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Quote from: koang on January 19, 2020, 08:40:34 AM

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The smart investors don't wait for the perfect trading setup and they always rely on the respective fundamentals. Buy low and sell high trading strategy is the main core of the mirror trading bots which is used for taking high profits in volatile market weeks. Long term investment is totally different than short term trading ideas.

I know

long-term investment is totally different from short-term trading
But the purpose of everything is profit, right ...
long term, short term or medium term is just a strategy to maximize profits
In the crypto world we must quickly adapt to all possibilities so that our money is not lost
There are times when we have to think as "smart investors" and there are times when we have to think as traders. IMHO

BTT, I don't really care who caused the dump but I just focus finding loopholes profit from every condition

Actually, I don't know what this has to do with the fact that after listing on exchange, the prices of tokens fall ...?

Anyway, in my opinion, it's very stupid if an investor sells something with the idea that he buys back cheaper. Thinking in this way, even after buying cheaper, the price should go down more, so it's quite a strange investment strategy.

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The smart investors don't wait for the perfect trading setup and they always rely on the respective fundamentals. Buy low and sell high trading strategy is the main core of the mirror trading bots which is used for taking high profits in volatile market weeks. Long term investment is totally different than short term trading ideas.

I know

long-term investment is totally different from short-term trading
But the purpose of everything is profit, right ...
long term, short term or medium term is just a strategy to maximize profits
In the crypto world we must quickly adapt to all possibilities so that our money is not lost
There are times when we have to think as "smart investors" and there are times when we have to think as traders. IMHO

BTT, I don't really care who caused the dump but I just focus finding loopholes profit from every condition

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Quote from: pealr12 on January 14, 2020, 08:27:45 PM

in my own opinion why price down after listing in exchanges its because investors wants immediate profit and then buy back at lower price, hold the coin for atleast month till the price recover.

If investors do as like you said, "sell immediately and buy back at a lower price" this indicates that investors high optimism about the future of the project. this is a good sign ....

So why do we have to hold the coins till the prices recover?
wouldn't it be more profitable if we implemented the same strategy?

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Quote from: pearnapple on January 18, 2020, 07:46:38 PM

The most important thing to have a coin's sustainable growth is that investors could see its value that is somehow not seen in many of today's ventures. Developers never have anything to do as a long-term plan, they're always pretending to be optimistic, so they believe it's enough to be included in an exchange that doesn't even have legit volume. That's why most of the new coins dump straight away after the listing.

Any project is risky and the development of those projects will determine the price of that coin when listed. In fact, the bear market is the main reason why those coins are down and investor sentiment is only concerned about profits, so it will be difficult to make a profit. In my opinion, there are not many solutions to avoid this and should limit investment in new projects because the risk will be very high.

Personally, I only buy when that coin is listed at the big exchange and will wait a few days to know exactly what will happen next.

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Quote from: Dhoe on January 09, 2020, 10:39:53 AM

I agree with some projects that hold the distribution of tokens to investors or bounty Hunter, or distribute them in stages so that prices can be maintained on the Exchange.

Not necessarily those who distribute gradually will keep prices because there are many projects that do that, but prices in the market still experience a big dump

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The most important thing to have a coin's sustainable growth is that investors could see its value that is somehow not seen in many of today's ventures. Developers never have anything to do as a long-term plan, they're always pretending to be optimistic, so they believe it's enough to be included in an exchange that doesn't even have legit volume. That's why most of the new coins dump straight away after the listing.

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Quote from: johnwest on January 09, 2020, 12:05:00 PM

It doesnt happen to all the coins. There are many coins whose price gets doubled or tripled when it lists on a reputed exchange.
If there was a bounty and if that was distributed early then most of the bounty hunters are bound to sell these days, also there may be investors who are planning to cash out their profit.

I agree to this. This is the reality of what is happening to a coin or a token. Although not all coins are affected, we know that this is really happening in real life. I guess we need to think of a way that will not affect the token's value or price. I think we need a work-around pr contingency plan when the bounty hunters and investors sell their token or coin immediately after the campaign.

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Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 09:48:30 AM

We always see the price rise for a short period after the listing in the exchanges or after IEO, but soon price be come down,
this may due to two reasons:
The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.
The second reason is the large sale of those who got his coin free such as airdrop.
Isn't that true?

the both reasons is true. but the greatest reason who really make price down so fast that number two is many bounty hunters sell their coins after launched on the market, bounty hunters sell their coins as quickly as possible because ussually after coins launched the price of coins very high and make seller get big profit if they are selling coins as quickly as possible than hold for longer

I have seen many times the coin was listed on exchange and its price dropped, and the bounty hunters have not yet received their rewards. Often, developers give tokens to partners, for example, ICOrating websites without being blocked for a certain period of time. Not only bounty hunters are the reason for the drop in price, but all who get tokens for free like in airdrop, or for services like partners.

it happen in some coins of ico not all ico project. in above i said that the both reasons is true but the greatest reason is number two. in this case maybe because reason number one the coins or token has no real value and make token price dropped before the coins distributed to bounty hunters or the bounty hunters not sell their coins yet

I think that both points do not have a direct relationship with each other. The investment in ICO is a long-term investment, and in my opinion people who received payment in tokens wanted to do cash out as soon as possible, regardless of whether the project will be successful or not. If tokens given away for free or with very large dyscount were blocked for several months, in many cases it would be possible to avoid a price dump.

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Quote from: Yurkov on January 14, 2020, 11:08:38 AM

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Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 09:48:30 AM

We always see the price rise for a short period after the listing in the exchanges or after IEO, but soon price be come down,
this may due to two reasons:
The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.
The second reason is the large sale of those who got his coin free such as airdrop.
Isn't that true?

the both reasons is true. but the greatest reason who really make price down so fast that number two is many bounty hunters sell their coins after launched on the market, bounty hunters sell their coins as quickly as possible because ussually after coins launched the price of coins very high and make seller get big profit if they are selling coins as quickly as possible than hold for longer

I have seen many times the coin was listed on exchange and its price dropped, and the bounty hunters have not yet received their rewards. Often, developers give tokens to partners, for example, ICOrating websites without being blocked for a certain period of time. Not only bounty hunters are the reason for the drop in price, but all who get tokens for free like in airdrop, or for services like partners.

it happen in some coins of ico not all ico project. in above i said that the both reasons is true but the greatest reason is number two. in this case maybe because reason number one the coins or token has no real value and make token price dropped before the coins distributed to bounty hunters or the bounty hunters not sell their coins yet

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Quote from: pealr12 on January 14, 2020, 08:27:45 PM

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Quote from: Santri on January 14, 2020, 02:35:53 PM

Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 09:48:30 AM

The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.

I agree with for first reason

And I do not agree with both of you, because the token at the beginning almost always has no value. Its value increases with the development of the project, and it always lasts at least a few months. It is rare for a project to collect money when it has a finished product that adds value to the project and his token.

even i dont agree ,sometimes its not always what you think, in my own opinion why price down after listing in exchanges its because investors wants immediate profit and then buy back at lower price, hold the coin for atleast month till the price recover.

This has certainly been the case in recent months, maybe even from around mid-2018. Earlier, in 2017, the situation was different, it was worth buying tokens at the ICO, because if the project was good, then often immediately after entering the exchange its price increased. At a time when a large number of scams appeared, investors began to leave the market and prices began to fall.

Quote from: alan2here on January 14, 2020, 09:38:56 PM

Most of the coins I know have a very good development plan, but when listed at big exchange, the value of that coin has only decreased and that makes me very nervous when choosing to invest. I think if this situation is not solved, investors will be very afraid to participate and will certainly affect their profits. In fact, I would love to invest in new projects but maybe I should consider carefully before making a decision.

Of course, this is a time for new projects but I will only choose to invest when the value of that coin is higher than the original price.

Like I wrote in the answer above, the situation now is different, but we always should to consider our investment on the basis of a good analysis of the project .. Although this sometimes does not help also.

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Quote from: dodgrad on January 14, 2020, 12:51:05 PM

Developers are doing everything to encourage investors. Unfortunately, but they often make very bad decisions. Therefore, when choosing a project in which we want to invest, we must check the dev team and its achievements very well. Unfortunately, but to avoid falling prices after entering the exchange, the economy of tokens should be prepared by experts, not people with a good idea but without experience.

Most of the coins I know have a very good development plan, but when listed at big exchange, the value of that coin has only decreased and that makes me very nervous when choosing to invest. I think if this situation is not solved, investors will be very afraid to participate and will certainly affect their profits. In fact, I would love to invest in new projects but maybe I should consider carefully before making a decision.

Of course, this is a time for new projects but I will only choose to invest when the value of that coin is higher than the original price.

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Quote from: Divinespark on January 14, 2020, 11:27:05 AM

Many projects do not have any airdrop or bounty before being listed. But after the exchange, the price quickly dropped many times compared to the IEO price, so I guess the price is not affected by airdrops and bounty. The price depends on the needs of the investor and if the investor does not need to buy those tokens, surely the price will collapse.

Even without an airdrop our bounty system, most coins will be dumped at the initial exchange listing. This is because there have been people accumulating the coins for however long with no where else to sell them off. Plus, since there hasn't even been an exchange for the coin, it probably isn't all that popular so accumulating it is probably fairly easy. I've seen a few people that mine new coins when they first come out and hold them until an exchange listing and do pretty well on it.

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Quote from: dodgrad on January 14, 2020, 02:45:21 PM

Quote from: Santri on January 14, 2020, 02:35:53 PM

Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 09:48:30 AM

The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.

I agree with for first reason

And I do not agree with both of you, because the token at the beginning almost always has no value. Its value increases with the development of the project, and it always lasts at least a few months. It is rare for a project to collect money when it has a finished product that adds value to the project and his token.

even i dont agree ,sometimes its not always what you think, in my own opinion why price down after listing in exchanges its because investors wants immediate profit and then buy back at lower price, hold the coin for atleast month till the price recover.

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Quote from: Santri on January 14, 2020, 02:35:53 PM

Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 09:48:30 AM

The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.

I agree with for first reason

And I do not agree with both of you, because the token at the beginning almost always has no value. Its value increases with the development of the project, and it always lasts at least a few months. It is rare for a project to collect money when it has a finished product that adds value to the project and his token.

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Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 09:48:30 AM

The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.

I agree with for first reason
but for second reason I disagree because tokens for airdrop is only zero point percent or one percent so it can't be a trigger for dump
Another possible reason for dump is that bonus given to the initial investor is too large

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Developers are doing everything to encourage investors. Unfortunately, but they often make very bad decisions. Therefore, when choosing a project in which we want to invest, we must check the dev team and its achievements very well. Unfortunately, but to avoid falling prices after entering the exchange, the economy of tokens should be prepared by experts, not people with a good idea but without experience.

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Quote from: Divinespark on January 14, 2020, 11:27:05 AM

Many projects do not have any airdrop or bounty before being listed. But after the exchange, the price quickly dropped many times compared to the IEO price, so I guess the price is not affected by airdrops and bounty. The price depends on the needs of the investor and if the investor does not need to buy those tokens, surely the price will collapse.

For the price to fall, it's not enough that nobody wants to buy, but someone has to want to sell. The question is, who sells it at such a low price?

In my opinion, developers sell tokens at too low price for early investors - sometimes up to 95% cheaper than the ICO price. It is obvious that if the ICO price is, for example $1, and the early investor bought for $0.05, even if he sells for $0.10, he has a 100% profit. But in fact, the price drops by 90%

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Quote from: Dhoe on January 09, 2020, 10:39:53 AM

Quote from: WalkerIVIV on January 09, 2020, 10:27:45 AM

Demand and supply will always be the main things to determine the price of the coin. This is the rule in the economic when you are playing in the market. Crypto is a little bit different consider it has no regulation and the manipulation can happen anytime. The downfall of the coin after listing can be created by the whales too. It's a bit difficult to know is that caused by the manipulation or determined by the market.

One reason in my opinion is because investors and Bounty Hunter are directly selling their tokens after listing in Exchange. I agree with some projects that hold the distribution of tokens to investors or bounty Hunter, or distribute them in stages so that prices can be maintained on the Exchange.

As long as the coin has enough liquidity and it can be prevented and this has already proven so many times. The problem is we can't even trust all of the developers to hold or give more delay to open the contract or unlock the tokens. We have faced so many times the developers have dumped their tokens to the market while investors or even the hunters didn't get even a single coin.

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Many projects do not have any airdrop or bounty before being listed. But after the exchange, the price quickly dropped many times compared to the IEO price, so I guess the price is not affected by airdrops and bounty. The price depends on the needs of the investor and if the investor does not need to buy those tokens, surely the price will collapse.

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Quote from: onyek16M on January 14, 2020, 09:59:19 AM

Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 09:48:30 AM

We always see the price rise for a short period after the listing in the exchanges or after IEO, but soon price be come down,
this may due to two reasons:
The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.
The second reason is the large sale of those who got his coin free such as airdrop.
Isn't that true?

the both reasons is true. but the greatest reason who really make price down so fast that number two is many bounty hunters sell their coins after launched on the market, bounty hunters sell their coins as quickly as possible because ussually after coins launched the price of coins very high and make seller get big profit if they are selling coins as quickly as possible than hold for longer

I have seen many times the coin was listed on exchange and its price dropped, and the bounty hunters have not yet received their rewards. Often, developers give tokens to partners, for example, ICOrating websites without being blocked for a certain period of time. Not only bounty hunters are the reason for the drop in price, but all who get tokens for free like in airdrop, or for services like partners.

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