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Quote from: Totalreturnfund on July 21, 2016, 04:59:08 AM

I read some signature campaign about BTC mixer. I never try, but seems this is a good opportunuty for privacy. I would understand more about this kind of service and how BTC mixer are safe. Any Mixer user could explai me his experience and his suggestion?

I try it before and i dont know what is the use of bitmixer.. My friend advice that use bitmixer so that your bitcoin is not traceable. But after that i dont know what is the main reason why i need to uae bitmixer.

If you read this thread thoroughly, then you will get some better picture on the use of bitmixer. If you don't want anyone to trace your identity after you sell your coins or buy something, then you can use these mixtures. It is good to use if you're mining your won coins.

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Quote from: Totalreturnfund on July 21, 2016, 04:59:08 AM

I read some signature campaign about BTC mixer. I never try, but seems this is a good opportunuty for privacy. I would understand more about this kind of service and how BTC mixer are safe. Any Mixer user could explai me his experience and his suggestion?

I try it before and i dont know what is the use of bitmixer.. My friend advice that use bitmixer so that your bitcoin is not traceable. But after that i dont know what is the main reason why i need to uae bitmixer.

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You would not know that the bitcoins you have received, were gained from some illegal actions, so you use this service to tumble it a bit, and to clean it for your use. In the end, you will need to justify your actions and if it was not for criminal intent, you would be fine.

I mix my coins, because I want stronger anonymity for my savings. Why would you want everyone to simply follow your money to your primary cold storage and make that the target for hackers? See mixers as a extra level of protection. ^smile^

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Quote from: talkbitcoin on July 21, 2016, 06:45:03 AM

i will redirect you to this article on bitmixer.io :
Why should I mix my coins?

it is not all about scamming people or wanting to hide your illegal activity. if i am not mistaken it was BurtW who got arrested and was forced to pay a lot of legal fees to prove he is not a criminal just because he used bitcoin

edit: there you go

So in essence remains the same, right? after I read the explanation of Bitmixer.io if we use their services, we still have to provide the original address for the purpose of sending the goods?

And I have already explained above that you feel you could be interrupted if the transaction being traced or your bitcoin balance in the view of many people, I suggest using any addreas only for one time use. I think with this we do not necessarily have to mix our bitcoin. We know when bitmixer.io being used by a corrupt person who was washing his money, then our bitcoin will also be mixed with the illicit money, right?

I actually know less about the case because of the language used by the authorities is very confusing. But broadly I think BURTON WAGNER arrested for violating laws that apply in the US. Although we know bitcoin decentralized but when we conduct bitcoin transactions in violation of applicable laws I think it's wrong. In other words if your country prohibits using bitcoin and there is legislation in force, then we should avoid using bitcoin. Thank you,

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Quote from: Totalreturnfund on July 21, 2016, 07:47:59 AM

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Quote from: Totalreturnfund on July 21, 2016, 07:32:38 AM

But should we say that BTC without mixer aren't anonymous?

no.
bitcoin anonymity has nothing to do with mixers.
you can be totally anonymous as long as the bitcoins in your address is not linked to you personally.

for example you can buy bitcoin with cash and receive it in your bitcoin address, that way nobody can know this address is for "you"

But you could trace BTC at everytime on blockchain and it's really difficult to buy large amount of BTC per cash in a lot of country

you can trace the bitcoin, but you wont know who owns that wallet. in the end, it still have some anonymity.

Once you find the wallet of the Bitcoin though it's just an issue of lack of information and stalking could eventually provide that. Everyone feels paranoia, for some paying the mixing fee is necessary to keep their lives private so that's what they do. At least that's why I can see people mixing their coins.

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Quote from: Totalreturnfund on July 21, 2016, 05:44:50 AM

Thanks for reply, but how safe are Mixer? Is there any involved risk ? Huh

But I never looking a problem from someone is using the mixing service. but the risk is always there in every place. but just using a trusted mixer. but for me mixing is safe. maybe just having a lower risk. but i always using the mixer to secure my BTC.

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Quote from: Totalreturnfund on July 21, 2016, 04:59:08 AM

I read some signature campaign about BTC mixer. I never try, but seems this is a good opportunuty for privacy. I would understand more about this kind of service and how BTC mixer are safe. Any Mixer user could explai me his experience and his suggestion?

The function of the mixer it's to mixing or hiding your bitcoin address and someone can't tracking your bitcoin address, and more to privacy. I sure a lot of whales is using this to secure they address or money. and sometimes I using mixing service to secure my bitcoin address.

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After reading all replies i came to one conclusion that to hide the transaction details of the bitcoins address they use mixer, but still their is one question? that is when bitcoin is a anonymous transaction which cannot find the real user and cannot know who the owner is every thing is hided in the transaction as when creating the wallet we are not giving our address or any type of identity.

My question is when the bitcoins transaction itself is not traceable then what is the use of mixer, just to others should not know about your address transaction you are using mixer paying so much high fees , i dont see any type of logic in this. Only the person who are really involved in illegal activities like hacking others wallet and stealing coins or buying illegal products only dont wanted their address should be tracked other than this no other normal user will want to use mixer by paying high fees uselessly.

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Quote from: Totalreturnfund on July 21, 2016, 07:47:59 AM

Quote from: Coding Enthusiast on July 21, 2016, 07:45:41 AM

Quote from: Totalreturnfund on July 21, 2016, 07:32:38 AM

But should we say that BTC without mixer aren't anonymous?

no.
bitcoin anonymity has nothing to do with mixers.
you can be totally anonymous as long as the bitcoins in your address is not linked to you personally.

for example you can buy bitcoin with cash and receive it in your bitcoin address, that way nobody can know this address is for "you"

But you could trace BTC at everytime on blockchain and it's really difficult to buy large amount of BTC per cash in a lot of country

yeah it can be traced and yeah it is hard to buy large amount of bitcoin with cash, but my point is something else.

take this scenario as an example for 100% anonymity.
you meet someone face to face and pay him cash and he sends BTC to your address lets call it address1 and you use that BTC to pay for a service to address2, lets say you buy a VPN with your BTC now anybody who is tracing the transactions sees bitcoin coming in address1 from some source and goes out to address2 the only thing he can get out of his trace is (with a low chance) the owner of address2 and sees the funds were spent to buy a VPN.
and in all this your identity was never revealed.

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Quote from: Totalreturnfund on July 21, 2016, 07:47:59 AM

Quote from: Coding Enthusiast on July 21, 2016, 07:45:41 AM

Quote from: Totalreturnfund on July 21, 2016, 07:32:38 AM

But should we say that BTC without mixer aren't anonymous?

no.
bitcoin anonymity has nothing to do with mixers.
you can be totally anonymous as long as the bitcoins in your address is not linked to you personally.

for example you can buy bitcoin with cash and receive it in your bitcoin address, that way nobody can know this address is for "you"

But you could trace BTC at everytime on blockchain and it's really difficult to buy large amount of BTC per cash in a lot of country

you can trace the bitcoin, but you wont know who owns that wallet. in the end, it still have some anonymity.

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Quote from: Totalreturnfund on July 21, 2016, 07:47:59 AM

Quote from: Coding Enthusiast on July 21, 2016, 07:45:41 AM

Quote from: Totalreturnfund on July 21, 2016, 07:32:38 AM

But should we say that BTC without mixer aren't anonymous?

no.
bitcoin anonymity has nothing to do with mixers.
you can be totally anonymous as long as the bitcoins in your address is not linked to you personally.

for example you can buy bitcoin with cash and receive it in your bitcoin address, that way nobody can know this address is for "you"

But you could trace BTC at everytime on blockchain and it's really difficult to buy large amount of BTC per cash in a lot of country

Usually it's illegal to buy large amounts of bitcoin with cash.

A bitcoin address is anonymous the same way an email address is anonymous, the moment you tell someone the address is yours it is no longer anonymous.

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Quote from: Coding Enthusiast on July 21, 2016, 07:45:41 AM

Quote from: Totalreturnfund on July 21, 2016, 07:32:38 AM

But should we say that BTC without mixer aren't anonymous?

no.
bitcoin anonymity has nothing to do with mixers.
you can be totally anonymous as long as the bitcoins in your address is not linked to you personally.

for example you can buy bitcoin with cash and receive it in your bitcoin address, that way nobody can know this address is for "you"

It has lots to do with mixers. Good mixers ensures that the funds are not spendlinked to an address in question. If it is spendlinked, one can potentially link all the transaction together. At some point, you may somehow reveal your identity by sending the coin to a site that requires ID verification. If you don't mix your coin, you can consider it as at most pseudonymous.

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Quote from: Totalreturnfund on July 21, 2016, 04:59:08 AM

I read some signature campaign about BTC mixer. I never try, but seems this is a good opportunuty for privacy. I would understand more about this kind of service and how BTC mixer are safe. Any Mixer user could explai me his experience and his suggestion?

well mixers are usually used in order for other people not to be able to trace back the addresses of the cryptocurrencies owners and it gives some good anonymity

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Quote from: Coding Enthusiast on July 21, 2016, 07:45:41 AM

Quote from: Totalreturnfund on July 21, 2016, 07:32:38 AM

But should we say that BTC without mixer aren't anonymous?

no.
bitcoin anonymity has nothing to do with mixers.
you can be totally anonymous as long as the bitcoins in your address is not linked to you personally.

for example you can buy bitcoin with cash and receive it in your bitcoin address, that way nobody can know this address is for "you"

But you could trace BTC at everytime on blockchain and it's really difficult to buy large amount of BTC per cash in a lot of country

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Quote from: Totalreturnfund on July 21, 2016, 07:32:38 AM

But should we say that BTC without mixer aren't anonymous?

no.
bitcoin anonymity has nothing to do with mixers.
you can be totally anonymous as long as the bitcoins in your address is not linked to you personally.

for example you can buy bitcoin with cash and receive it in your bitcoin address, that way nobody can know this address is for "you"

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Hallo world!

Good replies, thank to all.

So, mixer help peolpe to protect their identity. But should we say that BTC without mixer aren't anonymous?

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Bitcoin mixers are like a VPN for your coins if I could use this comparison. Mixers can be used to obfuscate the identity of the original owner of the coins for illegal or legal purposes. There are people interested in doing shady deals online but there are also overzealous privacy buffs who just do that because they want to be 'extra' sure. In a nutshell users of mixing services don't want to be followed and don't want the origin of their coins to be traced back.

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i mix my coins due to the fact that i don't want to leave any details behind which the government or other people can use to link me as person to my coins. it's that simple.

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Quote from: Totalreturnfund on July 21, 2016, 04:59:08 AM

I read some signature campaign about BTC mixer. I never try, but seems this is a good opportunuty for privacy. I would understand more about this kind of service and how BTC mixer are safe. Any Mixer user could explai me his experience and his suggestion?

If you are not doing something illegal and you have little Bitcoins you do not need to worry about mixing on a mixer.

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Quote from: Strongkored on July 21, 2016, 06:20:34 AM

Quote from: pedrog on July 21, 2016, 05:02:43 AM

Quote from: Totalreturnfund on July 21, 2016, 04:59:08 AM

I read some signature campaign about BTC mixer. I never try, but seems this is a good opportunuty for privacy. I would understand more about this kind of service and how BTC mixer are safe. Any Mixer user could explai me his experience and his suggestion?

When you steal coins or you want to buy some illegal stuff on the darknets you need to mix your coins.

Yeah i agree with you, because I think if we get a bitcoin legally why bother paying more for bitcoin mixer. And plus if the reason is a transaction that is anonymous, I think just by using one address for one transaction only your identity will be safe and your privacy will remain intact

i will redirect you to this article on bitmixer.io :
Why should I mix my coins?

it is not all about scamming people or wanting to hide your illegal activity. if i am not mistaken it was BurtW who got arrested and was forced to pay a lot of legal fees to prove he is not a criminal just because he used bitcoin

edit: there you go

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