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copper member
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October 25, 2015, 01:15:29 PM
#34
If nothing else he should be removed from any campaign and neg trusted so he cannot join another one. I'm sure that he will stop posting really quickly should that be the case.
He is not a scammer (AFAIK), so negative trust is defiantly not appropriate.

I do agree that he should be removed from the campaign because his posts reflect poorly on the company that he is advertising for.

The managers mostly use a bot to count posts and that is easily tricked. I think the bot only checks the post length to say good or bad.
This is probably a pretty strong argument to not use bots to run your campaign.
newbie
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October 25, 2015, 01:12:25 PM
#33
His technics are very smart. When i see first post of this thread and I check history of this guy i didn't seen any suspicious posts.. But when i read all thread I began to notice the tricks that he uses.

For me is difficult to say if this is spam.. Probably not. But if such person is useful for campaign, should decide its manager.
copper member
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October 25, 2015, 01:10:54 PM
#32
eh, I am not sure if this person should be banned as I would not quite consider his posts to be insubstantial. However I certainly agree that he is only posting to earn money from his signature campaign which reflects poorly on both the company he is representing (via his signature), and on the campaign manger itself.

I would not want him in a campaign that I was running personally.


A lot of users are posting here only to earn money from the various signature campaign.
Yup, and I would not want any of them (at least not the majority of them) to be in a campaign that I am running. The person in the OP isn't making nonsense posts, but it is evident that he is not really interested in the threads he is posting in.


So he can't be banned (based on your opinion). The problem is that you are not a staff member so you can't decide, however I have reported a post wrote by him.
I am saying that based on the current forum rules he probably will not be banned. It is not a requirement to be a staff member to known and be able to interpret the forum rules as they are all public as is the vast majority of the decisions and clarifications regarding the rules. Also staff members are not able to ban people, only global moderators and admins can, however for something like this it would be most likely that only admins should be banning this person (if applicable) because what he is doing most likely does not warrant a permanent ban, and only admins can hand out temp bans

Yes of course, but also an admin or global mod is a 'staff member'. I think the signature campaign should be 'managed' in some way, otherwise the forum will become really bad (due this type of users).
This is being discussed in the staff section and the mods are trying to figure out a way to deal with the signature campaigns. The general consensus is that the forum does not want signature campaigns to go away completely, however that is a possibility if the forum cannot get otherwise cleaned up. One option being considered is to allow signatures to be hidden on a per-user basis and if enough of a similar signature were to get hidden then all similar signatures would get hidden by default.

I would say that for the most part the worst signature spammers have been taken care of, and the overall browsing experience has improved from ~15 months ago, and even from ~5 months ago.
legendary
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In Memory of Zepher
October 25, 2015, 12:45:01 PM
#31
Read some of his posts once again, he is clearly not a native english speaker.
Yes, he is definitely not native. I was more talking about your point where you said that you 'would definitely not consider his posts understood to most people', though I appear to have misunderstood. How ironic.
Edit: And as I have said before, he , most of the times posts understandable posts which may be considered constructive but solely for payment.

Another point he doesn't ask the same question again and again, at least I didn't find so when going through his posts , maybe he just posts repetitive questions over a long range of posts so that they are not visible when going through his recent posts.
Look on the majority of his posts on domain threads. He will be asking something along the lines of 'what makes this valuable?'. You would probably have to go through his posts a lot, but I have definitely seen him do it on multiple occasions.

basically on the level of a bot which copy and pastes phrases and matches them up, but it seems here that it's just a human typing vaguely related stuff at speed to earn money.
Sort of. He is a human that can type vaguely related information to a thread, but also copy-pastes a good portion of the body of some of his posts from either previous posts or external websites.

Examples:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12767280 (Copied from a domain price estimator)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1057355 (Copied from SebasianJu's post on the previous page)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12779522 (Copying text which he has already quoted once to boost his character count)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12776041 (Copied the first line of text in the topic for no reason, as the context of the post was obvious without)

I'm not going to go into any more detail with it. His copy-pasting could just be a result of not knowing when to quote, but doing both as he did in example 3 isn't acceptable.

Why are bots allowed period? If you're hired for a job as a manager shouldn't you do the job manually? Seems pretty lazy IMO for botting to be allowed
Due to the sheer amount of participants in that campaign and the amount of posts created by some of the members of the signature campaign it would probably take weeks to count the amount of posts made over one period and check if they are all high quality.
legendary
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#Free market
October 25, 2015, 12:35:36 PM
#30
But as QS has mentioned , I would definitely not consider his posts understood to most people. It seems his primary language isn't english.
As a native English speaker, I can understand him perfectly. It's obvious that he knows what he is doing and has no intention to stop.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12780658
Read some of his posts once again, he is clearly not a native english speaker.  Another point he doesn't ask the same question again and again, at least I didn't find so when going through his posts , maybe he just posts repetitive questions over a long range of posts so that they are not visible when going through his recent posts.


Repetitive = spam


or am I wrong?

Eh, kind of. Repetitive would be the same thing over and over again. Spam encompasses both repetitiveness, uselessness, etc. His posts are definitely spam, though, basically on the level of a bot which copy and pastes phrases and matches them up, but it seems here that it's just a human typing vaguely related stuff at speed to earn money.

It was a rhetoric question . However it is obvious he is posting only to earn money, this is clear.
legendary
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Contact @yahoo62278 on telegram for marketing
October 25, 2015, 12:35:28 PM
#29
Why are bots allowed period? If you're hired for a job as a manager shouldn't you do the job manually? Seems pretty lazy IMO for botting to be allowed
legendary
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October 25, 2015, 12:31:59 PM
#28
But as QS has mentioned , I would definitely not consider his posts understood to most people. It seems his primary language isn't english.
As a native English speaker, I can understand him perfectly. It's obvious that he knows what he is doing and has no intention to stop.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12780658
Read some of his posts once again, he is clearly not a native english speaker.  Another point he doesn't ask the same question again and again, at least I didn't find so when going through his posts , maybe he just posts repetitive questions over a long range of posts so that they are not visible when going through his recent posts.


Repetitive = spam


or am I wrong?

Eh, kind of. Repetitive would be the same thing over and over again. Spam encompasses both repetitiveness, uselessness, etc. His posts are definitely spam, though, basically on the level of a bot which copy and pastes phrases and matches them up, but it seems here that it's just a human typing vaguely related stuff at speed to earn money.
legendary
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#Free market
October 25, 2015, 12:27:58 PM
#27
But as QS has mentioned , I would definitely not consider his posts understood to most people. It seems his primary language isn't english.
As a native English speaker, I can understand him perfectly. It's obvious that he knows what he is doing and has no intention to stop.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12780658
Read some of his posts once again, he is clearly not a native english speaker.  Another point he doesn't ask the same question again and again, at least I didn't find so when going through his posts , maybe he just posts repetitive questions over a long range of posts so that they are not visible when going through his recent posts.


Repetitive = spam


or am I wrong?
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October 25, 2015, 12:26:16 PM
#26
But as QS has mentioned , I would definitely not consider his posts understood to most people. It seems his primary language isn't english.
As a native English speaker, I can understand him perfectly. It's obvious that he knows what he is doing and has no intention to stop.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12780658
Read some of his posts once again, he is clearly not a native english speaker.  Another point he doesn't ask the same question again and again, at least I didn't find so when going through his posts , maybe he just posts repetitive questions over a long range of posts so that they are not visible when going through his recent posts.
Edit: And as I have said before, he , most of the times posts understandable posts which may be considered constructive but solely for payment.
P.S: Marco is tightening his rein over the campaign, I expect some participants to be kicked in the next few pay periods.
Edit 2:


Repetitive = spam


or am I wrong?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/isnt-repeated-posts-considered-spamming-1218213 long discussion here, and personally, if its not exactly the same phrase/sentence/word I don't consider it spamming(except in cases of rewrited posts).
legendary
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In Memory of Zepher
October 25, 2015, 12:19:56 PM
#25
I've seen this user quite a lot. He mainly just hangs around the marketplace section and asks the same vague questions, sometimes even just copying the thread title into his post to meet the character quota. People have been neg trusted for adding gibberish to the ends of their posts, I would say that copying the thread title is just as bad.

If nothing else he should be removed from any campaign and neg trusted so he cannot join another one. I'm sure that he will stop posting really quickly should that be the case.

But as QS has mentioned , I would definitely not consider his posts understood to most people. It seems his primary language isn't english.
As a native English speaker, I can understand him perfectly. It's obvious that he knows what he is doing and has no intention to stop.
hero member
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October 25, 2015, 12:16:59 PM
#24
hmmm... seriously dont know why users post off topic posts so often.....


I think its time to make some changes in signature rules.... Dont you think??  Huh
I wouldn't consider someone who posts at least one "......" in his posts just to make it closer to 75 character count, a reliable source of information : https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/starofbtc-554913 .*
Another thing, Bit-x is a huge campaign and probably the one spending a lot on promotion , hence it uses a bot and there are always ways of  getting over a bot's limits as bots can't calculate a post's quality.
@monbux, although I wouldn't consider melisande a reliable source of information at least he isn't repetitive and/or spamming. But as QS has mentioned , I would definitely not consider his posts understood to most people. It seems his primary language isn't english.  
*You also are alt of psonowal who are just farming your sig.

Sorry i post too many "....." i got it from chatting 24/7 whatsapp and other social apps.
I cant go on deleting that "....." in all my 89 posts.

But i PROMISE no to make it happen again.

If you think like i am making the post count characters more,AM SORRY my intention was never to do that.  Smiley

SORRY to anyone who feels my posts annoying filled up with "....."  Smiley
legendary
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October 25, 2015, 12:16:02 PM
#23
48 posts in 1 day, I bet that guy will not reach that number if his post's are not paid. This is what you get when one of your rules is "No minimum posts, no maximum posts, no worries! Do not spam.", He definitely missed the last 3 words

Indeed. Though I've made over 40 posts today, and I hope most people consider me to be a decently constructive poster...

Hope. It's a shame that there are people like these who make everyone who posts a lot and has a signature ad seem bad. Though I normally post in bursts. Wink
hero member
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October 25, 2015, 12:13:56 PM
#22
The managers mostly use a bot to count posts and that is easily tricked. I think the bot only checks the post length to say good or bad.

As i know the bot counts the charathers only if the post reach to 75 or not the content of it those should be done from the op that leads the signature,at coinut our op always check and count all post manual,and those out of content are taken out by total.
legendary
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October 25, 2015, 12:07:31 PM
#21
The managers mostly use a bot to count posts and that is easily tricked. I think the bot only checks the post length to say good or bad.
hero member
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October 25, 2015, 12:05:26 PM
#20
People will always try to maximize their post and well its easy to make 50 posts daily just need some dedication and found some active topics,last week someone had around 6 accounts doing similiar posts like i like bananas,bananas i like ,banana are delicious,these kind the op that runs the signature should alwayss confirm and check the post otherwise just receive and pay others as escrow will lead into a spam bomb.
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October 25, 2015, 12:02:25 PM
#19
Posting only to be paid is allowed here so nothing will be done. Amph writes useless nonsense like that and has never been banned for it (he even publicly stated he only posts for the pay). Just give up on making these threads as the forum allows this activity. I think the only ones who get banned are the really obvious 1-5 word posters.

True , the best answer to these type of threads. And most people who do complain about these things, even monbux are doing so with a signature themselves. If you have any problem about these posts , report them with a valid comment and it should be fine or report them to the campaign manager, monbux being a reputable member should make the campaign managers take this seriously.
legendary
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October 25, 2015, 12:00:53 PM
#18
48 posts in 1 day, I bet that guy will not reach that number if his post's are not paid. This is what you get when one of your rules is "No minimum posts, no maximum posts, no worries! Do not spam.", He definitely missed the last 3 words
Definitely...

Anyway This topic will lead to endless discussion and this guy won't be banned from btctalk..
All what you need to do OP is to quote some of his spammy posts and send it to the admin of the compagn or report every spam to the mods here...

lock this topic if you get a response from a mod or the admin of bit-x
legendary
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October 25, 2015, 11:59:41 AM
#17
Posting only to be paid is allowed here so nothing will be done. Amph writes useless nonsense like that and has never been banned for it (he even publicly stated he only posts for the pay). Just give up on making these threads as the forum allows this activity. I think the only ones who get banned are the really obvious 1-5 word posters.
legendary
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October 25, 2015, 11:51:54 AM
#16
48 posts in 1 day, I bet that guy will not reach that number if his post's are not paid. This is what you get when one of your rules is "No minimum posts, no maximum posts, no worries! Do not spam.", He definitely missed the last 3 words
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October 25, 2015, 11:47:29 AM
#15
hmmm... seriously dont know why users post off topic posts so often.....


I think its time to make some changes in signature rules.... Dont you think??  Huh
I wouldn't consider someone who posts at least one "......" in his posts just to make it closer to 75 character count, a reliable source of information : https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/starofbtc-554913 .*
Another thing, Bit-x is a huge campaign and probably the one spending a lot on promotion , hence it uses a bot and there are always ways of  getting over a bot's limits as bots can't calculate a post's quality.
@monbux, although I wouldn't consider melisande a reliable source of information at least he isn't repetitive and/or spamming. But as QS has mentioned , I would definitely not consider his posts understood to most people. It seems his primary language isn't english.  
*You also are alt of psonowal who are just farming your sig.
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