Topic: Why getting merit without helful post? - page 2. (Read 711 times)

Firstly any post that gets merit Must have been helpful in the view of the individual giving the merit it's not a necessity that it must be in your recommendation. Best thing you can do is ignore all your whining and work harder

Don't put yourself on the ignore list of many merit source and active merit senders by creating another meaningless topic such as this one. Your account is just ~4months old you still have a long way to go and topics such as theses just proved you're here just to earn therefore searching for merits. This issue has been discussed severally on forum, I even did a topic on it few months back when it was still relevant but it's no more because just as forum user cryptovigi stated, many members have busted this myth of only higher rank members (legendary) are getting merited by ranking up from newbie to jnr member, full member, snr member and some even legendary members. If you truly contribute in the little way you can, the merits will find you. Stop searching for it.

It's all false news about thehe merit that the deserving one's don't get it because I too posted something basic(just describing) but I still got a merit on it by some kind hearted so it's just that you need to post something good and by good I mean no typos and check it's quality  too also refrain posting same topics.

yes i have seen many member's posts ... there are manry unusefull posts in their profile .
but how they got merits..!

Hello, I am a beginner, I tried to invest in crypto for the first time a few days ago, now I am learning everything about crypto and forums.
I can learn a lot here, and people look very friendly and helpful. But there are a lot of rules here. What Merit is. why do I need it, what does it mean?
What is merit source? Do you have unlimited merit? I want to know how to get your reward?
Don't get me wrong, I am not begging, I know that begging is not allowed here. I just want to know clearly what I should do in the future, thank you.

I don't agree with many of the points and suggestions in your post.

I am a legendary and a merit source, and I always have at least 100 sMerits available for awards. I spend time actively looking for new members to encourage. I try to encourage political, economic and technical posts rather than discussions about the Bitcoin Talk forum.

The real problem stems from the desire to increase rank because it increases the potential to earn from exploiting the forum. Most senior members don't post to earn from their signatures, but use signatures to pick up some advantages from posting activity that they would probably perform without reward.

1. Small is not necessarily unhelpful. Even an URL to the right direction can be extremely helpful sometimes.
2. Many use merit in the way you'd use FB "like", only to show agreement.
3. Some reward posts just because they made them laugh or smile.
4. Some reward the threads asking "the right question", meaning that trigger some useful/interesting answers.


All in all, while are some common sense rules for merit, it's actually awarded rather randomly (based on personal decision), so the best is that instead of hunting for merit, enjoy the ride. And the merit will eventually come.

Punish you? Yes that might happen if you're proven guilty of copying someone's topic or content and using it as your own. About getting merits you can check the profile of DdmrDdmr and theyoungmillionaire for more information on what kind of topic/post that would likely earn merit. There's no reason to complain if they(newbies) won't receive merit even if you see some high rank members earn merit with one line post but it's on the merit sender whether he/she will send or not to receiver. No merit earn means no contributive post.

The issue or merit awarding divided by ranks, boards and members have been discussed quite a couple of times.
And from all the duscussions I have concluded that merits can be giving out for whatever reason the merit owner wants (except it's an alt account getting awarded or a bought merit). Barring these two situations the merit awarder has no gains in giving out smerits and hance it is an unregulated sector.

Merit sources as I know are very straightforward in giving out merits. As they have to be professional.

first of all merit is not just given to "helpful topics" it is given to "constructive posts". for example the last post i merited wasn't "helpful" in way that you have in mind nor was it a wall of text! it was "constructive" in explaining the current market situation in my opinion.

as your topic history, first of all it is obvious that you are doing it for merit not to be "helpful" which may be the main reason you haven't received any! also what you are posting is the most common thing that is posted in trading discussion board and i personally don't find it helpful because you are basically talking about general stuff and it is repeated at least 100 times.

People randomly give merit to the one they think their post or comment are good. It is not so important, maybe it is not so helpful with you but it is helpful with others. Who knows?

OP, you're doing everything fine. You're really putting effort into your posts and I'm sure that you will get Merit sooner or later.
But I think you're that it can be more difficult to earn Merit for new members. I think that some people here rarely gives Merit to Newbies and Juniors even if they see good post, because they afraid that it can be copied content. Sometimes they are lazy to check and they just skip that post. On the other hand, there are many users who started with 0 Merit and they reached high rank. So, we can't say that new members are discriminated here.
About hero, legendary members. I think it's easier to get merit when you're more or less established member. People earned their reputation with long history of contribution to the forum. And it's not neccessary to write long article to get Merit. Good joke or sarcasm in right place and time can earn you Merit.
And I can tell why your topics have low number of views. Unfortunately, many people here (bounty spammers) prefer to reply in basic topics with simple question, because it doesn't require much time and knowledge to drop few sentences. Not many of these users have enough knowledge to reply in topics about technical and fundamental analysis for example.
I recommend to continue what you're doing. Just focus on quality of content, check spelling as advised and you'll get Merit.

This is a forum for discussion,and as long as you break none of our rules,you definitely cannot/will not be punished,and you've done none of that with this post..
Your assessment is a bit wrong though as the preceeding replies have all pointed out, it's basically a known fact on the forum now, if you're good, and you can come up with good quality stuff,there is no chance in hell you'll remain meritless
The thing is simply about your willingness to be useful on the forum,English could be a slight barrier,but it counts for less,as long as theirs coherence in your text

Time spent on this post,could have been used for something more profitable,and probably one could have merited you

You have alot of hindrance prevent you from getting merited and whining about merit wouldn't get you any merit also. And beside a post that is not useful to you might be useful to another member so there is no range used to measure the usefulness of a post. If you can be honest to yourself you would know that you and the rest unmerited member you stated have made merit an obsession or not been constructive enough and merit would continue to elude you guys until the right thing is done. If one can't not get merit from a member if a forum there are some merit sources that are always going through searching for meritable post to award merit It's never to late to start making good contribution

PS. You can start to become useful to the forum by locking this thread and not making any like this anymore

Most probable, but this type of accusation should be made with proof. We should not speculate. OP is innocent until proven guilty.

@OP.
I have gone through your topics but  unfortunately I lost all interest in trading.
But I have some question for your topics.
1. How much personal experience you have as a trader?
2. What points in your topics are based on your personal experiences?
3. How much probability that I will not get the same points if I do the search about "trading guideline/best practices"?
4.Did you find somewhere in forum that people are need of this kind of information before you  wrote this article?

Your topic will not gain popularity (merits) if it is missing the above points.

I have few question for you as well.
1. What is your primary objective in this forum?
If it is Merit, then you can churn out some good statistics for it.
If it is money, Then better to build your technical skills first.
If it is discussion, Then I guess you are getting replies.

The merit will be given by random forum members, if they are like some posts they will give merit to that posts. Then we cannot 100% expect to get merit to our posts. Always try to make good valuable posts on here. Don't make merit targeted posts. Try to be a loyal member on here. You will receive merit automatically.

Unfortunately, Merit won't come that easy especially if you are a newbie. This is open view best on experience, most of these Legendary SMerit sources definitely won't agree with this but, there is some sort of bias toward Lower ranked members (except for a generous few like OgNasty ). They probably think you are just here for money ( the irony is most of them wear advertising signatures or at one point in this forum used to wear signatures too.. talk about double standards)
In order to get an impressive amount of merit as a newbie,
- You have to work extra hard for it ( help people around whenever you can, it's a much easier bet of picking at-least one merit day)
- Spend a great chunk of your time on Bitcointalk trying to agree or defend the "Merit givers" whenever there is an argument or disagreement about any new implementation on Meta board
- Be very technical, Post technical and graphical analysis about how good the merit system is, The 100 top this and that... such as;
Top 30 Merit givers per board - Interactive Tool to spot possible Merit Sources
Analysis – Sender’s Merit Network – How does it evolve

- Become an FBI agent on bitcointalk, technically detect Fake ICO teams like this;
🔴 Ongoing exposed scam ICO list, must read to save money; Update: 03/09/18 🔴
   ⚠ List of SCAM ICO! [PROVED]

Honestly to me, it's not fair enough. A large portion of Merit is still locked up to a few cliques of people of which some of them have had a past history in this forum, Others just ignore newbie infested boards like Altcoin boards so new entrants will find it hard to get recognized. So try you luck helping people in Bitcoin related boards, hopefully your comments will catch a generous merit giver.
If you are not technically gifted or don't have enough time, the only best way you can get merit is to help others once in a while whenever you have an opportunity, otherwise posting articles won't help much

Hopefully the system will improve over time.

Do you mind giving an example of posts that are not constructive at all and yet receive merits (aside from bounty managers posts)? If you see someone abusing the system (as long as you have proof), report him.

As for your posts, I haven't checked but I'm pretty sure you copied them from somewhere else just by looking at the writing style. In other words, you didn't put any effort into them so there is no reason to receive merits.

Merit is subjective, and as such, you will see it awarded on many occasions where your personal point of view does not concur with it. Nevertheless, one primal quality one needs is patience. In your specific case, you’ve written six posts in the last week which I do not consider to be spam at all, but that have gone unmerited so far. You need to take into account that merit does not necessarily come fast. In my personal case, it took me the best part of two months to get my first merit, and quite a number of posts.

I tend to point out that time and effort are the key factors to writing decent posts that postulate to being merited, but you also need patience and a certain persistence to be noticed around. @Direwolve735 would also add self-confidence to the set of skills.
   

another. Typo is, of course, a factor. But it doesn't affect to much though.
@OP
If you create a valueable post, you will definitely get merits. Check how people are getting merits from posts which have been posted before couple of months. It may take some times but deserved post will definitely get.