Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un? - page 2.

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Quote from: Maximilian_333 on April 25, 2017, 03:38:23 PM

And today Russia has no American troops on its border? The Russians themselves are to blame. Not only do they attack their neighbors, but also constantly provoke the West. For this reason, it turns out everything is just the opposite.

Russia has American troops on its borders, especially in Finland, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. But Russia has not invaded any of these nations. And regarding Ukraine, there was no Russian invasion. There is an ongoing civil war between the Westerners and the Easterners, and Russia is not directly involved.

LOL! Precisely Russia and the war in those countries. Who fought in Georgia? About the purchase of weapons and tanks in stores Putin laugh the whole world. You have outdated techniques. Already Putin himself acknowledged that Russian troops were involved in the seizure of Crimea. In Ukraine there is no civil war, and Russian will answer for it as answered Hitler's Germany.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 26, 2017, 12:47:00 AM

Quote from: Maximilian_333 on April 25, 2017, 03:38:23 PM

And today Russia has no American troops on its border? The Russians themselves are to blame. Not only do they attack their neighbors, but also constantly provoke the West. For this reason, it turns out everything is just the opposite.

Russia has American troops on its borders, especially in Finland, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. But Russia has not invaded any of these nations. And regarding Ukraine, there was no Russian invasion. There is an ongoing civil war between the Westerners and the Easterners, and Russia is not directly involved.

Might be the reason they're not invading? And also, didn't Russia just ANNEXED Crimea?

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Quote from: Forester618 on April 26, 2017, 08:21:30 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 26, 2017, 04:52:39 AM

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Quote from: gentlemand on April 25, 2017, 03:40:27 PM

Russia wants to appear to be a world power, though I've no fucking idea why as it's a pointless and wasteful role.

To do that I suppose they decide to prop up the cheapest options out there with the most to gain from being given a hand job by them. And it annoys everyone else.

Russia does not want to seem like a world power, and it is a strong world power led by a powerful ruler. And it really annoys everyone, but they can not do anything.

Russia is still a shadow of its former self. If you compare Russia as of now and the USSR of the early 1980s, then it is clear. The USSR had a population of close to 300 million, and their armed forces were as powerful as that of the United States. Now if you look at Russia, it is having a population of only around 145 million, and the armed forces are clearly inferior to that of the Americans. That said, their resurgence after 1999, when Putin took over has been nothing short of a miracle.

Under Putin, Russia has become even worse than it was. How would Putin's propaganda did not shout about their successes really demonstrate to them no one can. Russian during this time quarreled with almost all its neighbours. Now is a potential enemy. Modern Russian weapons too, on their own can not do, and components abroad can not buy because they are under sanctions.

Well that could also be because there are a lot of international rules now that putin choosesnto follow compared to before. I think it's safe for us that russia isn't as powerful as back then but still they have a very good capability of causing damage to any nation. Though i don't think putin would be that dumb to initiate any conflicts that he knows may very well destroy his people

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 26, 2017, 04:52:39 AM

Quote from: Aikonio on April 26, 2017, 04:39:50 AM

Quote from: gentlemand on April 25, 2017, 03:40:27 PM

Russia wants to appear to be a world power, though I've no fucking idea why as it's a pointless and wasteful role.

To do that I suppose they decide to prop up the cheapest options out there with the most to gain from being given a hand job by them. And it annoys everyone else.

Russia does not want to seem like a world power, and it is a strong world power led by a powerful ruler. And it really annoys everyone, but they can not do anything.

Russia is still a shadow of its former self. If you compare Russia as of now and the USSR of the early 1980s, then it is clear. The USSR had a population of close to 300 million, and their armed forces were as powerful as that of the United States. Now if you look at Russia, it is having a population of only around 145 million, and the armed forces are clearly inferior to that of the Americans. That said, their resurgence after 1999, when Putin took over has been nothing short of a miracle.

Under Putin, Russia has become even worse than it was. How would Putin's propaganda did not shout about their successes really demonstrate to them no one can. Russian during this time quarreled with almost all its neighbours. Now is a potential enemy. Modern Russian weapons too, on their own can not do, and components abroad can not buy because they are under sanctions.

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Quote from: Aikonio on April 26, 2017, 04:39:50 AM

Quote from: gentlemand on April 25, 2017, 03:40:27 PM

Russia wants to appear to be a world power, though I've no fucking idea why as it's a pointless and wasteful role.

To do that I suppose they decide to prop up the cheapest options out there with the most to gain from being given a hand job by them. And it annoys everyone else.

Russia does not want to seem like a world power, and it is a strong world power led by a powerful ruler. And it really annoys everyone, but they can not do anything.

Russia is still a shadow of its former self. If you compare Russia as of now and the USSR of the early 1980s, then it is clear. The USSR had a population of close to 300 million, and their armed forces were as powerful as that of the United States. Now if you look at Russia, it is having a population of only around 145 million, and the armed forces are clearly inferior to that of the Americans. That said, their resurgence after 1999, when Putin took over has been nothing short of a miracle.

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Quote from: gentlemand on April 25, 2017, 03:40:27 PM

Russia wants to appear to be a world power, though I've no fucking idea why as it's a pointless and wasteful role.

To do that I suppose they decide to prop up the cheapest options out there with the most to gain from being given a hand job by them. And it annoys everyone else.

Russia does not want to seem like a world power, and it is a strong world power led by a powerful ruler. And it really annoys everyone, but they can not do anything.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 20, 2017, 09:59:26 PM

They should have been overthrown by the locals, and not by the Americans. Who gave the Americans the permission to topple the governments all over the world? They should stop playing the world police.

Lol, the instant they stop making war all over the world, USA is dead.

USA is a just a vampire eating from several corpses at the same time. They need ressources and money from all over the world to support their stupid way of life. They can't allow anyone to even slightly defy them or they'd be completely destroyed by their own stupidity and internal politics.

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Quote from: gentlemand on April 25, 2017, 03:40:27 PM

Russia wants to appear to be a world power, though I've no fucking idea why as it's a pointless and wasteful role.

To do that I suppose they decide to prop up the cheapest options out there with the most to gain from being given a hand job by them. And it annoys everyone else.

Quote from: ValeryBark on April 25, 2017, 03:45:23 PM

If the Russians know that their country is shit, and they are the poor slaves that will lead to the fact that Putin's throw from the Kremlin. He is very afraid and therefore tries to maintain the myth about the greatness of Russia.

It would be sad if true. From going to stars to that...

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Quote from: Maximilian_333 on April 25, 2017, 03:38:23 PM

And today Russia has no American troops on its border? The Russians themselves are to blame. Not only do they attack their neighbors, but also constantly provoke the West. For this reason, it turns out everything is just the opposite.

Russia has American troops on its borders, especially in Finland, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. But Russia has not invaded any of these nations. And regarding Ukraine, there was no Russian invasion. There is an ongoing civil war between the Westerners and the Easterners, and Russia is not directly involved.

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If the Russians know that their country is shit, and they are the poor slaves that will lead to the fact that Putin's throw from the Kremlin. He is very afraid and therefore tries to maintain the myth about the greatness of Russia.

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Russia wants to appear to be a world power, though I've no fucking idea why as it's a pointless and wasteful role.

To do that I suppose they decide to prop up the cheapest options out there with the most to gain from being given a hand job by them. And it annoys everyone else.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 21, 2017, 11:23:05 PM

Quote from: darkangel11 on April 21, 2017, 04:51:16 PM

Russia used to make friends with other socialist countries. They smuggled weapons to Vietnam, sold their old ships to China, and now they're trying to help Kim stand his ground.
It's understandable that they don't want to allow USA to tip the balance of power. Kim is one of the few people crazy enough to attack USA and that would be an opportunity for Putin.
Who knows what he's planning, I'd expect an annexation of Ukraine or something like that.

Russia and China don't want any more American military bases on their borders, and that is the only reason why they are supporting Kim Jong Un. How would the Americans feel, if Russia sets up military bases along the US-Mexican border?

And today Russia has no American troops on its border? The Russians themselves are to blame. Not only do they attack their neighbors, but also constantly provoke the West. For this reason, it turns out everything is just the opposite.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 20, 2017, 09:59:26 PM

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 20, 2017, 11:01:57 AM

In the past, Russia has supported Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, and Bashar al Assad. On each of these occasions, they were proven right. After the fall of Gaddafi, Libya became a paradise for human smugglers. And when Saddam was ousted, he was replaced by Abu Bakr al Baghdadi. Now the Americans are trying to topple Bashar al Assad, fully knowing that the ISIS will replace him.

Sigh. And America has also supported dictators in the past, remember when dictatorships like Marcos were rampant during the Cold War era? And that only to stop the spread of communism. Russia and US basically played Earth like a chessboard those days.

There was no denying Saddam was horrible... how many times has he tried invading his neighbors? I'm not sure about Gaddaffi but he probably also did some horrible stuff to some people there (he did provide them education and internet, and that was his downfall). But however horrible they may be, they kept all these radicals in check and whatever troubles they have usually stayed within their borders.

I agree they should have been replaced, but more gradually, with enough time for democratic institutions to built up first.. Embarrassed

They should have been overthrown by the locals, and not by the Americans. Who gave the Americans the permission to topple the governments all over the world? They should stop playing the world police.

It's like locals can do anything. Even in China, they'll just take you if you're a dissident. It's not like the people there can do anything without outside intervention. This is where China and America come in. It is to America's benefit that there is no dictator there threatening to nuke everything. It is to China's benefit that their neighbor don't get embroiled in nasty, if not radioactive, war.

Best option without needing anyone to invade someone? Regime change. Just kick fat Mickey out and replace him with a more docile leader. Since the regime's policy of deifying eternal grampa Kim probably already got up people's brains, they would need to select from the Kim family. Mickey probably already realized this as he has already started killing relatives.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on April 21, 2017, 04:51:16 PM

Russia used to make friends with other socialist countries. They smuggled weapons to Vietnam, sold their old ships to China, and now they're trying to help Kim stand his ground.
It's understandable that they don't want to allow USA to tip the balance of power. Kim is one of the few people crazy enough to attack USA and that would be an opportunity for Putin.
Who knows what he's planning, I'd expect an annexation of Ukraine or something like that.

Russia and China don't want any more American military bases on their borders, and that is the only reason why they are supporting Kim Jong Un. How would the Americans feel, if Russia sets up military bases along the US-Mexican border?

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i don't see koreans sailing around the world dropping bombs on a new country every other month for no good reason. the dprk isn't bothering anyone and neither for that matter are the other nations jewmerica labels as "bad guys" such as syria iran or the palestinians. it is only in the minds of brainwashed westerners that they are the aggressors.

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Russia used to make friends with other socialist countries. They smuggled weapons to Vietnam, sold their old ships to China, and now they're trying to help Kim stand his ground.
It's understandable that they don't want to allow USA to tip the balance of power. Kim is one of the few people crazy enough to attack USA and that would be an opportunity for Putin.
Who knows what he's planning, I'd expect an annexation of Ukraine or something like that.

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It's obvious that Putin wants to restore old Russian empire or USSR.
He is doing everything in his power to keep control over the territory of the former USSR, ruining governments that oppose him, like in Ukraine or Georgia, and supporting friendly governments in Belarus, for example.
North Korea, Libya, Iraq, Syria etc. for Putin are just chess figures, in his game for global power and dominance.
Putin also using natural resources, like oil and gas, in order to dominate Europe and other countries.
Putin don't care about nuclear weapons in North Korea.
For him is only important to create as many problems as possible to America, so that he can have more freedom to do what he wants in other countries.

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Quote from: TheCoinGrabber on April 20, 2017, 12:38:49 PM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 20, 2017, 11:01:57 AM

In the past, Russia has supported Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, and Bashar al Assad. On each of these occasions, they were proven right. After the fall of Gaddafi, Libya became a paradise for human smugglers. And when Saddam was ousted, he was replaced by Abu Bakr al Baghdadi. Now the Americans are trying to topple Bashar al Assad, fully knowing that the ISIS will replace him.

Sigh. And America has also supported dictators in the past, remember when dictatorships like Marcos were rampant during the Cold War era? And that only to stop the spread of communism. Russia and US basically played Earth like a chessboard those days.

There was no denying Saddam was horrible... how many times has he tried invading his neighbors? I'm not sure about Gaddaffi but he probably also did some horrible stuff to some people there (he did provide them education and internet, and that was his downfall). But however horrible they may be, they kept all these radicals in check and whatever troubles they have usually stayed within their borders.

I agree they should have been replaced, but more gradually, with enough time for democratic institutions to built up first.. Embarrassed

They should have been overthrown by the locals, and not by the Americans. Who gave the Americans the permission to topple the governments all over the world? They should stop playing the world police.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 20, 2017, 11:01:57 AM

In the past, Russia has supported Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, and Bashar al Assad. On each of these occasions, they were proven right. After the fall of Gaddafi, Libya became a paradise for human smugglers. And when Saddam was ousted, he was replaced by Abu Bakr al Baghdadi. Now the Americans are trying to topple Bashar al Assad, fully knowing that the ISIS will replace him.

Sigh. And America has also supported dictators in the past, remember when dictatorships like Marcos were rampant during the Cold War era? And that only to stop the spread of communism. Russia and US basically played Earth like a chessboard those days.

There was no denying Saddam was horrible... how many times has he tried invading his neighbors? I'm not sure about Gaddaffi but he probably also did some horrible stuff to some people there (he did provide them education and internet, and that was his downfall). But however horrible they may be, they kept all these radicals in check and whatever troubles they have usually stayed within their borders.

I agree they should have been replaced, but more gradually, with enough time for democratic institutions to built up first.. Embarrassed

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In the past, Russia has supported Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, and Bashar al Assad. On each of these occasions, they were proven right. After the fall of Gaddafi, Libya became a paradise for human smugglers. And when Saddam was ousted, he was replaced by Abu Bakr al Baghdadi. Now the Americans are trying to topple Bashar al Assad, fully knowing that the ISIS will replace him.

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