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legendary
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July 30, 2024, 03:30:25 PM
#25

Tariffs don't necessarily mean higher prices, they are likely to create more competition.  Effectively, tariffs are taxes on corporations, i.e. the rich.

Exactly the opposite: tariffs necessarily mean higher prices and the consumers will pay it ("the rich" will not care much). You have to pay the price of the seller plus the tariff and it gives your home industry zero incentive to lower the prices. This is economy 101, seriously...

You may argue that it protects local jobs, which is true, but at the cost the consumers subsidizing via those higher prices. It is a handout without government mediation.


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Here is where you are missing it. Trump's promise to reduce regulations.

When you combine tariffs that are against the products from other countries, with the freedom from regulation in the US, Americans will jump right in and start manufacturing the now-expensive foreign products for themselves... expensive because of tariffs.

When this happens, America will start to out-produce other countries. Other countries will slow down their products coming into America. Less foreign products means less tariff money for government. Less tariff money means a reduction in tariff prices so more products can come in to give government their money. Reduction in tariffs means competition for the US manufacturer.

And that is what it is all about... the free market. It has to do with making America great... again if she wasn't for a while.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 2394
Merit: 1632
Do not die for Putin
July 30, 2024, 11:06:35 AM
#24

Tariffs don't necessarily mean higher prices, they are likely to create more competition.  Effectively, tariffs are taxes on corporations, i.e. the rich.

Exactly the opposite: tariffs necessarily mean higher prices and the consumers will pay it ("the rich" will not care much). You have to pay the price of the seller plus the tariff and it gives your home industry zero incentive to lower the prices. This is economy 101, seriously...

You may argue that it protects local jobs, which is true, but at the cost the consumers subsidizing via those higher prices. It is a handout without government mediation.


Putin's phrase that Biden is preferable for Russia seemed to me more strange. Why?

Thanks to Biden now Russia owns half of Ukraine. Biden and Putin are best buddies.

I am going to quote this from you in case Trump wins. Whatever deal he makes, I am sure he will be giving even what Ruzzia has not been able to take.

You are aware that the aid package was passed with strong Trump opposition while Ukraine had to give land as they were unable to defend? I wonder where you get your news.

I'll ask again, does paying more taxes give politicians the ability to change the weather?

It's almost as if you think the rise in carbon levels is a problem that politicians want to solve. If that were the case, we would have nearly free electricity tomorrow and everybody would be driving electric cars in 10 years' time.

No.  And no.   I miss intelligent conversation Sad


Yes, actually it may. You pay more taxes and you can implement greener energy, which potentially can change the climate. The electric car is not "green", electricity can become green or not.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
July 28, 2024, 01:49:12 PM
#23
I'll ask again, does paying more taxes give politicians the ability to change the weather?

It's almost as if you think the rise in carbon levels is a problem that politicians want to solve. If that were the case, we would have nearly free electricity tomorrow and everybody would be driving electric cars in 10 years' time.

No.  And no.   I miss intelligent conversation Sad
member
Activity: 79
Merit: 35
July 28, 2024, 12:48:17 PM
#22
2021 was Biden's first year in office, and the first thing he did was reverse the tariffs on Chinese goods.  Thank you for illustrating my point.
What point did I illustrate?

Tariffs don't necessarily mean higher prices, they are likely to create more competition.  Effectively, tariffs are taxes on corporations, i.e. the rich.

Biden wants the rich to pay their share of taxes?  That was my point, but I understand your need to take it.  Smiley

No politician will tax the rich, that's a lie.  Biden has been in office for 3.5 years, what taxes has he imposed on the rich?

I'll try another way:  Forcing a consumer to pay a carbon tax does not inspire the producers to develop clean energy.  You have to hurt the producers.   Taxing the poor will not inspire them to increase domestic production.  You need to tax the producers.

I'll ask again, does paying more taxes give politicians the ability to change the weather?

It's almost as if you think the rise in carbon levels is a problem that politicians want to solve. If that were the case, we would have nearly free electricity tomorrow and everybody would be driving electric cars in 10 years' time.
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
July 28, 2024, 10:20:29 AM
#21
He kept inflation low, investments performed well, interest rates were low, there was world peace, he knew the difference between a man and a woman, he protected the border, he was against the disfigurement of children to appease the mental illness of their parents… My question is, what did Biden do that wasn’t a complete disaster?

Answer:  Biden respected the difference between a man and a woman.

 Cool

Regarding the difference between a man and woman, it's the country that is sick, not the president or the presidency. Most of the higher-up political leaders are reasonably understanding of this difference.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 2025
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
July 28, 2024, 06:55:59 AM
#20
Regarding the economical status of the United States, I don't understand quite yet why some people point out the bad state of investments of the economy. Because it would seem to me the stock market is outperforming in this period of President Biden. Though, it is true one cannot leave aside the fact inflation still is a problem for a non-neglectable percentage of the population of the country.
This incoming election to me it does not seem to be as much a referendum on the economical status of the country, but rather about the so-called culture war going on there, that was the platform many politicians are going for within the Republican party, they have learnt it is a hot topic which keeps the public engaged.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
July 28, 2024, 01:22:48 AM
#19
He kept inflation low, investments performed well, interest rates were low, there was world peace, he knew the difference between a man and a woman, he protected the border, he was against the disfigurement of children to appease the mental illness of their parents… My question is, what did Biden do that wasn’t a complete disaster?

Answer:  Biden respected the difference between a man and a woman.

 Cool
donator
Activity: 4760
Merit: 4323
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
July 27, 2024, 10:50:37 PM
#18
Alik Bakhshi

Why not Trump



     The fact that Russian fascists want to see Trump in the White House, and not Kamala Harris, is enough to not vote for Trump. I don't understand Americans, well, Trump was president, and what did he do for America to vote for him again?



07/26/2024

He kept inflation low, investments performed well, interest rates were low, there was world peace, he knew the difference between a man and a woman, he protected the border, he was against the disfigurement of children to appease the mental illness of their parents… My question is, what did Biden do that wasn’t a complete disaster?
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
July 27, 2024, 09:33:18 PM
#17
2021 was Biden's first year in office, and the first thing he did was reverse the tariffs on Chinese goods.  Thank you for illustrating my point.

What point did I illustrate?  Biden wants the rich to pay their share of taxes?  That was my point, but I understand your need to take it.  Smiley

I don't understand where you're going with this.  Does paying more taxes give politicians the ability to change the weather?

I'll try another way:  Forcing a consumer to pay a carbon tax does not inspire the producers to develop clean energy.  You have to hurt the producers.   Taxing the poor will not inspire them to increase domestic production.  You need to tax the producers.
member
Activity: 79
Merit: 35
July 27, 2024, 07:48:09 PM
#16
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U.S. imports for 2022 was $3,966.17B, a 16.37% increase from 2021. U.S. imports for 2021 was $3,408.28B, a 22.75% increase from 2020.

Most of everything you purchase is foreign made, and your worker base is becoming lazier and more demanding.

2021 was Biden's first year in office, and the first thing he did was reverse the tariffs on Chinese goods.  Thank you for illustrating my point.

Do you also believe the carbon tax incentives carbon neutral energy discovery?   It doesn't because you are targeting the wrong people, just like here. 

I don't understand where you're going with this.  Does paying more taxes give politicians the ability to change the weather?
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
July 27, 2024, 06:51:53 PM
#15
Tariffs only hurt if you are buying foreign made goods.  It'll hurt temporarily because most of our non-food items are made over seas, but it incentivizes domestic production.  That's only reasonable.

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U.S. imports for 2022 was $3,966.17B, a 16.37% increase from 2021. U.S. imports for 2021 was $3,408.28B, a 22.75% increase from 2020.
  Most of everything you purchase is foreign made, and your worker base is becoming lazier and more demanding.   

Do you also believe the carbon tax incentives carbon neutral energy discovery?   It doesn't because you are targeting the wrong people, just like here. 
member
Activity: 79
Merit: 35
July 27, 2024, 06:29:47 PM
#14
Personally, I don't understand it. With Trump promising to get rid of the Federal income tax, I would think that everybody would vote for Trump, love him or hate him. Do people really love taxation that much? Or haven't they heard this Trump promise?

Not everyone shares your gullibility, BD.  Trump will replace those taxes with tariffs, which is a basic flat tax no matter your income.

Tariffs only hurt if you are buying foreign made goods.  It'll hurt temporarily because most of our non-food items are made over seas, but it incentivizes domestic production.  That's only reasonable.  Any rational person would want as many items produced in his own country as possible.  It helps their own society, keeps their countrymen employed, and reduces dependency on foreign made essentials.  The Covid pandemic taught us about those risks.

I'm voting for Trump because he is the only one who seems to care about the interests of the American people.  He was the first president in decades to not start a new war, or encourage our involvement in other people's wars.  And I hope he stops all foreign aid, including Ukraine and Israel.  Our national debt is out of control and we can't afford any more.  We need that money here to fix so many of our own problems.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
July 27, 2024, 03:38:17 PM
#13
Personally, I don't understand it. With Trump promising to get rid of the Federal income tax, I would think that everybody would vote for Trump, love him or hate him. Do people really love taxation that much? Or haven't they heard this Trump promise?

Not everyone shares your gullibility, BD.  Trump will replace those taxes with tariffs, which is a basic flat tax no matter your income.
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1386
July 27, 2024, 03:10:53 PM
#12
Kamala is rising in the polls... if they are telling the truth.

Personally, I don't understand it. With Trump promising to get rid of the Federal income tax, I would think that everybody would vote for Trump, love him or hate him. Do people really love taxation that much? Or haven't they heard this Trump promise?

Cool

AND Trump is the BITCOIN PREZ!
member
Activity: 182
Merit: 24
OrangeFren.com
July 27, 2024, 11:22:33 AM
#11
If you look at Donald trump performance in his administration and Joe Biden performance in his administration, you will prefer Donald trump party than Joe Biden party.
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
July 27, 2024, 06:17:11 AM
#10
Kamala is rising in the polls... if they are telling the truth.

Personally, I don't understand it. With Trump promising to get rid of the Federal income tax, I would think that everybody would vote for Trump, love him or hate him. Do people really love taxation that much? Or haven't they heard this Trump promise?

Cool
legendary
Activity: 3276
Merit: 2442
July 27, 2024, 04:16:09 AM
#9
Putin's phrase that Biden is preferable for Russia seemed to me more strange. Why?

Thanks to Biden now Russia owns half of Ukraine. Biden and Putin are best buddies.
jr. member
Activity: 49
Merit: 1
July 27, 2024, 04:05:25 AM
#8
Putin's phrase that Biden is preferable for Russia seemed to me more strange. Why?
newbie
Activity: 55
Merit: 0
July 27, 2024, 03:18:29 AM
#7
Republican, this is good for the United States as far as I know. I talk to several people from the United States, they all want to see Trump as president. Democrats and other leftists are only corrupting America.
sr. member
Activity: 2618
Merit: 439
July 26, 2024, 09:22:20 PM
#6
Voting for a candidate can be a result of many issues. Most voters don't know much about foreign policies, all they are concerned about is the internal affairs.
I mean Americans are notorious for being self-centered and thinking that they are the superior country in all the world. So it doesn’t surprise me that they have no consideration of how these candidates will handle international affairs. USA is involved in many political and territorial issues, sometimes even if they are not the ones directly involved, somehow they are still involved.

I don’t think Trump is the best option but to be fair neither is Harris but American citizens need to vote for the lesser evil whoever may that be in their opinion.
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