Topic: Why God exists in all people mind? - page 32. (Read 37790 times)

The answer is, since God created all things, He also created the natural goodness that you might have, in you.

Consider the bad guy... the real bad guy... a guy who goes around killing and stealing and raping and doing every other bad thing. As long as he is alive, he will do good now and then. He has a few people who are friends. He might even do the good of giving his life up for his friends when necessary.

Good is something God put in us all when He made nature.

No wonder you jokers believe in science or atheism. Like brute beasts, you do and live the things you learned earlier in life, and can't even think on your own.

Nobody has an explanation of how life and the universe came into being. Science isn't even close. They tell you this themselves by calling their "stuff" theories, things that haven't been proven true, make-believe things, like unicorns and dragons and science-fiction stories.

People can go along in life ignoring ideas like where this all came from. Or they can believe the science fiction stories of science theory. Either way, the best answer is that God made these things. Why? Because we can't make them, and we don't know of any other place they could have come from.

I feel sad about people who enjoy in drugs, alcohol, smoking, gambling etc,. and believe that such imaginary things will makes them happy
People who believe in God are often inspired to help others, people in need, in their communities.
People with addiction are not inspired to help others but only themselves.
If so, why anybody have problem if someone believe in God and such faith makes him better person?
Why you don't have problem with other people, people with addiction?

   God is imaginary thing, created to confuse people. I'm sad when I see believers, so much pain in the world cause of faith and God's and you are still pushing the same fucking thing.
   I feel sorry for this people who live in illusion, thats why there is more people who live in poverty and pain. When you people will rise above imaginary God, and start to love people who are close to you.
   

Ouch!

With a burn like that, BADecker...... i suggest this cream.

CAN YOU BE GOOD WITHOUT GOD?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWJNmhKiOhI

No no no, you cannot claim that evidence, (they're not proofs really, as I said earlier the only true proofs are things like mathematical proofs, so from now on I will call them evidence), based on the laws of physics, can tell us anything about a being that doesn't follow the laws of physics. How can you not understand this?

All the science we know was written by man, under the influence of the standard laws of physics. Therefore any scientific theories, laws or even proofs that they observed,  can only be valid on an entity that is under the influence of those same laws.

If god isn't under the influence of these laws of physics, or has "different physics" to the universe, then none of that science can prove or disprove him, because the science was formulated under different conditions.


Aaand the rest of your post was incoherent babbling... I think what you're trying to say is "physics is so great, it had to have been made by god". Not a valid argument I'm afraid, you're making claims with zero evidence. Also even if you do believe that "god made physics", it could have been any god, nothing to suggest it was your Christian god.

I have absolutely no problem with you having faith in god, you're free to believe what you want and that's fine.

But there is, and probably never will be, any scientific proof of his (or her, or it's) existence. If you believe in god you need to rely on your faith in him, not in some pseudoscientific "proofs" of his existence.

And your claims of this proof is not only tedious, it strikes me that maybe you do not have as much faith as you think you do.

Maybe that's something you could bring up with your vicar/bishop/pastor/cult leader.

 

That's exactly the point. The thing that the proof does is prove that God exists. Why? Because the laws of physics don't explain where they come from. The proofs do... Something that is outside of physics. Physics shows that it exists by something that is so extremely powerful, and intelligent, and full of knowledge, and full of understanding, etc., that we can't even imagine what It is like. Even our term "God," in all of the best of the glorious descriptions wherein many people have described Him, falls way short of the glorious thing that He is.

All of this is proclaimed by physics showing us the greatness of itself (physics), without any explanation at all of where it comes from.

To put it simply, stuff like physics simply doesn't come into existence through itself, or through any means we have been able to find. God is outside of physics, but He is the only way physics can have come into existence.

Someone might say that the thing I am talking about is not God. What else can it be? It has to be God, because It is intelligent like people, It has strength like people, It is emotional like people (where else did emotion come from?). It is somewhat people like, yet It is way greater. That's what God is.

Whoops!! 

Not to mention this gem...


So BADecker, pray tell, how can any of your "proofs" (which are, by definition, based on the physics of the universe) tell us anything about a god which doesn't abide by those laws of physics?

Your "proofs" are ridiculous, both scientifically and philosophically.

 

The dumb part is the responses to the supposed dumb things that Christians say. It seems that when people are opposed to Christianity, they come up with all kinds of non-logical responses to the things of Christianity. This is what has happened at Fluffer's referenced site, above.

I just punched BADlogics "proof" stuff into Google and this appeared at #1.
http://www.liberalamerica.org/2014/04/10/the-21-dumbest-things-christians-have-ever-said/

 

Is it a fact that people breathe air? Is it a fact that they drink water? When I claim that they do, do I have to show you a bunch of links before you will know it? You can look all over the Internet yourself to find places that explain all about breathing air or drinking water.

While the info in my links might not be quite as readily expressed all over the Internet, it is still shown all over the place. All you have to do is put it together. If you can't do that little thing, I guess there isn't any reason for you to look for it.

No, all I'm saying is that if you're presenting something as a fact, you provide links to that. But, since you can't provide any links regarding your claims, and you're constantly avoiding the answer by asking questions yourself, that tells me that you know that such links do not exist and you just won't admit that you're wrong.

How can I avoid you looking at and reading websites? What does that even mean, me avoiding you doing something? I don't have anything to do with you or your research. Are you saying that they don't allow you to do Internet research where you live? If that is the case, it wouldn't do you any good if someone listed a whole bunch of links right here on Bitcointalk.

I'd take a look at them and read them, since that would be the scientific proof of gods existance but since you're avoid that, that means that suck links do not exist at all.

But in this case, the links are so abundant, that they are almost self evident. This means that if I provided them to you, you wouldn't look at them anyway. If you would, you would have done the simple research and found the info already, long ago.

No, I want you to provide some links because you're claiming something and since you didn't, that means that what you said was bullshit.

Well, you said, "lemme see ..."

I don't have any control over your life. I'm not stopping you from doing some research. And I'm not your stepping stone, either. Go right ahead and let yourself see some links if you want.

No, I asked you to provide some links. Well that's the reason I don't believe in any of the gods or fairy tales, I've started thinking on my own and didn't want some book from the sand people dictating my life.