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Topic: Why is BITMAIN selling used products ? - page 4. (Read 3938 times)

hero member
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June 10, 2014, 10:58:41 PM
#23
Ok so let me get this straight.

You have stock because you likely over produced the miners.
So you mine them and then you sell them as orders come in.

Did anyone ask if they were new?
Did anyone ask if they were mined previously?
Is there any statement anywhere on the site they are new and never mined?

Just wondering.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
June 10, 2014, 10:43:40 PM
#22
welcome to reality OP.

it IS disgusting!

it IS immoral!

it IS dishonest!

it IS greedy!

and it probably is illegal, but theyre based in china with a very different mentality than what you may be accustomed to.

he/they also sell;

broken, poorly packaged, late shipped products complete with;

shit PSUs, shit SD cards, shit chinese PSU cables, SHIT thermal compound application & my absolute favourite - SHIT technical assistance & customer service.


dogie approves & justifies this conduct...


iglasses gets it. not much to be done other than sort it out yourself the best you can or abstain from buying.

or you could cut n paste a bunch of stuff and then contact every manufacturer requesting evaluation rigs, this will not gove you a rounded perspective as to their actual behaviour as they will send you a good rig and in good time for free.

but at least you will have positioned yourself well to suck their balls publicly for the awesome gear they gave you for fuck all - while rubbing ppls noses in it who purchased their rigs with their own money and got shafted again and again.


the choice as they say, is yours.

   Well to be more accurate you are complaining about the s-2. 

  My s-1 experience was pretty good. I never purchased an s-2 and I think that I won't buy one.

 The psu is high quailty ,but   it is not rated for running the s-2. 

  a 1200 watt or a 1300 watt  is the correct size. 

 Anyone that purchased an s-2  with knowledge of the psu being too weak and needing to be replaced.

 But the s-2 had poor packing  and bitmaintech has given poor support for the broken ones.

legendary
Activity: 1848
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June 10, 2014, 09:50:00 PM
#21
welcome to reality OP.

it IS disgusting!

it IS immoral!

it IS dishonest!

it IS greedy!

and it probably is illegal, but theyre based in china with a very different mentality than what you may be accustomed to.

he/they also sell;

broken, poorly packaged, late shipped products complete with;

shit PSUs, shit SD cards, shit chinese PSU cables, SHIT thermal compound application & my absolute favourite - SHIT technical assistance & customer service.


dogie approves & justifies this conduct...


iglasses gets it. not much to be done other than sort it out yourself the best you can or abstain from buying.

or you could cut n paste a bunch of stuff and then contact every manufacturer requesting evaluation rigs, this will not gove you a rounded perspective as to their actual behaviour as they will send you a good rig and in good time for free.

but at least you will have positioned yourself well to suck their balls publicly for the awesome gear they gave you for fuck all - while rubbing ppls noses in it who purchased their rigs with their own money and got shafted again and again.


the choice as they say, is yours.
legendary
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June 10, 2014, 02:42:31 PM
#20
Yes this is happening.
There is nothing you can do about it.
If it's that important to you don't buy from them.
If you can find a vendor that doesn't do this I'd be happy to be a customer of theirs.
legendary
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June 10, 2014, 02:14:36 PM
#19
May be because his basement is dirty and you need a vacum cleaner to suck the dust from a unit tested for just a couple of hours Grin
At least that was last official statement from bitmain as far as I remember Grin
But any way if you are happy with the price and stuff is working who cares Wink
hero member
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June 10, 2014, 01:34:54 PM
#18
Some funny answers here guys.

Yeah i know there is no legal recourse thats why im posting it publicly.

Raise awareness on their shadiness is the only thing i can do.

nobody gives a hoot about it, all that matters-performance.
Plus your raising awareness about a product they don't even make anymore. Good luck on your crusade.
legendary
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Merit: 4331
June 10, 2014, 01:10:47 PM
#17
Some funny answers here guys.

Yeah i know there is no legal recourse thats why im posting it publicly.

Raise awareness on their shadiness is the only thing i can do.

nobody gives a hoot about it, all that matters is performance.
sr. member
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June 10, 2014, 11:17:08 AM
#16
To be fair, they never advertised the units as new. That was said a little tongue in cheek. That aside, yes its a little disingenuous but better than being a hashfast/cointerra/bfl customer that never got their miner.
hero member
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June 10, 2014, 11:14:55 AM
#15
Some funny answers here guys.

Yeah i know there is no legal recourse thats why im posting it publicly.

Raise awareness on their shadiness is the only thing i can do.
legendary
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June 10, 2014, 11:08:29 AM
#14
They could solve it easily anyway if they will notice this thread they will just clean it with compressed air and ship them after that.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
June 10, 2014, 11:04:32 AM
#13
1) Does it matter? The warranty provided is the same
2) Dust can build up very, very quickly.

Yes it does matter.

The warranty is a joke, who are you laughing at here ??
There were months of buildup dust in there. Saying that this could be done in days is plain retarded.

Does it matter if i spit in your soup ? Tastes the same, looks the same, smells the same,  wont make you sick, your meal is as nutritive etc. I believe it matters no?


Plus last i heard selling used products as new product is illegal.

Okay here is the deal.  You are completely absolutely correct.  But lets face it you have 0 recourse none zip because you purchased with btc.

Your option are only buy mining gear from sellers that allow paypal or a credit card you will then have recourse. Reading threads/posts about my bitmaintech gear came used have been around for months you had to have read them and yet your purchased from them any way.

   Here is a list of good gear with a paypal option   decent price 1th units for btc mining

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wwweasy2minecom-340-the-group-buy-of-antminer-s5psu-included-514758


and zoomhash.com sells a grid seed blade with a paypal option.     I am sure there are other sellers with decent prices and paypal/credit card options.

I have 1 1th unit from the thread I linked and I have 4 grid seed blades from zoom hash all paid with by paypal. On june 21 or june 22 I will buy again from one or both of them.
hero member
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better everyday ♥
June 10, 2014, 10:51:38 AM
#12
That's the risk involved with ordering something all the way around the globe.

What are you going to do, request RMA it back and wait for a new one?   Tongue

Even a day lost BTC mining in precious.  Time is indeed money with setup costs, maintaining and tweaking, and monitoring the miners to make sure they're stable.

You know those compressed air cannisters used to blow dust off PC's and keyboards?  Use them.   Grin
sr. member
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June 10, 2014, 10:45:22 AM
#11
don't worry kncminer do same thing
hero member
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June 10, 2014, 10:45:01 AM
#10
1) Does it matter? The warranty provided is the same
2) Dust can build up very, very quickly.

Yes it does matter.

The warranty is a joke, who are you laughing at here ??
There were months of buildup dust in there. Saying that this could be done in days is plain retarded.

Does it matter if i spit in your soup ? Tastes the same, looks the same, smells the same,  wont make you sick, your meal is as nutritive etc. I believe it matters no?


Plus last i heard selling used products as new product is illegal.
Your buying shit from China, get real.
hero member
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June 10, 2014, 10:38:17 AM
#9
1) Does it matter? The warranty provided is the same
2) Dust can build up very, very quickly.

Yes it does matter.

The warranty is a joke, who are you laughing at here ??
There were months of buildup dust in there. Saying that this could be done in days is plain retarded.

Does it matter if i spit in your soup ? Tastes the same, looks the same, smells the same,  wont make you sick, your meal is as nutritive etc. I believe it matters no?


Plus last i heard selling used products as new product is illegal.
sr. member
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June 10, 2014, 10:15:08 AM
#8
They sell used gear because people will buy it. Double ROI.

Simply this.
Plus it shouldn't surprise anyone, many companies if not all of them follow this practice.
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Space Lord
June 10, 2014, 09:33:39 AM
#7
Ha! There's your proof that they are mining for themselves before selling the units.
ZiG
sr. member
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June 10, 2014, 09:32:27 AM
#6
1) Does it matter? The warranty provided is the same
2) Dust can build up very, very quickly.

Specially in China... Grin
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
June 10, 2014, 09:25:33 AM
#5
1) Does it matter? The warranty provided is the same
2) Dust can build up very, very quickly.
hero member
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June 10, 2014, 08:50:56 AM
#4
They sell used gear because people will buy it. Double ROI.
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