Topic: Why newbies involves in copying already treated topic (Read 621 times)

If anyone posts a very good post in the mega spam thread, those won't be read by many members and hence they will not get the required merits. Also mega spam thread are populated by the signature campaigns participants , most of them normally focus more on writing post, then reading them.
If you posted something which is already been posted a 100 times, even in a good quality, don't expect much merit for such post.

It is not laziness for sure instead it is to achieve a certain amountnof post needed when they join signature bounty campaign where they need to post a required number of post per week to get a  stake. Most of this kind of signature bounty campaign has no strict rules with the bounty manager even when it meas copy of pasting from the other users or posting irrelevant replies for not reading the content of the topic itself. This is why most of the bounty hunters resort to this kind of activities because they too have other alt accounts join to q different bounty campaign which also required the same rule on requiring them to post a minimum post per week to get stake.
Yes, there are others have changed already knowing that bounty hunting is one of the shittest opportunity to earn here due to a lot of scam projects.

Yep, that could be a reason — laziness. Some just change the words to a synonymous one but the arrangement of words is completely the same. They refuse to exert some efforts like read it first and then translate it based on their own understanding. Maybe they think that no one would notice that they just copied it but there are so many eyes watching in this forum and they are very wary when it comes to plagiarism.

But of course, not all newbies are like that. There are some who really commits themselves in being this forum and that reflects on their posts.

Sometimes it'll make more sense when accusation are given with examples, don't be afraid though as no one can actually harm you when you're doing the right thing or saying the truth. We're all human don't forget that. Subconsciously you might be drawn to meriting a certain users due to their posting quality. If time without numbers you have observe a certain users constantly delivery quality posts automatically you'll begin to see everything he writes as worth meriting (which most times it's) that's why most users tends to get merited always even when what they have written doesn't make any sense to you but it must have made sense that the merited.

Other times due to laziness of reviewing posting history, the meriter tends to over merit a certain post. You see them giving outrageous merit to the post. You might come up with an argument that that topic doesn't deserve such meriting but that's a subjective discussion since in their defense the OP is a quality user.

One thing is for your post to be worth meriting another is for it to be visible to meriters, don't blame them when posts are in boards which not many meriters visit nevertheless don't give up on delivery outstanding posts as the very day your account would be remember, you'll likely get rewarded for all at ones.

Most contributive and constructive posts don't even get merited enough if posters aren't in the clique of those reading it or their names don't ring a bell. A lot of posts get merited simply because of the usernames of the posters, and necessarily not because of what is posted. I have seen this a lot of times with low quality posts. And that reminds me of what Nullius posted concerning the lopsidedness of meriting posts (among other things) in this forum and I like the way he capitulated it variously here. I think the OP shares same sentiment and I believe that to be true too. Newbies suffer more of this merit drought. I sincerely hope that the merit sources here look in the way of these newbies who have quality posts and merit them.

Your post is fine, and has a valid point (even if people react negatively, it's ok). Just don't ask for merits, it's much like upvotes on Reddit, if you say 'pls upvote', people will flag you instead even if your content was good. It's just some psychological thing, I guess.

They are really forgetting the true essence of this forum if they continue on focusing about getting a higher rank instead of giving relevant and meaningful discussion or thoughts. Ranks are somehow important because there are newbies here that who have a prior knowledge about bitcoin and they are not completely ignorant and you will see in the quality of their post that they wants to learn more.


But rank's main use is for us to know who are the most trusted and most professional in terms of this forums. By that, we can ask for help on them if we want to know something that we don't know in this forum. But lower rank doesn't mean that you can't help other people with your opinions.

Member rank, for bounty? This rule can be added, it can reduce the amount of spamming. But this will cause many more problems, people will try to use different strategies to rank up the account to join the bounty. As a result, spamming will increase rather than decrease. Those who do bounty spamming on the bounty board, which does not affect the entire forum. And those who break the rules can't stay here long.

I am a newbie, let me be practical and realistic to the c above comments. You send a child to a college to acquire the best grade and the child found out that getting a best grade come with a lot of merit but yet he's not mentally prepared, what did you expect from the child,copy and paste information to get merit( cheating).
Every newbie need merit to boast there performance but it difficult getting merit but I have a good news for all newbie, take time out and study the forum, read other people comment, make your own research , with time you get merit.
Note somebody want to know how mentally balance you answer crpyto questions, get help from friend, with time you will smile home

This pretty much sums-up the forums take on plagiarism:

The key here is intent, although one may assume that the principal cause for plagiarism is that of cutting corners, and filling-in posts without having to give them much thought. Were I to have left out the quotes above, I figure that my intent would be read accordingly in an appeal ...

Maybe the lack of knowledge and experience in forum has caused beginner to try to do something that violates forum rules such as copy paste. At the same time they think that they have done a good thing because the thread or answer they wrote is of sufficient quality so that it will open up the possibility of getting services. But in the end they will only realize that what they have done has broken the rules and most of them realize when the account has been banned.

Some high ranking member who plead in meta because their account are banned sometime they dont realize that when they are beginner or when low ranking do copy paste or plagiarism. They are not even sure they have done it and will admit it when someone encounter their problem. I think everyone make mistake, but sometime they dont realize it.

If you are a newbie to our form most of their goals are

• earn money
• earn merit

To make successful on those things you must need to earn merits first which is one of the ways is to make a constructive post and next helping others or just making things unique that can help the forum. The problem is you are a newbie and you are not good at this thing so one of the ways is to make plagiarism to make it cool like you are a professional at the end of the day you think you can earn merit but after that, it's all plagiarism but we have other members which can find out if the thread or the post is just copy-paste from the website.

You cannot make the objective on earning if you do not meet the merits so you need to make hard work on it

This kind of thinking is needed by a beginner. Don't be too hasty in going after ranks. Sometimes many ways are done to get merit and reach rank quickly, such as copying articles and then posting on this forum, copying other people's answers and such. That is an instant and not original way, it violates the forum rules about plagiarism. contributing original topics from your own thinking will be better, it will give you broader insight and can learn well. Don't just focus on getting merit, because you will get merit from quality original posts.

there are beginners who do stupid and useless things and there are beginners who have broad and intelligent insight so that they don't copy other people's topics to get merit.

Beginners who only copy other people's topics because they don't read the rules in this forum.

I also don't blame beginners about doing plagiarism, but they also have to learn what is allowed and prohibited in this forum.

Creating a thread with your own ideas without copying other people's topics would be better, even though the thread created is just a general idea that has been asked a lot.

Increasing awareness about making a good contribution, maintaining the quality of posts will certainly have a positive impact going forward.

Same, I will see it if he was really that good in creating a post. Cause what do we know if he really is a news writer? lol jk. But yep we will see it in his previous post, if all his post are really a good written one. I will check if those post are not copied from somewhere. Its easy finding though, copy paste in google and the same article will pop up.

Believe me, people are entitled to their opinions. Besides, negative comments and critics are also needed in the quest of perfection. The point is in how you respond to the comments you get not minding the type.
It's of note that this menace from plagiarism is observed in the forum but then, noted victims are often treated squarely and once you've been there, your sure to learn a lesson.
Also, I associate this act to improper research and an eagerness to rank up at all cost in the least possible time.
And I trust the forum is better prepared to handle the issue. I would also love to add that a topic can not be completely treated as we are prone to new ideas everyday.
Stay safe.

I have the same attitude I am not into merit anymore I just want to make a habit of interacting and participating in discussion in fact I am not looking if I got a merit this week or not, by participating you can learn a lot, things like merit and rank  will come to those who wait, just do what the forum ask of you.

I know that because I have been through in that phase also being new in the forum before. Newcomers were being told that in joining bounty campaigns one could earn them instantly which is really not true or if only one could get lucky to join a project that will really pay.
Due to the fact that we are coming from different countries around the world and language becomes a barrier resorting to copy and pasting posts without also learning the forum rules that could result to banning in the future.
Not to all but maybe there are those existed user created new account for some reason like if they get ban and wish to continue to explore this forum without telling MODs of course to avoid getting ban again for violating ban evasion. This is just my opinion but in my case I do not care what rank I may have as long as I can enjoy to read and reply post. I have been here for 2 years and half I guess and have been seeing new users ranking up already to legendary but did not discourage me to leave in this forum for that small reason getting merit or ranking up issue. LOL
Yes, but think of it that without you or this kind of post we can never lift the forum through writing good post for the forum to your thread. This is why it is normal for others to react violently because they had been here and benefited the forum.
Well I could give you merits but there are more quality post that is deserving than this one. Besides, I am out of smerits because I do not hoard it and will eventually send it if I find post helpful that could be check for reference in the future.

The reason for the plagiarism of some beginners is because of lack of knowledge, they are newbies so they are not that so familiar about the community and to the crypto world as well. They know how important the merit so they will try to create topics that they know and they considered as useful but once no one appreciates it on no one gives him or her merit, they may feel some frustration or sadness because they gave effort on it but they don't receive even one merit. That can be one of the reasons why they ended up doing plagiarism because they see some posts given merits and they tend to copy ideas without giving credits.
Indeed, at the end of the day learning should be our priority, no need to rank up if you only want to gain knowledge. It's better to gain knowledge than to rank up but if you want to achieve something you should work hard for it.

Indeed. You don't need to please someone to give you merits when you started a topic or a content because you don't deserve it if you ask it for someone. You only deserve if someone willingly gives you merits because of your creativity, informative and quality content. It is the reason why other people copies and plagiarized post and topics to earn merits and ranked up faster, but it is impossible for other members to give them merits if they know they just copied it.