC), and ETH-WORLD tokens are the Securities of the US Treasury, we get a financial model of a new decentralized economic system based on cryptocurrency. I implemented all this in my project, in contrast to the existing Fiat, it completely lacks an external emission regulator and is managed by the smart contract program.

It looks like *investment* banks are increasingly getting involved with Bitcoin and cryptocurrency instruments, probably pushed along by requests from their clientele. Laws had to be made up especially for these financial contracts and regulators are usually quite far behind when it comes to the latest trends. However traditional banks are quite rightly wary of cryptocurrency because essentially if it is adopted on a mass scale it would make a large part of their functionality obsolete. That being said, their could be specialist banks (maybe that is what certain exchanges are aiming to become) which offer these abilities, but every customer would be expected to go through a process that eliminates their anonymity if they needed to follow anti-money laundering specifications.
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maybe they can cooperate with crypto but they must be prepared to lose some of their profits even though the profits of others will increase.
because basically we all already know that crypto has a decentralized nature. from this alone the bank can no longer interfere and it will be very difficult to track the system that is in the bank and crypto is different.
on the other hand, there may be several banks that have started to open up and collaborate with crypto. but it's just an alternative payment method and an option other than that the rest is to increase the centralized currency
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Very few countries have banks that operate with bitcoin and cryptocurrency. Banks always want its userbase to function under their control. This becomes a hard thing to be done when banks starts to operate with cryptocurrency. Apart from this banks think of hacks, because a single security breach into the banks vault will cause a big loss to the banking system. Though the technology is highly secure there is chance of security breach. Some are interested on the blockchain technology for its good, but hesitant to use cryptocurrencies into banking system.
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Most of banks are still not working with Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency. But I believe that it will change in the future. Banks will even line up to do so. Because they won't be able to do without digital currencies. Every day, more people join the digital money world. And at some point, we will stop using paper money also. Then if banks still resist, then they will be gone one by one.
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It's a good explanation. But actually, banks have started to work with cryptocurrencies these days. For example, some banks in Texas, USA have started to give place to cryptocurrencies in their system also. And I've heard about some European banks also that they started to do so a long time ago. I think banks are doing this because they don't want to miss the opportunity to attract crypto users.
it seems that now many banks have started adopting cryptocurrencies. recently i heard that the ukraine state will issue their own crypto and will legalize cryptocurrencies soon. I think after this more countries will issue their own crypto and start legalizing cryptocurrencies.
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It's a good explanation. But actually, banks have started to work with cryptocurrencies these days. For example, some banks in Texas, USA have started to give place to cryptocurrencies in their system also. And I've heard about some European banks also that they started to do so a long time ago. I think banks are doing this because they don't want to miss the opportunity to attract crypto users.

Minor banks you called banks? Those are state banks and aren't that pretty much as people actually wanted them, I also think that those banks are actually getting something from customers either high fee charges or some commission, banks are very wise, they hardly give except for lucky family bonanza.
Banks are becoming difficult for everyone as they are also reported disallowing deposits and withdrawal, they are never friendly.
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It's a good explanation. But actually, banks have started to work with cryptocurrencies these days. For example, some banks in Texas, USA have started to give place to cryptocurrencies in their system also. And I've heard about some European banks also that they started to do so a long time ago. I think banks are doing this because they don't want to miss the opportunity to attract crypto users.
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it is clear that banks are basically under the control of the government.
it's true it would be great if banks could work with crypto but politics isn't that easy my friend. when an agency is shaded by the government, they will automatically use the rules in accordance with what the government proposes regardless of whether it's good or not because of course the government also doesn't want to lose from this.
and if banks cooperate with crypto, automatic dominance and government monopoly will be a little more difficult because their control will not be strong anymore because crypto is very difficult to control
In my opinion you have it backwards, it is the banks that are in control of the governments and they are pressuring the politicians to not pass laws and regulations that are favorable to cryptocurrencies, and it is not difficult to understand why this is the case, cryptocurrencies are direct competitors against banks and banks for the most part are a monopoly and they do not like the idea of sharing their power so they're going to do everything that they can to avoid this scenario and will only cooperate once it is clear that there is no way they are going to beat this market.
I agree with you on the point that banks are afraid of cryptocurrencies replacing them, but it don't think that they are the ones that are directly influencing that decision, if you think about it the central banks controls all the other banks which is controlled by the government, because the value of a fiat currency is based on the economy of the country which is controlled by the different sides of the governmental institutions, which means that governments are the ones that control the currency, and by using cryptocurrency they won't be able to control it.
In many countries the central bank is not controlled or owned by the government, and in the case of the most important currency around the world this is the case so I still think that banks are the most directly interested in not allowing bitcoin to flourish, but at this point it is too late since there is nothing they can do to stop bitcoin, however I wonder that happens next as I think banks will most likely try to do to bitcoin the same they did to gold and in that instance there is not much we can do to stop banks from buying bitcoin and then store it, decreasing the supply of bitcoin available to the public forever.
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Erm... Sorry, but I guess I would have to contradict here. Do you really think banks are not interesting in dealing with assets that are easy to bubble? Seriously, they are very interested in dealing with such assets. The reason is quite simple: if they facilitate credit to get the housing/real estate market to bubble, and then see the whole market crash and real estate owners can't supply sufficient collateral anymore because of the decreased real estate value, banks are in a perfect position to now get the collateral at lower prices back than they initially were willing to finance it for.

I don't think it will be as simple as what you say because even though the bank can take collateral for the credit given, the bank will still have problems turning the assets they take.  Like the case of a bank in my country, default on the credit given has a bad effect on the bank.  Bank health is very important for a country because 1 bank in trouble in a country will usually attract other banks.  The financial sector is the most sensitive to the country's economic stability.

I don't know which country you are from, but wealthy banks from the United States no very well that the economy works in cycles. From time to time we might see gigantic failures like Lehman in 2008, but usually banks are just healthy enough to play their game into the next cycle. A lot of people could buy houses because there were also sellers at the peak. Why was there sufficient supply to meet that high demand? Because the rich and clever knew that the market is peaking and they expected to find themselves in a situation later on to buy back cheaper than what they sold for.
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