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November 11, 2024, 02:46:48 AM
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Well op if I digest your write up and correlate to others field there is allot of lies what you called lies in crypto may be a strategy of an individual to convince an investor  many field has theirs depending on how you perceived it. Honestly speaking allot what your trying to point out occur in crypto space as a result of individual perception towards their investment propelled by their so called objective and goal while engaging in the crypto space.
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November 10, 2024, 03:13:42 PM
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A lot of traders portray a fake lifestyle either by showcasing a demo online to get the attention of gullible people... Traders that are actively Involved won't have time to sell courses or persuade people to join their mentorship classes or programs because they are too busy making money.. another reason why people hate realistic traders is because they make it seem like you can make money easily from the financial market without incurring any losses..as a beginner trader you must be ready to lose money but if you understand risk management your losses can be minimized.

I thought realistic traders are those being real, why person go take hate you for being real when you tell them the truth, na because them done full their minds with hopes that are almost impossible.

E just belike how them dey say, using this person signals or tools give you a guarantee profits. Wetin people no know na say those tools wey them dey sell are all programmed to give you a cut of the money you use to buy the tools for a particular period of time until it gets exhausted then it either stop working or you begin to see losses.

Hating on realistic traders na just stupidity and nothing more because why hating on someone that's telling you the truth.

We like when we're being lied to, just as some people dey talk say they should be lied to when they can't handle the truth, that's a wrong mentality and it won't help us in any way.
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November 10, 2024, 02:04:26 AM
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I gust this is what the crypto space is turning into now and if the mindset of an optimist traders is adopted by the newbies thing meant go wrong with time..

People enjoy lies more than the truth. It's how things work in the real world. Alot of these people nowadays look for the shortest way to make money in life and we all know that there's no shortcut to succeed.. what they want to hear is how to make millions in a short period, they dont have even care much about the process.. short term or long term trading, what ever type of investor you wanna become all takes a process.

Trading isn't a short term investment.. it's a marathon and not a sprint' most guru will tell you that.. the only person's who you find telling that trading will make you a fortune in a short term are likely trying to take money from you.. real traders will tell you how difficult it was for them... Long term trading is not easy as well because you also have to make sure you don't end up selling at the wrong time..
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November 09, 2024, 09:01:51 PM
#28
You have enough kinds/types of traders that are even new to me, kudos, but I seem to be confused now...lol.

Well, we should not define these traders too much, all traders can be realistic and optimistic with the same goal you defined above, all that matters is the DYOR of the person trying to follow or emulate them. There are enough of fake traders than real, which is why we should be careful.

Regardless, these days, people prefer hypes and those who are faking it, this is why most trading academic business creators are flourishing so well and flaunting their wealth for more victims to come to them. They are all hypes and I imagine how few of them struggle to make a little money for trading but from the affiliation with brokers and the money charged through teachings and trading products' selling.
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November 06, 2024, 06:54:43 AM
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- We have the realistic traders which i will elaborate on this are traders with the real goals of Hodling, Accumulating and also they focus more on the priorities stability of the trade and maybe in terms of the risk management's to and most of there goal is to achieve the keep accumulating process and Hodling using the long term strategy while trading...

Honestly if you are into long term plans. Then i don't see any reason to day trade your asset. You can probably just leave it for the duration of time you have in mind. Rather than day to day trade the asset which may lead to loss sometimes. As a trader its understandable that when we see some good opportunities we will want to try out what we have learnt so far and see if we can make profit in some market condition. I guess its literally all the habits of traders. However, it shouldn't be for all asset. When it comes to the stock exchange market, its fine if we can exhibit this attitude there. Because it is less volatile. But in Bitcoin trading, the market is highly volatile, that you can barely see a condition where the market is stable not even for a minute. Such attitude will not be favorable in Bitcoin trading. Its either we choose if we are in long term or short term. And if long term then we don't need to touch our investment everyday that we want to trade it even if we aren't withdrawing it. While in short term we clearly have made up our mind we want to take some quick gains and make good use of oppotunities in the market to cash out.
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November 05, 2024, 10:44:22 PM
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Honestly speaking if there is anything I have noticed and watch from a realistic crypto hodler and trader is the part of been truthful, nowadays most people's in the crypto space don't want to hear the truth but rather want to hear stories full of lies, why is this so?? If I may ask...
Normally the world is full of lies and we can't deny that fact,
And people also derive joy when they lie to them than when the truth is been said.

But any body wey say na lie better for am, that one concern am. Highes or Las Las  na scam coin E go buy come dey hope
To make money only to know say E don go buy scam coin or say E don go make big mistake for him life.


I gust this is what the crypto space is turning into now and if the mindset of an optimist traders is adopted by the newbies thing meant go wrong with time..
The matter dere be say even say even though people dey get that kind mindset of optimist trader, some people too dey get the mind of a HODLer. Those people dey accumulate small small for their bitcoin portfolio dey hope for more good days ahead. So no be everybody dey follow that part. Na only newbies wey no gree follow elder eat for table Naim go eat for ground.
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November 05, 2024, 05:54:04 PM
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A lot of traders portray a fake lifestyle either by showcasing a demo online to get the attention of gullible people... Traders that are actively Involved won't have time to sell courses or persuade people to join their mentorship classes or programs because they are too busy making money.. another reason why people hate realistic traders is because they make it seem like you can make money easily from the financial market without incurring any losses..as a beginner trader you must be ready to lose money but if you understand risk management your losses can be minimized.
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November 02, 2024, 11:27:57 AM
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Honestly speaking if there is anything I have noticed and watch from a realistic crypto hodler and trader is the part of been truthful, nowadays most people's in the crypto space don't want to hear the truth but rather want to hear stories full of lies, why is this so?? If I may ask...

I think it has to do with people's way of wanting a shortcut, because shortcuts always pleases them. One general advice that i think a realistic trader/hodler would tell a newbie is to always carry out proper research and gather all necessary information before doing anything, and you and i know very well that not everyone likes doing research, and in most cases, we find people jumping into some of these things, which later ends up in a terrible way for them.

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From the look for things and some little research I made the crypto space is divided into two types of investors and hodlers

Then what happened to traders?, because i believe that both traders and hodlers are investors as well.


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- We have the realistic traders which i will elaborate on this are traders with the real goals of Hodling, Accumulating and also they focus more on the priorities stability of the trade and maybe in terms of the risk management's to and most of there goal is to achieve the keep accumulating process and Hodling using the long term strategy while trading...

- We have the optimistic traders which I will say are always have there high Hope's on the trading speculation and putting their high hopes on the short term grain the funniest part of it they are kind of emotional when the trade is at a dip point, last but not the least their mindset are always set on getting-rich-qiuckly...

Don't really know how to respond to this. Your discussion about realistic traders doesn't correlate with the thread title.
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November 01, 2024, 06:14:32 PM
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Una good day my country people I dey greet una from this side ohh....I been see this content from Xapp I just say mak I bring am com table mak we just clarify on the matter.....

Honestly speaking if there is anything I have noticed and watch from a realistic crypto hodler and trader is the part of been truthful, nowadays most people's in the crypto space don't want to hear the truth but rather want to hear stories full of lies, why is this so?? If I may ask...


There is clear difference between both of them though they both invest but time frame matters some times.. at the same time a trader might still follow the pattern of a long Time frame but the difference is till there considering other factors...
The truth is not what the majority wants, they enjoy listening  and believing those lies... and the thing is that some of this people aren't completely telling lies, they are just using the majority as leverage, which means they have little/nothing  to loose even if they trade out of it  compare to individuals and once same individuals learn the trick  the cycle continue and grows bigger...
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November 01, 2024, 07:45:25 AM
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Op weldon but you go need some more understanding about the concepts wey you dey try explain and I want drop you this link to read up more because you gather them together and you no give better difference between them for lay man to understand https://www.techopedia.com/crypto-trading-vs-crypto-investing#:~:text=Crypto%20Trading%20vs.-,Investing%3A%20Key%20Differences,profiting%20from%20the%20market's%20volatility.

So basically, we get crypto trading and investor/speculator. Thus, inside this investor, na there you fit add holder.

If you dey talk of crypto trading, that one na person wey dey do buying and selling online on through exchange or other platform. Dem be either a daily trader, scalping, position trading or swing trading while investment also get concepts under am.

If you dey only hodl coin, you no be trader nor investor because some people just leave their coin for their wallet years after years without selling, so they are not also investors.
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October 31, 2024, 12:15:48 PM
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- We have the realistic traders which i will elaborate on this are traders with the real goals of Hodling, Accumulating and also they focus more on the priorities stability of the trade and maybe in terms of the risk management's to and most of there goal is to achieve the keep accumulating process and Hodling using the long term strategy while trading...
Hey mate you're confusing the whole idea of a trader and investor as though they are synonymous with each other. Crypto traders buy and sell cryptocurrency with each fluctuating opportunity that arises in the market to make profit. We have the sclapers, day and swing traders etc... Meanwhile it is cryptocurrency investors that hodl and accumulate their portfolio with a long term plan which could be for months or year(s). And should you plan on hodling any coin for a long time to make profit bitcoin is a sure plug.
Exactly, anyone who accumulates bitcoin without the intention of selling off for short-term gains can be referred to as an investor rather than a mere trader since he is only buying and not selling what he bought to make momentary gains. Investors have the highest potential of getting very much profitable in their bitcoin investment since it would experience the compounding effect that comes with investing in bitcoin for a long term.

Finally, refer to bitcoin separately and don't mix its reference to altcoins and shitcoins because although all are crypto, but they are not in the same level, so the distinction is very important.
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October 31, 2024, 11:15:21 AM
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The realistic traders can also fall in the category of the optimistic ones. No realistic trader is not optimistic, if they’re not, they will not believe in reality of to what the price of bitcoin will be or not. This gives them more confidence when they’re about to take a trade because of the certainty they’ve of the market and the realistic path it’ll follow.
A realistic trader is also optimistic. They wouldn't trade Bitcoin if they weren't hopeful. They study the market, make smart investments, and wait for the price to rise.

These traders are careful, not impulsive. They don't panic when the market drops. But deep down, they want the market to favor them, so they can make a profit. That's being optimistic too.

I appreciate realistic traders because they keep the trading world sane. When optimistic traders face market drops, some get emotional - crying, getting drunk, or feeling hopeless. But realistic traders bounce back.l after a while because they foresaw potential losses and stayed prepared.

Realistic traders balance optimism with caution, keeping the market stable. Optimistic traders help, but realistic ones bring balance.

Because realistic traders are hopeful but prepared for losses, that makes them reliable.
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October 24, 2024, 06:28:30 PM
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Honestly speaking if there is anything I have noticed and watch from a realistic crypto hodler and trader is the part of been truthful, nowadays most people's in the crypto space don't want to hear the truth but rather want to hear stories full of lies, why is this so?? If I may ask...

Life is mostly now about contents, everything you see, people doing it, is for contents. People now preferred to be lied to, to make them feel alright than to tell them the truth. Lies sell better and are believable than when you tell the truth. Lies are use to sell online courses that the content creators benefit from. People too lie to feel fulfilled and pretend to be who they're not but wished to be, so always expect lies in the industry especially as this is an industry that most of its participants brags.

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- We have the realistic traders which i will elaborate on this are traders with the real goals of Hodling, Accumulating and also they focus more on the priorities stability of the trade and maybe in terms of the risk management's to and most of there goal is to achieve the keep accumulating process and Hodling using the long term strategy while trading...

Traders aren't hodlers, don't do the later with hopes that you're doing the first. You can do both but when doing one of them, be specific about that to avoid being at a loss without knowing.I don't find any problem with being optimistic or realistic but don't just over do any because that's when you lose yourself (when you overdo anything).
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October 24, 2024, 01:37:52 PM
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Trading the financial market isn't an easy job and a lot of these traders deserve some accolades but most of them don't tell beginners the truth and that's where the problem is. There's nobody that makes money on something actively that would try to convince someone else to invest in it, these traders send a lot of people dms on social media platforms telling them to join their mentorship classes or try to sell Their courses because this is actually what gives them their money. If they were actively involved in trading they wouldn't have time to convince people to buy their courses.
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September 18, 2024, 06:46:17 AM
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I gust this is what the crypto space is turning into now and if the mindset of an optimist traders is adopted by the newbies thing meant go wrong with time..


I go just pick this part of your post to talk on because the other aspects look more confusing than convincing. Like what do you really mean by hating realistic trader?

However, talking about being optimistic in trading, it is not bad but you have to take away emotion and build more on your capacity in your trading skills then you can become optimistic when you don do the right thing. But you can't just randomly put trade on and become optimistic because of mere speculation and believing that market will favour you, it doesn't work that way. This optimism dey make new people for trading lose money because dem only see market price dey go up or down and then them go just run enter without research on within dey cause the movement. Trading no easy though and if e no favour you on your strategy then you stop instead of just being optimistic to get a better result without trading skill.
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September 17, 2024, 04:15:49 PM
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- We have the realistic traders which i will elaborate on this are traders with the real goals of Hodling, Accumulating and also they focus more on the priorities stability of the trade and maybe in terms of the risk management's to and most of there goal is to achieve the keep accumulating process and Hodling using the long term strategy while trading...

Don't know what you mean by realistic traders because a trader is a trader and they literally sort after short term profits so if you are talking about those who make accumulations and HODL then you are talking about the real investors and not traders. Trading is quite different from investing because traders are more concerned about the activities of the market and how to apply various techniques in order to make profits within a particular period of time but an investor is someone who is patient enough and focuses on buying and hodling for long term future growths without caring about market activities such as fluctuations of prices.

   You're mixing up things about trading and investing because the risk management of a trader and an investor is not the same because an investor can manage the risk assessment of their investment but for a trader, the risk assessment is even higher which can lead to losses no matter how you try to manage the situation.
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September 17, 2024, 03:01:12 PM
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Honestly speaking if there is anything I have noticed and watch from a realistic crypto hodler and trader is the part of been truthful, nowadays most people's in the crypto space don't want to hear the truth but rather want to hear stories full of lies, why is this so?? If I may ask...

From the look for things and some little research I made the crypto space is divided into two types of investors and hodlers

- We have the realistic traders which i will elaborate on this are traders with the real goals of Hodling,

From all you have explained I'm yet to understand the reason you mentioned that people in crypto dose not want to hear the truth because you should have also enlighten us why you think so, however from your definition about the various kind of investors shows that you don't understand trading or investment that much because your definition about realistic trader seem to be contradicting with a long term holding, so let me clarify you on that aspects, a trader is totally different from holding, so any kind of Bitcoin investment that has to do with buying and selling is consider to be trading while long term are those who holds there Bitcoin.
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September 17, 2024, 11:57:09 AM
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It is because people don't like when you tell them the truth.
They prefer that you sugarcoat it or give them false information over
Being sincere with them on the reality involved in trading or investing.
That is why they fall victim of traders that only lie about having best trading
Strategy even though those people are purely not being truthful.
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September 17, 2024, 11:30:28 AM
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From the look for things and some little research I made the crypto space is divided into two types of investors and hodlers
Traders are different from hodlers. When it comes to investment in bitcoin, we have short-term invstors and long-term invstors.

Short-term investors are classified as traders because they cannot hodli their bitcoin for complete four years because of profits, they sell whenever they see little profits. Some buy bitcoin and immediately they see a little profit, they sell immediately and hope to buy back when the price of bitcoin dips. While there are also some traders who buys bitcoin during the bear and sell when the bull run comes.

On the other, long-term investors are hodlers, they concentrate more on buying more bitcoin to increase their bitcoin stash because they see bitcoin as an investment that is worth hodli for long. Such people can buy and hodli their bitcoin for 4-10 years and above before thinking of selling part of it. A long-term investor must have a means of income use only use his extra cash to invest in bitcoin whenever he gets his pay so that he can hodli for long but this needs discipline and sacrifice.
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September 16, 2024, 04:22:40 PM
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Una good day my country people I dey greet una from this side ohh....I been see this content from Xapp I just say mak I bring am com table mak we just clarify on the matter.....

Honestly speaking if there is anything I have noticed and watch from a realistic crypto hodler and trader is the part of been truthful, nowadays most people's in the crypto space don't want to hear the truth but rather want to hear stories full of lies, why is this so?? If I may ask...

From the look for things and some little research I made the crypto space is divided into two types of investors and hodlers

- We have the realistic traders which i will elaborate on this are traders with the real goals of Hodling, Accumulating and also they focus more on the priorities stability of the trade and maybe in terms of the risk management's to and most of there goal is to achieve the keep accumulating process and Hodling using the long term strategy while trading...

- We have the optimistic traders which I will say are always have there high Hope's on the trading speculation and putting their high hopes on the short term grain the funniest part of it they are kind of emotional when the trade is at a dip point, last but not the least their mindset are always set on getting-rich-qiuckly...

I gust this is what the crypto space is turning into now and if the mindset of an optimist traders is adopted by the newbies thing meant go wrong with time..





I normally differentiate them as investors ( long-term investment) and traders (short-term investment). Because investors are those that literally believe that is not all about the profit one can make today or instantly, is about profit one can make in a long run (future). Imo trading is not bad , but it need a certain level of skills and knowledge before I can embark on it . Because going into trading with no knowledge or skill is like yah planning to get reckt intentionally.

While Investors especially when comes to bitcoin believe that in a long run bitcoin price will be different from now . In a good way , and the believe more the adoption, more bitcoin will tend to grow and surge more. I keep telling those that are trading, despite being a trading , be smart to also have a goud bitcoin Stashes.
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