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hero member
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July 23, 2017, 10:21:48 AM
#63
Because most of the ICO just came here to collect money nothing else and people here are to much greedy and have lack of knowledge so because of that people invest money into their scam and the ICO take the money and gone. That is why I always recommend to everyone that if you really want to invest in any ICO first research about them that do they really have good development team, do they have future plan, do they have proper road map and all the required important thing and if you really think and are confident that this ICO will really work then only invest in that no need to invest without research because most of the time you will loose money like that.

yes you are right this ICO thing has been the target scheme of this scammers so sad so us that rely our income on bitcoins should be wise on our judging in supporting this ICOS
some get scammed bcoz of being too greedy that it overlooks their judgement
so guys lets be more realistic in our judgement with this ICO projects to lessen the risk of being scam
hero member
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July 23, 2017, 08:34:00 AM
#62
It's the temptation, when an ICO already collected a lot of investors fund from their project they are tempted to run the funds. Because it's an easy money already and they can just reproduce and recreate a project that can easily rebrand it, change their names and they will just come back. This is what I've seen base on my observation.
hero member
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July 23, 2017, 07:50:09 AM
#61
Most of the ICO are scams because the developer just want a quick money and like to lure people with unrealistic project and sweet promise, and I like how OP teach us how to spot a good and bad ICO, ICO supposed to be giving us a better coin to invest, but most of the developer scammed the people and giving ICO a bad reputation
sr. member
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July 23, 2017, 05:31:20 AM
#60
Its very easy money to make an ICO, all you need is a nice concept whether its realistic or not and a bit of work designing it to make it look professional. Then after a successful funding there is no accountability as to how the funds are used, you can pay yourself high fees and call it development money and deliver some vaporware to appease the masses or just disappear.

Easy to get funded, no accountability, no recourse even if you declare it a scam.

That nice concept is something that is hard to do and eventually when its possible, its only for the gullible ones to put their money without understanding the basis of what they are putting it. Not all ICOs are bad and not all of them are successful but the issue of concern is how they all flood the forum with those who no serious agenda creating a vendetta for those who are serious about raising funds for a viable project.
legendary
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July 22, 2017, 11:27:29 PM
#59
Coz most of the people investing on ICOs neverunderstand what they are doing. Most of them are baited into big profit scheme which is if you really think of it, it's not really true. Most of them are in rush to be rich so there they are end up bankcrupt blaming the ICOs there scame yes thats given but there are lots of promising ICOs there you just have to choose wisely.
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July 21, 2017, 06:30:40 PM
#58
Its very easy money to make an ICO, all you need is a nice concept whether its realistic or not and a bit of work designing it to make it look professional. Then after a successful funding there is no accountability as to how the funds are used, you can pay yourself high fees and call it development money and deliver some vaporware to appease the masses or just disappear.

Easy to get funded, no accountability, no recourse even if you declare it a scam.
sr. member
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July 21, 2017, 06:28:25 PM
#57
Do you know that most of the ICO's are scam .

Well if you don't here are some reasons behind it :-

1.) Most of these ICO's have no business model  Angry
2.) Most of these ICO's would never be profitable  Sad
3.) High Market cap for a project / ICO with no development , code or any past experiences  Tongue
4.) Most of them have a 1 year roadmap which means no vision  Huh
5.) 5 months of hard work and for that they get Millions in funding  Undecided
6.) Dumb people running the shitshow  Grin
7.) Behind the scenes it is all about Money


What makes an ICO legit ?
1.) Working product
2.) Practical Use case
3.) Legit Team
4.) Limited Funding ( Based upon Fair Market valuation )


Why are these days ICO raising so much money ?  Shocked
Answer :- People are dumb and greedy they want to invest in the next ETH , STRATIS , WINGS , EDG , IOTA , XEL but they do not understand that Stratis had less than 1000 contributors and most of these ICO's happened during bear season when most of the people were not active in the scene .

Should I invest in ICO's ?  Huh
Yes , some ICO's are legit and can be good investments such as MobileGo , Edgeless ,  Civic etc which can yield you good ROI in long term but then always due diligence is important .

Should I invest in ICO's with high marketcap ?  Roll Eyes
No , High marketcap means a lot of people have invested in an ICO seeking for quick buck or the ICO team has been dependent on marketing to get more investors which makes a lot of weak hands so when the marketcap is not able to sustain the demand and supply the price will likely go down . When the price goes down is the time to invest but not during the ICO .

I fomo like a noob during ICO as I don't want to miss it .  Cry
Well then you are a fuking sheep who want to buy in today and be a millionaire tomorrow well it does not work that way , you can always buy after it hits the exchange . Always have a good risk management system in place where you are able to manage your risk/reward ratio according to your portfolio .  

Always :- Ask tough questions to the team and you will know the reality  

Best Regards ,
VerthagOG

Everyone is trying to take advantage of the momentum right now. My strategy is the same for all investments whether cryptocurrency, stocks, and startups.

First and foremost:
  • Team
  • Traction
  • Idea / Concept

Team
First and foremost, I invest in people. The questions I ask are:
  • Are these individuals I can trust and share the same values with?
  • What experience does the team have in this space?

Traction
Traction enables me to understand someone's passion, hustle, and results over a period of time. The question I ask here is:
  • What traction has the team achieved over the past quarter, six months, etc?

Idea / Concept
It's never about the idea. It's always about the execution. Hence why this ranks lower than traction. The questions I ask are:
  • What problem does this solve?
  • Is this an idea that I'm passionate about and care offer value to?
  • Is the idea / concept aligned with my values?

The answers to all of these questions give me a good sense on whether or not I should invest.  While it is still possible to make money from momentum investing, I recommend everyone employing due diligence and ask the same questions above prior to making an investment.


Yeah i guess it is just the starting point of that coins when they are trying to get or funding there projcect that the investor could easily be get scam i guess that big amount of money make the dev to scam the funds of the coin and ran away they could easily do that.
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July 21, 2017, 06:24:23 PM
#56
Well... I have to agree, many icos are scams... Coindash, golem e.t.c But there are still some gems like Veritaseum, Monkey Capital Hedge fund. They have awesome CEO's that are very active and answer all the questions regarding their project.
sr. member
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July 21, 2017, 06:11:40 PM
#55
The problem is not only the lack of a working product at the beginning of crowdfunding, maybe the biggest problem is unrealistic plans, things that, if done, would take years to be ready for real world use.
full member
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July 21, 2017, 05:54:37 PM
#54
ICO's are dangerous becasue they turned into a way to exploit other's capital. Here, others indicating contributors. Invest only in trusted projects.
hero member
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July 21, 2017, 05:50:52 PM
#53
do you know why !!! Because many experience programmers found it easy to create ICO with a nice graphic and logos using ETH or WAVE blockchain so no hard-work required to crate a project like before with owned blockchain.
Yes thats right. But if we only keep to be wise and good enough to find an ico that is good well it is an advantage for us. So be wise so that we cannot be fooled easily.
hero member
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July 21, 2017, 05:47:58 PM
#52
because it is easy money. where there is easy money there will be scammers.
Agree, easy money no projects, just make coin, list in exchanger and earn million US in a or two months. That's crazy.  I think there will be legit project in the future. Stay away from dump and pump ICOs from greedy fake developers. They know nothing about coding but act like professionals cryptocurrency coders. 1 or 2 years roadmap to make pay per click adnetwork website? That stupid developers with million dollars .
sr. member
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July 21, 2017, 03:40:27 PM
#51
It is easy now for people to pull the money out of their pockets.
Many Ico were great. And now many think it will also be good. And the deceivers know that. In addition, the greed for money comes with the people. This turns off the brain.
And the scammers know that. And nothing will happen to them because no one knows where they are in reality

It's a quick way to earn money with a few people and a laptop and some good photos. And the world is so stupid and believes everything without knowing the people
And afterwards they all mess around like many ICO like SONM, Polybius and many more. And many will follow because there are still many stupid people
member
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giants may cry too
July 21, 2017, 03:26:59 PM
#50
Do you know that most of the ICO's are scam .

Well if you don't here are some reasons behind it :-

1.) Most of these ICO's have no business model  Angry
2.) Most of these ICO's would never be profitable  Sad
3.) High Market cap for a project / ICO with no development , code or any past experiences  Tongue
4.) Most of them have a 1 year roadmap which means no vision  Huh
5.) 5 months of hard work and for that they get Millions in funding  Undecided
6.) Dumb people running the shitshow  Grin
7.) Behind the scenes it is all about Money


What makes an ICO legit ?
1.) Working product
2.) Practical Use case
3.) Legit Team
4.) Limited Funding ( Based upon Fair Market valuation )


Why are these days ICO raising so much money ?  Shocked
Answer :- People are dumb and greedy they want to invest in the next ETH , STRATIS , WINGS , EDG , IOTA , XEL but they do not understand that Stratis had less than 1000 contributors and most of these ICO's happened during bear season when most of the people were not active in the scene .

Should I invest in ICO's ?  Huh
Yes , some ICO's are legit and can be good investments such as MobileGo , Edgeless ,  Civic etc which can yield you good ROI in long term but then always due diligence is important .

Should I invest in ICO's with high marketcap ?  Roll Eyes
No , High marketcap means a lot of people have invested in an ICO seeking for quick buck or the ICO team has been dependent on marketing to get more investors which makes a lot of weak hands so when the marketcap is not able to sustain the demand and supply the price will likely go down . When the price goes down is the time to invest but not during the ICO .

I fomo like a noob during ICO as I don't want to miss it .  Cry
Well then you are a fuking sheep who want to buy in today and be a millionaire tomorrow well it does not work that way , you can always buy after it hits the exchange . Always have a good risk management system in place where you are able to manage your risk/reward ratio according to your portfolio .  

Always :- Ask tough questions to the team and you will know the reality  

Best Regards ,
VerthagOG

Everyone is trying to take advantage of the momentum right now. My strategy is the same for all investments whether cryptocurrency, stocks, and startups.

First and foremost:
  • Team
  • Traction
  • Idea / Concept

Team
First and foremost, I invest in people. The questions I ask are:
  • Are these individuals I can trust and share the same values with?
  • What experience does the team have in this space?

Traction
Traction enables me to understand someone's passion, hustle, and results over a period of time. The question I ask here is:
  • What traction has the team achieved over the past quarter, six months, etc?

Idea / Concept
It's never about the idea. It's always about the execution. Hence why this ranks lower than traction. The questions I ask are:
  • What problem does this solve?
  • Is this an idea that I'm passionate about and care offer value to?
  • Is the idea / concept aligned with my values?

The answers to all of these questions give me a good sense on whether or not I should invest.  While it is still possible to make money from momentum investing, I recommend everyone employing due diligence and ask the same questions above prior to making an investment.



Thank you for your post ,it's really helpful in understanding the market.
But don't you contradict yourself saying that you should invest in good projects like $MGO (5th biggest ico I think) and then saying don't invest in inflated cap ico's ?
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July 21, 2017, 02:48:01 PM
#49
Because people are all over the idea of becoming millionaires from their cents in very short time, and ICOs show them they magical thing just one step away and hence... they don't think enough from their brains and get conned.
That’s usually how it is with fast money. I won’t invest in an ICO unless there was a point to it. If I really wanted to use the project and what it offers has something that I want in the near future then I would try to help the coin out. That is the only time I would join an ICO, if I really wanted to get rich then I would have to make a bunch of money then join every one of the top 100 coins and wait a few years.
sr. member
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July 20, 2017, 03:03:14 PM
#48
Most icos are not scams. I disagree with you strongly here. If you know the team, project and road map, it will never turn into a scam. It will only take some time to make a working product, as expected.
sr. member
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''Vincit qui se vincit''
July 20, 2017, 01:53:35 PM
#47
Most of the investor knows how to play the game. They play the ICOs like a trading platform. Investing huge money and will cashout in the beginning of exchange with their 20% to 40% profits, leaving the newbies hold their coins forever. All activity in the forum are risky not just ICOs. We have to be smarter than the scammers.
sr. member
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July 20, 2017, 01:49:18 PM
#46
Bitcointalk is the right place to look behind ICO projects to see, which backgrounds and innovations are served with the new currencies. Also to look, how big the community already is and to see, if their are only anonyms or real persons.
full member
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July 20, 2017, 01:46:05 PM
#45
A fool and his money are easily parted. I don't blame the scammy ICO's, I blame the public that buy into these scams. Any reasonable investor worth his salt would do a thorough background check, before giving their money to total strangers on the internet. Some of these ICO's have nothing to tangible to show, their management teams non - existent but yet people give them money because some stranger on the bitcointalk says it is okay to.
sr. member
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Just follow the rules
July 20, 2017, 01:41:21 PM
#44
actually ICO's was crowd funding. It is upto you if you will invest or not but they are showcasing their project and ideas to the people and conductiong ICO was their main fund for the projejct or ideas they want. It is up to the investors if they will support the project or just get invole on the crowdsale to get some bonuses and just sell it after the ICO.
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