Why I think all crypto is scam - page 12.

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Quote from: dnsokoljuk on November 19, 2019, 03:17:58 PM

Quote from: whotheff on November 18, 2019, 01:40:31 PM

First there is an announcement, then there is 3 year Roadmap,
extended each year with meaningless additions, fake recruiting of
employees, trade interrupts, software announcements, wallet updates, changes
quizes, games, givaways, airdrops, forks, ICOs etc, etc, etc.

I've seen several coins with great tech which is perfectly quick and secure, anonymous (or not) and safe.
They all have mobile wallets and wallets for every OS.
Despite this fact they cannot be adopted. Nobody wants to use them, there is no real need for them.
A team of good programmers could develop a blockchain which can replace banks and paper money
in a month. Another month for testing and another month for setting up nodes across the globe.
The main point behind all this is: who controlls these programmers?

Voilla. it is that easy.That is why I think all these announcements and Roadmaps are bullshit.

Disagree. That is true - most project only for grabing our money. But if crypto scam - than BTC scam. Why we don't say that fiat is a scam? It is only paper even without gold support.

Nice thought pal, just as i pictured it, if crypto is scam then bitcoin is scam and if bitcoin is scam then fiat is scam also, robert kiyosaki said why work for money when they are actually printing money fast every minutes? fiat is the biggest scam in history of mankind lol Cheesy

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indeed all cryptocurrency including bitcoin has potential for scams only that can still make cryptocurrency not scam, even ICO and IEO that are not scam are from requests and their use in a society that is increasingly the key because if there are no more demand then surely a cryptocurrency will be scam and no longer active.

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You say that crypto scam is probably because you haven't found a fixed token that can give you a big profit. and I also admit that most new projects or new altcoins are scams. but if because of this we say crypto scam I think that's wrong. because if we see there are a lot of crypto coins that are not scams and can give us a big advantage, namely the coins that are ranked top. we can make a profit when we buy and sell coins at the right time. therefore we must also always conduct research in order to avoid fraud and false speculation.

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Quote from: spadormie on November 19, 2019, 11:41:32 PM

Quote from: whotheff on November 18, 2019, 01:40:31 PM

A team of good programmers could develop a blockchain which can replace banks and paper money

I agree on your statement above but except for this. Why ICO projects are in need of marketing people? They need them because they need marketing for the business, they need them because ICO project should have a real project or a physical project. It's not all about programming. If it's a group of programmers then I can consider it as a scam since I'll immediately consider that as a ICO that does not have a physical project.

Programing and real products are needed in the cryptocurrency market. With good programming and also good products, investors will trust to invest more and have confidence that the project will be able to be independent quickly. A good project in my opinion is a project that has projected income from the sale or use of the product

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I think it's controlled by their team and could be manipulated. but what causes prices to fall is the big investors who sell low prices with the presale they get.

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If you don' t have a good sense of crypto currency, you' ll still think bad for it. Because the time is now towards the technology trend. The use of coin to apply to life is supported in developed countries. So i think the cryptocurrency will be supported in the future. And now it' s a good time for people to invest in it.

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Quote from: whotheff on November 18, 2019, 01:40:31 PM

First there is an announcement, then there is 3 year Roadmap,
extended each year with meaningless additions, fake recruiting of
employees, trade interrupts, software announcements, wallet updates, changes
quizes, games, givaways, airdrops, forks, ICOs etc, etc, etc.

I've seen several coins with great tech which is perfectly quick and secure, anonymous (or not) and safe.
They all have mobile wallets and wallets for every OS.
Despite this fact they cannot be adopted. Nobody wants to use them, there is no real need for them.
A team of good programmers could develop a blockchain which can replace banks and paper money
in a month. Another month for testing and another month for setting up nodes across the globe.
The main point behind all this is: who controlls these programmers?

Voilla. it is that easy.That is why I think all these announcements and Roadmaps are bullshit.

Cheers bro 🍺
I agree with everything you reveal, and even the 3-year roadmap isn't 100% sure they will stay alive for work.
we can see a year ago when altcoin ICO has sprung up with their technology offerings and promising roadmaps and what happens now?

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Quote from: whotheff on November 18, 2019, 01:40:31 PM

First there is an announcement, then there is 3 year Roadmap,
extended each year with meaningless additions, fake recruiting of
employees, trade interrupts, software announcements, wallet updates, changes
quizes, games, givaways, airdrops, forks, ICOs etc, etc, etc.

In the above paragraph you are talking about the ICO projects and only the curent ICO projects because these points which you mentioned are taking place only in the current ICOs and in the past the ICOs were much simple. So according to that above paragraph you cannot blame all the crypto.

Quote from: whotheff on November 18, 2019, 01:40:31 PM

I've seen several coins with great tech which is perfectly quick and secure, anonymous (or not) and safe.
They all have mobile wallets and wallets for every OS.
Despite this fact they cannot be adopted. Nobody wants to use them, there is no real need for them.

Those coins which you mentioned in that specific paragraph can easily be adopted and can be used but it only need our support in a perfect way. As we know that there are a number of services which accept crypto, there are a number of shops which accept crypto for purchasing but still we often use fiat or paypal on other places to buy these goods and services which are easily available with crypto payment.
One another problem is that those companies which accept crypto often do not do well marketing so many people think that these coins are not used in the real world.

Quote from: whotheff on November 18, 2019, 01:40:31 PM

A team of good programmers could develop a blockchain which can replace banks and paper money
in a month. Another month for testing and another month for setting up nodes across the globe.
The main point behind all this is: who controlls these programmers?

Voilla. it is that easy.That is why I think all these announcements and Roadmaps are bullshit.

All the crypto processes are decentralized and the programmers are not controlled by any power or a group but as banks and paper money is controlled and supported by the governments so for replacing it the government involvement will be required. In the start the governments were against the crypto but now it looks like the governments are taking action to adopt crypto

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Quote from: whotheff on November 18, 2019, 01:40:31 PM

A team of good programmers could develop a blockchain which can replace banks and paper money

I agree on your statement above but except for this. Why ICO projects are in need of marketing people? They need them because they need marketing for the business, they need them because ICO project should have a real project or a physical project. It's not all about programming. If it's a group of programmers then I can consider it as a scam since I'll immediately consider that as a ICO that does not have a physical project.

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Quote from: whotheff on November 18, 2019, 01:40:31 PM

First there is an announcement, then there is 3 year Roadmap,
extended each year with meaningless additions, fake recruiting of
employees, trade interrupts, software announcements, wallet updates, changes
quizes, games, givaways, airdrops, forks, ICOs etc, etc, etc.

I've seen several coins with great tech which is perfectly quick and secure, anonymous (or not) and safe.
They all have mobile wallets and wallets for every OS.
Despite this fact they cannot be adopted. Nobody wants to use them, there is no real need for them.
A team of good programmers could develop a blockchain which can replace banks and paper money
in a month. Another month for testing and another month for setting up nodes across the globe.
The main point behind all this is: who controlls these programmers?

Voilla. it is that easy.That is why I think all these announcements and Roadmaps are bullshit.

I fully agree with this roadmaps and whitepapers are all just promises and even a 10year old boy can make a disrupting idea like that. Thats why im out for all those projects that promises a lot. As long as one promises didnt get materialized,I consider it as a red flag and move on to the next project. What I really want to support right now is that they dont have fundraising but a pure developments in the product using their own money. And that is very hard to find because they didnt give funds for marketing.

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Quote from: alrose on November 19, 2019, 04:15:47 PM

Quote from: tenakha on November 18, 2019, 05:18:19 PM

I sometimes ask myself: if crypto was not considered as a mechanism for making fast money, would it have attracted so much attention? Probably not. Almost the value of coin with USD is every thing. Trading is not wrong thing, USD itself is also traded today. But, USD is used in real life as required, so what about crypto? I guess the answer is no again.

You have to understand that right now we are in limbo.Read the book: Jacques Attali.A brief history of the future.Most likely from it You will understand that our future is decentralized and it seems to me that cryptocurrencies in any case will occupy a niche and will be used by many countries.just not the time yet.Alas, now the market is speculative and everyone wants to make money on it.But the real purpose of crypto we will all see not immediately, but gradually.

I thought that for everyone it became obvious that cryptocurrency in the future will be one of the most important tools in the economy and will be one of the most used funds. of course, we don’t know when it will be but we have a good opportunity to be the first in it

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Quote from: dnsokoljuk on November 19, 2019, 03:17:58 PM

Disagree. That is true - most project only for grabing our money. But if crypto scam - than BTC scam. Why we don't say that fiat is a scam? It is only paper even without gold support.

Bitcoin is created as a decentralized currency but everyone wants to pounce on the opportunity and started coming out with their version of the coin, we do not want several version of the coin and some started out for fun and started having huge followers and that includes litecoin and dogecoin for example, if you are looking for having a revolution, we need to focus on one coin rather than several thousands.

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Quote from: tenakha on November 18, 2019, 05:18:19 PM

I sometimes ask myself: if crypto was not considered as a mechanism for making fast money, would it have attracted so much attention? Probably not. Almost the value of coin with USD is every thing. Trading is not wrong thing, USD itself is also traded today. But, USD is used in real life as required, so what about crypto? I guess the answer is no again.

You have to understand that right now we are in limbo.Read the book: Jacques Attali.A brief history of the future.Most likely from it You will understand that our future is decentralized and it seems to me that cryptocurrencies in any case will occupy a niche and will be used by many countries.just not the time yet.Alas, now the market is speculative and everyone wants to make money on it.But the real purpose of crypto we will all see not immediately, but gradually.

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Quote from: whotheff on November 18, 2019, 01:40:31 PM

First there is an announcement, then there is 3 year Roadmap,
extended each year with meaningless additions, fake recruiting of
employees, trade interrupts, software announcements, wallet updates, changes
quizes, games, givaways, airdrops, forks, ICOs etc, etc, etc.

I've seen several coins with great tech which is perfectly quick and secure, anonymous (or not) and safe.
They all have mobile wallets and wallets for every OS.
Despite this fact they cannot be adopted. Nobody wants to use them, there is no real need for them.
A team of good programmers could develop a blockchain which can replace banks and paper money
in a month. Another month for testing and another month for setting up nodes across the globe.
The main point behind all this is: who controlls these programmers?

Voilla. it is that easy.That is why I think all these announcements and Roadmaps are bullshit.

Lol. Quite hilarious. Frankly, 99 percent of all cryptocurrency projects are profit oriented. This speech "we are doing it for the tech" or "we are here for adoption" are all bollocks created to deceive unsuspecting members of the cryptocurrency ecosystem to buy their coins while they smile to tether. Do the best you can and never forget to look after yourself in crypto. Once you waste time in any trade, chances are you might get dumped om

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I do not agree that all crypto is fraudulent, in theory each project has a different concept and plan from one another. the project has a product development structure in accordance with the plan in the project WP / Roadmap. the project can run well if the developer can do it right. The point is that project fraud or failure depends on the developer and how much they care in developing products for the market, the opportunities for project success are wide open. it's just that now many new developers no longer care about previous projects.

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Quote from: hirngespenst on November 19, 2019, 01:48:25 AM

Though you are right, but some projects really trying hard to make a big step in the crypto world. I have seen some projects who keep updated their community with all the latest updates about their products and use case! Though most of the projects failed later, but we can't ignore their hard work. Many good projects already achieved what they deserved! Like ONE, MATIC, TOKO are new projects but if you follow their update channel then you know they are trying to make the vision possible!

and guess what is the irony? those projects with real use case and vision to change the world get abandoned.

the real project tend to offers less profit in the short term as they are focusing on the long term utility so it is not surprising that not much people get interested in the real project and prefer to choose a project that offering a non sense return, non sense promises.
you are the one who choose to get involved in the fake project , still blame the whole cryptocurrency space concept, what a tenacious dumb lol.

do a research thoroughly and invest with a mindset to not making money, you will find peace with this.

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Quote from: whotheff on November 18, 2019, 01:40:31 PM

First there is an announcement, then there is 3 year Roadmap,
extended each year with meaningless additions, fake recruiting of
employees, trade interrupts, software announcements, wallet updates, changes
quizes, games, givaways, airdrops, forks, ICOs etc, etc, etc.

I've seen several coins with great tech which is perfectly quick and secure, anonymous (or not) and safe.
They all have mobile wallets and wallets for every OS.
Despite this fact they cannot be adopted. Nobody wants to use them, there is no real need for them.
A team of good programmers could develop a blockchain which can replace banks and paper money
in a month. Another month for testing and another month for setting up nodes across the globe.
The main point behind all this is: who controlls these programmers?

Voilla. it is that easy.That is why I think all these announcements and Roadmaps are bullshit.

Disagree. That is true - most project only for grabing our money. But if crypto scam - than BTC scam. Why we don't say that fiat is a scam? It is only paper even without gold support.

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Quote from: whotheff on November 18, 2019, 01:40:31 PM

A team of good programmers could develop a blockchain which can replace banks and paper money
in a month.

But they can't do that and if they could it would have already happened with bitcoin. Banks probably won't ever be replaced by crypto and even if they were to be, it would be an incredibly difficult transition and a drawn out one at that with much political fighting and turmoil.

I disagree with op's take on crypto, but I do agree that most new coins and especially tokens that come out aren't worth owning, because they don't offer any improvements on what's already available. But it does not matter if there is no adoption in terms of spending crypto for goods or services. Bitcoin/crypto still have value, and the market agrees with me. Because of that, they can make you money. And if you wanted to spend bitcoin on something, you certainly could.

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You are absolutely right, most of the projects are bullshit.

Agree. But this doesn't mean that *all* projects (coins) are bullshit.

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Quote from: whotheff on November 18, 2019, 01:40:31 PM

First there is an announcement, then there is 3 year Roadmap,
extended each year with meaningless additions, fake recruiting of
employees, trade interrupts, software announcements, wallet updates, changes
quizes, games, givaways, airdrops, forks, ICOs etc, etc, etc.

I've seen several coins with great tech which is perfectly quick and secure, anonymous (or not) and safe.
They all have mobile wallets and wallets for every OS.
Despite this fact they cannot be adopted. Nobody wants to use them, there is no real need for them.
A team of good programmers could develop a blockchain which can replace banks and paper money
in a month. Another month for testing and another month for setting up nodes across the globe.
The main point behind all this is: who controlls these programmers?

Voilla. it is that easy.That is why I think all these announcements and Roadmaps are bullshit.

Hmm, maybe you are right in something, but I don’t think the whole creep industry is scam. Also, I do not think that the completed program in one month can be taken for use by banks or other structures. As far as I know, all that we see right now is startups, which are watched by large players and when a promising development is revealed, they just buy it for themselves. Now there is no need to spend a lot of money and time on the development of a particular platform. Ordinary people create all this, and you and I raise all this to the surface. Already from the surface, large players find the best and take it for themselves.

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Quote from: bitLeap on November 19, 2019, 12:53:13 PM

Quote from: whotheff on November 18, 2019, 01:40:31 PM

First there is an announcement, then there is 3 year Roadmap,
extended each year with meaningless additions, fake recruiting of
employees, trade interrupts, software announcements, wallet updates, changes
quizes, games, givaways, airdrops, forks, ICOs etc, etc, etc.

I've seen several coins with great tech which is perfectly quick and secure, anonymous (or not) and safe.
They all have mobile wallets and wallets for every OS.
Despite this fact they cannot be adopted. Nobody wants to use them, there is no real need for them.
A team of good programmers could develop a blockchain which can replace banks and paper money
in a month. Another month for testing and another month for setting up nodes across the globe.
The main point behind all this is: who controlls these programmers?

Voilla. it is that easy.That is why I think all these announcements and Roadmaps are bullshit.

very silly opinion, if indeed you are a long time member you will know how to judge a project, the problem of the roadmap is indeed the schedule or future plans for developing a project, every plan does need a schedule,

so if you judge/see the first project not in terms of the roadmap

Roadmap is most important thing how to make investor trust with ICO site, during with roadmap schedule is destination from investor become investor with some ICO project, but we find many ICO never allowed how schedule planned with always delay from distributing bonus coin for investor until delay for listing with exchange.

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