Topic: Why is the violence in France completely legitimate? - page 3. (Read 884 times)

That's the biggest shit that I've read since... I don't know.

Macron is not a socialist (give me just one single "socialist" law or change he has made)
Socialism is NOT AT ALL similar to communism

That's because Macron is a socialist, which is very similar to being a communist. His views are applauded by Merkel, another socialist, who is doing everything to destroy the lives of people in Germany and the rest of the EU. How stubborn do you have to be to see that your politics is failing and your support is diminishing, but still continue the same route?
Not to mention that macron's wife is a pedophile who molested him since he was 15. If you ever fuck a 15 year old in France and get charged, don't forget to ask for a presidential pardon.

If you look at the history of France, you will see that the government is leading the nation towards Communism. That's enough right there for the people to rebel, so that they don't become like what the USSR used to be.

When I read the topic line I thought that meant "violence by the state".
And my answer immediately was "because it doesn't produce and sell a shitload of oil?"

No - a unicorn is a creation by man. It was a domesticated horse born into slavery, and fitted with an artificial horn. It was then released into the wild, and joined a herd of wild horses. It rapidly became the alpha stallion, and when summoned by its masters, it led the whole herd of free spirited animals into captivity. Politicians like Macron, Obama, Clinton and Theresa May are unicorns. Democracy is the means for people to band together, and free themselves from the slavery that restricts their lives.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-09/graphic-photographers-hand-blown-police-grenade-during-yellow-vest-mayhem

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/28/world/europe/france-yellow-vests-police.html

“Through the Yellow Vests protests, many working or middle-class French, usually calm and mostly white, have discovered that in France, police violence can also target them,” he said. “The police have become the symbol of the government’s refusal to negotiate.”

They don't have to vote for a Gilets Jaunes party. They need to vote Macron and a One-Size-Fits-All EU out.  At stake in 2019 is simply getting reducing, if not eliminating, the Merkel/Macron wing of the EU.

The yellow vests are totally against this list!
The movement is apolitical, so creating a political movement is playing the macron game (and that's what he want).

The only word of order remains: RIC then resignation of macron.

The Gilets Jaunes have decided to make a list for the next European elections.
For now, there are 10 names on that list but many more are yet to be added, the total should be 79.
First surveys have them at 13%, which would place them as the 3rd party in the country.

Try global revolution.

French Revolution II?

I also agree with everything you said.

Except maybe one point, we talk about it every days on the french local board, so you're really welcome to talk with us : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gilets-jaunes-vs-bitcointalk-5086499

Edit : I see you already post in this thread, so I don't get why you say we are all against it... (but I get why you say most frenchs are assholes on bitcointalk, here we can see it again, they don't want anything to change and they claim days after days that everything is alright)

Hey. Yes I am but I never post on French board. Honnêtement on est vraiment pas nombreux et la pluspart de FR à mon époque étaient des trous du culs de l'accabit de TECSHARE.
You clearly haven't participated in one of those protests at the moment it gets violent.

You're not really in the situation of thinking.
The goal is simply to defend yourself from the police. Destroying the shops is here as a mean to do damage to "the other side".

Protests are put in the broad middle of Paris. There is no poor shopowner there, don't believe the TV. You think a baking shop in the Champs-Elysées is a small business led by a poor guy with a loan? Think again. Shops destroyed belong to heavy corporation, even restaurants are all parts of a network.

And anyways, banks are the first target.
Again you clearly don't see how things happen. And you never faced the police or the danger behind. You think doing something legal protects you? Police pins you down and beat the shit out of you without any reason. They don't need a reason.
I've seen students get beaten so hard the lost a few tooth while they were surrendering.

Police are nazis in France simply because they answer to no one. No one can charge them in a trial, no one can do anything. They're all "assermentés" which means that, by law, whatever they say under oath is the truth and the only truth.

That's not the case right now. People have been in the streets during Christmas time, with low temperatures, they're not gonna stop now especially since every action taken by Macron is another insult to them.
Right now, his great new idea is supposed to be a national debate... well it's a joke. There is no debate, only him imposing his ideas (he "talks" with French mayors... they listen).
European elections are coming and he's trying to buy some time. At the end of this debate, he will make a few proposals (he already knows which ones lol)... it will take a few days for people (and the media) to realize they're useless... nothing will have changed.


Seems to be the only way out, some kind of apolitical movement who would interfere with the current government decisions.

The Gilets Jaunes agree on the most important proposals :
-a fairer tax system
-a better control on state expenses
-the RIC (the referendum you probably heard about)
-a higher minimum wage

And probably a few other things but these don't seem undoable right ?

P.S : what's more violent ?
Physical violence ? Like punching someone in the face ?
Psychological violence ? Like making someone unable to provide for his family ?

Hey mOgliE,
I agree with all your statements.
France has this glamorous image for tourists, but it is far from being a paradise for French people.
And the taxes, the layers of paperwork / administration / restriction make it hard to conceive a future.
But no place on earth is perfect either, i was born in France, i lived there 28 years and moved overseas 4 years ago.
I don't regret it, but when i look at the situation in Spain, Greece, Poland, Russia.... I realise that France, while not perfect isn't too bad.

Are you french ?  i haven't seen you posting in the French board ?

Also your quote infers that you are one of the violent protesters
May i suggest that you  do actions and / or destroy infrastructure and goods that pisses off the government and not the public.

Some ideas for you and your friends :
Buy a cheap car on leboncoin, abandon it in from the Elyzee (don't forget to puncture the tyres), burn it if you want (it is yours). Then declare it stolen (it will use police ressources).
Ask a farmer to deliver some cow's poo in front of the city hall.
Go at night and put a lock on the door of the courthouse, the city hall, the tax building, the prefecture, banks ...
Collect dog poo and throw it at the cops.
Collect dog poo and ship / post  it  to the ministers / deputy / senators .
collect dog poo and spread it on the walls of government buildings
Get people to chain themselves to doors.
Make the tolls free at the highway
.....
be imaginative !

Don't loot an Apple store or break a velib 



I will quote the pharmacist as his statement is very good :

Excepting for the fact that there ARE UNICORNS!!!!

https://mentalfloss.com/article/79557/curious-case-ringlings-living-unicorn

A unicorn is a mythical creature... Though I don't agree. Pure Democracy is real, it is called mob rule.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka8XJPr8gec

How much longer do you think people will tolerate this before a full fledged civil war breaks out? FYI, they say he was shot with a "less lethal" munition, which is technically accurate, but from what I understand it was actually a flash bang grenade of some type he was shot directly in the head with. OFC those are not designed to be less lethal with direct impact to the head...

Here is a good graphic showing how right you are:

https://www.monde-diplomatique.fr/cartes/ppa-archive

The entire French media is controlled by a bunch of rich dudes.

No way the TV could be bias of course...