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Topic: Why is the activity required for Legendary random? (Read 1480 times)

sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 251
I guess the legendary rank is supposed to be the highest, and it is, so they make it perilously hard to get to, as it is specifically reserved for people who are long-lasting members of the community. That's also why they're discussing a new rank, I guess.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
If it were me, I would 'promote' people to legendary based on their constructive contribution. Not just at a random activity level above Hero.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
It doesn't completely differentiate from hero. I would believe some people that pay for their advertisement usually don't mind what rank you are and pay some people equally. Not all of course, just some. For most of them, all they pay for is the advertisement you give them.


If anything, it doesn't make sense to pay someone for every post made. They should pay them once for putting it in the signature, then be done with it
copper member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1499
No I dont escrow anymore.

Thanks for the NSFW warning.

You're welcome. BTW, is he banned for posting NSFW stuffs? Tongue


A different algorithm compared to what? The algorithm to determine when you will be legendary was posted by theymos. It only relies on the user id and a secret hash that is identical for all users but unknown to anyone without database access.

Can you please link that post here?

Is the secret hash calculated and chosen fortnightly and in that way hero members become legendary?

Code:

Can you make getting legendary provability fair? So we know if you don't like us that we get it anyway Smiley

Nah, that'd significantly complicate things. Currently this randomness is done with a single SQL query, which is very convenient.

Code:
update smf_members set ID_POST_GROUP=21 where ID_POST_GROUP=8 and
activity>=775 and activity>=775+conv(substr(sha1(concat(ID_MEMBER,
secretSeed)), 1, 2), 16, 10);

The required activity level per user is suitably random for betting, but anyone who can read my code (there are a few such people) will be able to exactly predict when someone will become Legendary, so I don't really recommend it.

Seed is hardcoded or stored in the database (otherwise it could not be read):

Out of curiosity, how would someone who can read your code be able to accurately predict when someone will become legendary without the secret seed?

I meant that the secret seed is in the code, so if you have access to it then you'll be able to calculate the number directly.

It also cant change, because that might result in already legendary members to lose their rank.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 502

Thanks for the NSFW warning.

You're welcome. BTW, is he banned for posting NSFW stuffs? Tongue


A different algorithm compared to what? The algorithm to determine when you will be legendary was posted by theymos. It only relies on the user id and a secret hash that is identical for all users but unknown to anyone without database access.

Can you please link that post here?

Is the secret hash calculated and chosen fortnightly and in that way hero members become legendary?
copper member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1499
No I dont escrow anymore.
Doesn't anybody think this user is farming for activity? --> https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hardcoresuperstar-542808

Thanks for the NSFW warning.

In this case, he might have to wait for a longer duration to become a legendary member.

No.

Theymos must be using a different algorithm for ranking legendary members.

A different algorithm compared to what? The algorithm to determine when you will be legendary was posted by theymos. It only relies on the user id and a secret hash that is identical for all users but unknown to anyone without database access.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 502
Doesn't anybody think this user is farming for activity? --> https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hardcoresuperstar-542808

In this case, he might have to wait for a longer duration to become a legendary member.

Theymos must be using a different algorithm for ranking legendary members.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
I don't bite.
If you believe that you have not been here long enough. Anyone can just buy a legendary account for the right price. There is nothing special about any rank here. Dont get fooled by the shiny coins.
I might have not been here for long enough, but it is noticeable if the account is sold or not.
That is just my opinion, and that opinion only applies to Legendary that have not sell their account.
legendary
Activity: 2324
Merit: 1267
In Memory of Zepher
  • Signature Scoring.
    Becoming a Legendary Member sooner depends on what kind of signatures you are using. I noticed the ones wearing tame signatures or no signature at all, are becoming Legendary Members quite sooner and the ones actively participating in signature campaign, wearing annoying signatures are still a Hero Member with more than 940 activity counts.
So, what happened to marcotheminer getting promoted to Legendary almost as soon as he could? Stop talking out of your arse.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 502

NO! You are very wrong. The only thing that makes someone legendary is their activity. Post quality and the sig does not matter. That would take a long time for people to check, and it doesn't matter. The activity system rewards you for posting. The legendary threshold is random for each person.

LOL! Another spammer detected. Wink

Do you even know what was OP asking about?

And what are you talking of instead? Roll Eyes
hero member
Activity: 1190
Merit: 500
I think, getting promoted to Legendary Member depends on...

  • Post Quality.
    Whether you were spamming on threads with one liners or irrelevant posts to increase your activity count, after joining the forum. Moreover, some members having the intention of selling their accounts, tries to undergo "potential activity farming" which might adversely affect the chances of becoming a Legendary Member sooner.
    (You can check your average post quality here, though this is not an ultimate quality check)

  • Signature Scoring.
    Becoming a Legendary Member sooner depends on what kind of signatures you are using. I noticed the ones wearing tame signatures or no signature at all, are becoming Legendary Members quite sooner and the ones actively participating in signature campaign, wearing annoying signatures are still a Hero Member with more than 940 activity counts.
NO! You are very wrong. The only thing that makes someone legendary is their activity. Post quality and the sig does not matter. That would take a long time for people to check, and it doesn't matter. The activity system rewards you for posting. The legendary threshold is random for each person.
legendary
Activity: 1268
Merit: 1009
I think, getting promoted to Legendary Member depends on...

  • Post Quality.
    Whether you were spamming on threads with one liners or irrelevant posts to increase your activity count, after joining the forum. Moreover, some members having the intention of selling their accounts, tries to undergo "potential activity farming" which might adversely affect the chances of becoming a Legendary Member sooner.
    (You can check your average post quality here, though this is not an ultimate quality check)

  • Signature Scoring.
    Becoming a Legendary Member sooner depends on what kind of signatures you are using. I noticed the ones wearing tame signatures or no signature at all, are becoming Legendary Members quite sooner and the ones actively participating in signature campaign, wearing annoying signatures are still a Hero Member with more than 940 activity counts.
sr. member
Activity: 262
Merit: 250
Dubs Get
I think the admins/mods made this because they don't want the account traders (i.e. people buying and selling accounts for profit) to have a predictable income period (as legendary accounts worth a lot more than hero).

P.S. Is there somewhere to check the exact activity point required for legendary, or not?
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
★Bitvest.io★ Play Plinko or Invest!
I Personally think it would be fun checking each week and hoping to be bumped up!! that is obviously why its random. They dont want it to be super planned that at 800 exactly you get legendary etc.

Most people would probably want to know the exact goal and can understand the frustration of getting to 1k and still a hero.

Ill be happy for sr member lol
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
Go figure! | I'm nearing 1337 posts...
Some members I just saw aren't legendry even after which some are legendry, so its random really.

Ladies and gentlemen... I present you a spammer that doesn't even know what he's talking about.

FYI: the OP was asking why it was random. It's already obvious that it's random.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
Some members I just saw aren't legendry even after which some are legendry, so its random really.
full member
Activity: 121
Merit: 100
How much does a Legendary account go for roughly? very interested to know

Its kind off-topic but the answer is : around 2 BTC
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
How much does a Legendary account go for roughly? very interested to know
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
As the title says, why is the activity required for Legendary random? Why is this rank so special? It's just another rank. And besides the sig campaign pay, I can't find anything different about it than a Hero member rank. It seems pretty weird to me, and can be kind of depressing if you are one of the unlucky ones who gets Legendary at like, 1000 activity xD
You will become Legendary somewhere between 775 and 1030 activity and it is random per user. Refer here

Legendary is special because you will be respected by the community and it is not because you have higher rank than the others, but it is because you have been in the forum for years. That is why the Legendary member is special.

If you believe that you have not been here long enough. Anyone can just buy a legendary account for the right price. There is nothing special about any rank here. Dont get fooled by the shiny coins.

I know people do sell them... I just cant imagine getting rid of my account even if I did not use it much at some point.  The ones selling legendary are crazy considering amount of time put in.

But I think the not knowing makes it kinda fun.  I have not been real lucky there are Legendary under me... but that is how it goes.  I could get it next period or it could be 6 months... and I'm ok with that and enjoy it. 
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
It's just a forum rank, nothing else nothing more, any forum can add it and do it, look I am a Full Member with less activity than OP
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