Why Satoshi Nakamoto WON'T win a Nobel Prize - page 3.

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Quote from: RKing on October 16, 2015, 04:36:10 AM

When Bitcoin goes mainstream, it is possible to award Nakamoto Nobel Prize if he wants to identify himself.

i doubt he is not holding a very big fortune, it's the reason i think he is not revealing himself anywhere, and i doubt he care about the price nobel, he seems someone who like to be anon and not reveal his identity

not someone that aim at being famous with his face

Quote from: n2004al on October 16, 2015, 05:40:25 AM

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Quote from: RKing on October 16, 2015, 04:36:10 AM

When Bitcoin goes mainstream, it is possible to award Nakamoto Nobel Prize if he wants to identify himself.

i doubt he is holding a very big fortune, it's the reason i think he is not revealing himself anywhere, and i doubt he care about the price nobel, he seems someone who like to be anon and not reveal his identity

not someone that aim at being famous with his face

You think that 1 000 000 bitcoin (see the first link below) or 1 500 000 bitcoin (see the second link below) are not a big fortune? Lol. I will be very happy and will consider myself as a big lucky person if I had even with 1000 of those. Much more than happy and lucky ... Cheesy

Or you think that hime has donated all those.... Huh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/satoshi-nakamoto-15-million-bitcoins-we-need-answers-37333

p.s. was a mistake, i mean "he is not holding" forgot the not Cheesy

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When Bitcoin goes mainstream, it is possible to award Nakamoto Nobel Prize if he wants to identify himself.

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Quote from: johnyj on October 15, 2015, 11:07:29 PM

Similar to Nobel peace prize which once awarded to Obama, economy prize is very political. In fact economics is not science but politics, all the economy theory directly benefit one group of people while hurt another group of people, due to the nature of economics (resource allocation).

Disagree with this conception of economy conception. If the economy is a normal market economy no one will be be hurt (or very few will are they which would feel hurts) if it will be a normal person who made every kind of job. Normally in such economies everyone is rewarded by the job made. So, you will have that which deserve to have. The resource allocation doesn't mean in itself the hurt of someone and the joy for another but take that you give.

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I dnt think that it is possible to actually award nakamoto, could be a rule against that. Furthermore, if it was actually a group of people, only 3 of the group (if bigger than 3) can be awarded for the same thing; there would need to be some establishment of hierarchy. Take for example, Rosalind Franklin who took pictures of the structure of DNA that was published on nature's publication but was not awarded the nobel prize since her job was only taking data, a bit harsh for a rule eh?

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Similar to Nobel peace prize which once awarded to Obama, economy prize is very political. In fact economics is not science but politics, all the economy theory directly benefit one group of people while hurt another group of people, due to the nature of economics (resource allocation)

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Quote from: jacee on October 14, 2015, 07:51:35 AM

Quote from: BlackPanda on October 14, 2015, 07:46:52 AM

satoshi does not need to be recognized with the Nobel Prize. satoshi will always be recognized by the wider community, especially the users of bitcoin.

Had to agree with this.
And satoshi probably don't want to be noticed by everyone. Just like his work, the bitcoins, maybe he wants to remain anonymous to us and not be known with a nobel prize.

because that is extraordinary not only going to see. They will always be remembered. remembered as a reformer.

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Quote from: dothebeats on October 15, 2015, 07:57:46 AM

Quote from: ANdr0id on October 14, 2015, 01:07:02 PM

Isn't it known as "The Nobel Peace Prize"?
Or is there one now, as mentioned earlier, for economics? If so then yes. Why not?
But don't expect him or her to show up and accept it. Tongue

Nobel Prize for Econonics is an award created by the Swedish bank and is completely not related to Alfred Noble's award.

Repeat of my previous post:

It is true but is true even the fact that is treated and awarded in the same way like the other Nobel prizes. From the Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Memorial_Prize_in_Economic_Sciences

"The Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences (officially Swedish: Sveriges riksbanks pris i ekonomisk vetenskap till Alfred Nobels minne, or the Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel), commonly referred to as the Nobel Prize in Economics, and as a "category of the Nobel Prize" by the Nobel Foundation itself, which owns the name Nobel Prize, is an award for outstanding contributions to the field of economics, and generally regarded as the most prestigious award for that field. It is not one of the prizes that Alfred Nobel established in his will in 1895, but instead was established 73 years later by a donation to the foundation from Sweden's central bank, the Sveriges Riksbank, on the bank's 300th anniversary. Winners are announced with the Nobel Prize winners, and receive the award at the same ceremony."

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Quote from: ANdr0id on October 14, 2015, 01:07:02 PM

Isn't it known as "The Nobel Peace Prize"?
Or is there one now, as mentioned earlier, for economics? If so then yes. Why not?
But don't expect him or her to show up and accept it. Tongue

Nobel Prize for Econonics is an award created by the Swedish bank and is completely not related to Alfred Noble's award.

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Quote from: RKing on October 15, 2015, 03:38:30 AM

Quote from: n2004al on October 15, 2015, 03:18:42 AM

Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on October 14, 2015, 08:35:45 AM

why need to win a Nobel Prize? its useless , i would rather winning ton of money than a shitty nobel prize

First of all the Nobel Prize is not a simple prize but a prize which give even money. And not few money. Then this is a moral incentive and an world recognition which will give at bitcoin a very and more good reputation, importance and spreading. So this prize will help bitcoin more than Satoshi Nakamoto. My questions is: are you a lover of bitcoin or only a simple user of it which care only for this price in the market?

The main benefit of Nobel Prize is the public recognition.

First I have answered to the post quoted by me. So my answer was structured to give him an answer.

Then I have added some other benefits. Wink

And made some other interpretations. With interest for the lovers of bitcoin. And that might make happy everyone of those. Including (it is supposed) even you (if you are here in bitcointalk mean that you are here because of bitcoin). Sorry for all this I have made but I think that when it is treated something must be treated fully and not partially. I understand that you discover something big and important and this had given to you joy and need to show to all the world this discovery (showing it to them through your above post) but I suggest that you think a little more and to try to discover all the things connected with something and not only one specific characteristic of it. I can assure you that your joy in the last case will be way more big than the previous one.

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Quote from: n2004al on October 15, 2015, 03:18:42 AM

Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on October 14, 2015, 08:35:45 AM

why need to win a Nobel Prize? its useless , i would rather winning ton of money than a shitty nobel prize

First of all the Nobel Prize is not a simple prize but a prize which give even money. And not few money. Then this is a moral incentive and an world recognition which will give at bitcoin a very and more good reputation, importance and spreading. So this prize will help bitcoin more than Satoshi Nakamoto. My questions is: are you a lover of bitcoin or only a simple user of it which care only for this price in the market?

The main benefit of Nobel Prize is the public recognition.

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Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on October 14, 2015, 08:35:45 AM

why need to win a Nobel Prize? its useless , i would rather winning ton of money than a shitty nobel prize

First of all the Nobel Prize is not a simple prize but a prize which give even money. And not few money. Then this is a moral incentive and an world recognition which will give at bitcoin a very and more good reputation, importance and spreading. So this prize will help bitcoin more than Satoshi Nakamoto. My questions is: are you a lover of bitcoin or only a simple user of it which care only for its price in the market?

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Quote from: Amph on October 14, 2015, 07:31:18 AM

he winned that prize when he mined and mantained the network with his 1M reward in bitcoin

now he is rich enough to buy the "nobel price" if he want

Besides he being a rich person,and unknow why would he or her care about something material since he made one thing virtual has more value then much material things?

I see nobel as a waste of money,the same way as grammy or others those shows should be used to help poop people instead who won bla bla bla this year was x person ,we recognize the actors ,singers works ,when we buy a cd,go to shows,most of them are rich people why to give the stars a thing to they show to sons and the family?Proud to had been someone?When we die we will go to the same place and without those material things.... but well is good to people recognize you had a better perfomance on x year or moment.

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Isn't it known as "The Nobel Peace Prize"?
Or is there one now, as mentioned earlier, for economics? If so then yes. Why not?
But don't expect him or her to show up and accept it. Tongue

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It's way too revolutionary and disruptive, too soon. Sooner or later, the deserved recognize in the historic contribution to mankind that happened in 2009 with Bitcoin, will be rewarded, but not now. Now is the time to treat this stuff as something shady and dangerous, like the internet in the early days.

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Satoshi deserves the Noble Prize. But he may not get it if he remains anonymous.

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Bitcoin is economics in the first place, ignoring that fact is to misunderstand Bitcoin and to diminish its role. The ideas of Satoshi are based on Hayek's work, who received the Nobel prize:
for the pioneering work in the theory of money and economic fluctuations and for their penetrating analysis of the interdependence of economic, social and institutional phenomena.

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Quote from: pereira4 on October 13, 2015, 12:44:40 PM

I don't want to sound like a conspiracy guy but im pretty sure the Nobel Prize has an agenda behind it just like everything that has that "officialism" halo around it, so I wouldn't count into Satoshi being given such a recognition by mainstream media, or at least not anytime soon. Maybe in decades. Right now im sure no one of the judges even know what Bitcoin is or understand it.

Indeed. It's not a judgement from universal powers beyond our comprehension, it's simply a committee of people sitting around with just as many grudges, misconceptions and pet subjects as anyone else.

It's going to take a long while before the rest of the world is capable of digesting what the whole thing means for them.

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why need to win a Nobel Prize? its useless , i would rather winning ton of money than a shitty nobel prize

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Quote from: BlackPanda on October 14, 2015, 07:46:52 AM

satoshi does not need to be recognized with the Nobel Prize. satoshi will always be recognized by the wider community, especially the users of bitcoin.

Had to agree with this.
And satoshi probably don't want to be noticed by everyone. Just like his work, the bitcoins, maybe he wants to remain anonymous to us and not be known with a nobel prize.

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satoshi does not need to be recognized with the Nobel Prize. satoshi will always be recognized by the wider community, especially the users of bitcoin.

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