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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on July 15, 2020, 08:53:32 AM

Many begginers are involves in plagiarism in order to earn merits and speed up activities to join quick campaign that will enrich them.
It come to my understanding through my observations that many newbies in the forum are already existing member of the forum because a begginer who has no base find it difficult to be merited why someone that created account today before three day will be merited without quality post.
I know vividly that many will react to this post negatively in order to bring me down.

Am only here to learn things I don't know
And anyone who like me can merit me when I make post that interest you.

No need to tell people that they can give you merit when they found your post or your topic interesting or helpful.
They can do it whenever they want. It just seem that you are indirectly pleasing other members to give you merits. You can have it if you deserve it.
And... I think most of us came from that kind of member that will do the fastest way in order to gain.
We should just learn from not so good actions that we've done before. :p

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Quote from: GDragon on July 18, 2020, 01:03:58 AM

I don't know but as a reader I somehow know if a post really comes from the OP or from an article, cause there's a written tone when a topic comes straigth from a crypto news article, wikipedia, etc.

Yeah, you can spot it by means of imagining how it sounds like while reading. If it sounds too formal then most probably it was a plagiarized post. The other method I use is by checking his post history Grin

. Inspect whether there is a pattern in his way of posting or not. For example, if his recent post was very long and clean but almost the rest of his previous posts are one liners then he might really be a plagiarist.

But of course you cannot purely rely on these methods because they are considered as assumptions only. You must still find the original source. Evidences won't lie.

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Newbies are so lazy to learn more about cryptocurrency and blockchain. So they end up copying and plagiarizing the content or the topic, and they don't take credits to the author because they are desperate to earn merits and rank up in a short time for them to be able to join in signature campaigns. But we all know it is not going to happen because it takes a lot of time for us to rank up and we need to make our quality content for us to earn merits.

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Writing and copying topics treated already is isn't bad here but with another style, another idea. A wise man says " copying same post from same source is plagiarism but copying post from different sources is research "
I have seen so many dump threads but was continued by new member asking for permission from the former poster if they should continue. Topics here is already said before but how contributing and more quality could you deliver. That's the essence.
Actually, no body brings you down here. Try as much as you can to deliver quality and contributing posts to deserve merit. Success Buddy

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on July 15, 2020, 08:53:32 AM

It obvious that some newbies are interested in joining campaign instead of studying to know or to learn the rudiments of making quality post on its own.
Many begginers are involves in plagiarism in order to earn merits and speed up activities to join quick campaign that will enrich them.
It come to my understanding through my observations that many newbies in the forum are already existing member of the forum because a begginer who has no base find it difficult to be merited why someone that created account today before three day will be merited without quality post.
I know vividly that many will react to this post negatively in order to bring me down.

Am only here to learn things I don't know
And anyone who like me can merit me when I make post that interest you.

I think the most common reason is those newbies are here only to get merits asap, maybe they don't realize yet that it wouldn't work here cause they haven't read the threads for newbies. They haven't realize yet that forum members will know if the post is a plagiarize one or a well research one.

There are newbies here who are really good too, and members will know it by the way they compose their ideas and topics, I don't know but as a reader I somehow know if a post really comes from the OP or from an article, cause there's a written tone when a topic comes straigth from a crypto news article, wikipedia, etc.

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The answer to your question is obvious why newbies copy already treated topic is because newbies are still learning the journey they choose to go on. Newbies doesn't have much knowledge about the field so that is why they are called newbies. Everyone who starts on a new journey will have to start from the beginning even the experts in other field would have to learn first. Some newbies will copy just to earn merita and most likely will get banned because of plagiarism. l

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on July 15, 2020, 08:53:32 AM

It obvious that some newbies are interested in joining campaign instead of studying to know or to learn the rudiments of making quality post on its own.
Many begginers are involves in plagiarism in order to earn merits and speed up activities to join quick campaign that will enrich them.
It come to my understanding through my observations that many newbies in the forum are already existing member of the forum because a begginer who has no base find it difficult to be merited why someone that created account today before three day will be merited without quality post.
I know vividly that many will react to this post negatively in order to bring me down.

Am only here to learn things I don't know
And anyone who like me can merit me when I make post that interest you.

When someone copy some content from the existing article or previous post to gain merits, they may get merit but surely their account will be banned permanently so all their efforts in copy-pasting will be ruined sooner or later, but not every newbies are doing the same thing some are trying to learn while others learn very quickly that is the difference.Nothing is stopping you from learning and also you can report if you found someone plagiarising.

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Quote from: robelneo on July 16, 2020, 07:25:02 AM

I experienced giving merit to a newbie that I thought created a very good post only to find out later that the guy only copy and paste an existing article from one article site, but it was too late, since then I always check if the posts are copy-paste.

If the post is the first one and coming from a newbie or low rank we should be very careful cause theres really a high tendency that the user copy paste it. Also we can feel if the user are saying authentic or if its too good enough, what we can do is compared his previous post to his good post if the way he construct somehow not match then chances that he copied it.

How do you check by the way if the post are copy paste? Ranking is really the goal of some for bounty even others work will be copied just to get merits.

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on July 15, 2020, 08:53:32 AM

It obvious that some newbies are interested in joining campaign instead of studying to know or to learn the rudiments of making quality post on its own.
Many begginers are involves in plagiarism in order to earn merits and speed up activities to join quick campaign that will enrich them.

I don't want to be hypocrite I used to be one of them I am in a hurry to rank because I want to join in good bounty that require you to rank at least in a junior member, but after having a newbie rank for a long time i did realize that I need to contribute healthy topics and forget about this merit for a while and let things go on it's course.

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Quote from: robelneo on July 16, 2020, 07:25:02 AM

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That’s happened to me once or twice that I’m aware of. It’s no big deal, but it brings along two side effects:
- I normally now check first-timer posts more thoroughly.
- That, laterally, plays against other legit Newbies, since one looks at posts with more caution, and perhaps waits for a later occasion to ratify a trend in posting (and not just a one-off).

Of course the above is not clockwork, and things often depend on the available time one has and the spirit on is in at a given moment in time (should not be that much of an issue- it took me a month and a half to get my first merit here, so there’s that …).

Naturally, one will not always get it right, as can be seen here (does not apply to Newbies strictly):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsendban

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on July 15, 2020, 08:53:32 AM

It come to my understanding through my observations that many newbies in the forum are already existing member of the forum because a begginer who has no base find it difficult to be merited why someone that created account today before three day will be merited without quality post.
I know vividly that many will react to this post negatively in order to bring me down.

Most of newbies you mentioned above are created to cheating on a campaign
So it is not surprising if they doing plagiarism to gain some merit for taking more rewards from the campaign which they follow

As far I know some newbies also registered here are to solving technical issues they faced, pure to learn cryptocurrencies, and not focusing on how to rank up. These kinds of newbie have had a warm welcome from old members and of course merit easily come to them.

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on July 15, 2020, 08:53:32 AM

Am only here to learn things I don't know
And anyone who like me can merit me when I make post that interest you.

You can still learn to sophisticate that which you knew, learning is prognosis you can't learn it all, the topic about merit, is subjectary, I can like you post, maybe because of something I or anyone digest poor quality then wouldn't merit it, but I can hate your post -hating what the post televised- but the quality is pure bliss, then I can merit.
Your meriter shouldn't be like you,

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on July 15, 2020, 08:53:32 AM

It obvious that some newbies are interested in joining campaign instead of studying to know or to learn the rudiments of making quality post on its own.
Many begginers are involved in plagiarism in order to earn merits and speed up activities to join quick campaign that will enrich them.

Am only here to learn things I don't know
And anyone who like me can merit me when I make post that interest you.

I experienced giving merit to a newbie that I thought created a very good post only to find out later that the guy only copy and paste an existing article from one article site, but it was too late, since then I always check if the posts are copy-paste, and remind them to include the source, some newbies are in a hurry to rank up to the point of using other people's work.

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Plagiarized contents are really a curse for this forum and users.Newbies are making these because they think they are useless and they don't think that if we do something good members will support me fully and I will algo get a higher rank.
Another reason can be that they are altcoin of other users and using them to spam.

By the End. Copy Paste isn't allowed and it has a higher punishment.So never try this.

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on July 15, 2020, 08:53:32 AM

It obvious that some newbies are interested in joining campaign instead of studying to know or to learn the rudiments of making quality post on its own.
Many begginers are involves in plagiarism in order to earn merits and speed up activities to join quick campaign that will enrich them.
It come to my understanding through my observations that many newbies in the forum are already existing member of the forum because a begginer who has no base find it difficult to be merited why someone that created account today before three day will be merited without quality post.
I know vividly that many will react to this post negatively in order to bring me down.

Am only here to learn things I don't know
And anyone who like me can merit me when I make post that interest you.

There might be some newbies that is like this but we can't really judge them if it is their intention.

In my opinion, they are not newbies if they already have an idea or just wanted to join campaign here. I guess they are just alt account of some members here wanted to earn more from joining the campaigns.

Since they are newbie they probably think that they have an excuse to do some mistake here in the forum.

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Is only careful readers will understand the text,
The text is very comprehensive, so before you justify me try to understand the topic sentence.
Am not here to create room for negative argument rather to portray my observation in the forum.

But my opinion should not prevent anyone who want to credit me good,
Because am here to acquire knowledge not to disregard anyone because no one is master of wisdom.

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on July 15, 2020, 08:53:32 AM

It obvious that some newbies are interested in joining campaign instead of studying to know or to learn the rudiments of making quality post on its own.
Many begginers are involves in plagiarism in order to earn merits and speed up activities to join quick campaign that will enrich them.

They may easily get merit but the downside of it is getting banned if detected that they plagiarized their posts. Is it worth it?

Quote from: GeorgeJohn on July 15, 2020, 08:53:32 AM

It come to my understanding through my observations that many newbies in the forum are already existing member of the forum because a begginer who has no base find it difficult to be merited why someone that created account today before three day will be merited without quality post.

They may enjoy the merit of their other account but once exposed they will get negative reputation which by then render their account banned from participating in most of the BTC sig campaigns. Aside from that, if you are a quality poster, even without circles of friends, you can easily gain merit.

Quote from: GeorgeJohn on July 15, 2020, 08:53:32 AM

I know vividly that many will react to this post negatively in order to bring me down.

I would love to post negative and "bring you down" but reading your post made me to dizzy to "bring you down". Grin

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If they wanted to learn, they could obtain a university degree get a job with a good salary.
the majority wanted to earn quickly, and since there are no educational requirements for profit, they want to get merits to earn money.
Plagiarism is the fastest way to get these points because they are high-quality posts and may get merit fast.

Writing high-quality writing requires long hours of thinking and ideas. So, instead of thinking and spending hours working hard, you can steal one of these posts.

Fear and panic are the second reason for not writing high-quality posts. They are either afraid of wasting hours and not getting points or are terrified that their ideas are not appreciated well.

https://sites.google.com/site/helpstopplagiarism/summary

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on July 15, 2020, 08:53:32 AM

It obvious that some newbies are interested in joining campaign instead of studying to know or to learn the rudiments of making quality post on its own.
Many begginers are involves in plagiarism in order to earn merits and speed up activities to join quick campaign that will enrich them.
It come to my understanding through my observations that many newbies in the forum are already existing member of the forum because a begginer who has no base find it difficult to be merited why someone that created account today before three day will be merited without quality post.
I know vividly that many will react to this post negatively in order to bring me down.

Am only here to learn things I don't know
And anyone who like me can merit me when I make post that interest you.

well if they do this the account use to post that thread will be ban by moderator so all of the text copying from original content will be wasted.

When the account is already ban, they will learn now that copying original article is a big mistake and will not help them to earn even single merits for plagiarism .

Its easy to know such a rules if they are searching for bitcoin talk rules before posting.

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