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Topic: Why the constant push to have only the one blockchain? - page 2. (Read 2897 times)

legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
OK, not a sidechain. An independent blockchain.

How is an independent blockchain not an altcoin?

If it doesn't even have a "coin" then exactly how can it be an altcoin?
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
Talk is cheap, do it, and publish your altcoins and let ppl make their choice. Otherwise, this thread is another spam.

I have *no intention of making a coin at all* (so your challenge is rather pointless).


Oh really? Then go to Altcoin discussion then. You keep bringing this shit up everytime. Its borderline spamming now.

As for government not allowing one place for all asset. Speak for yourself, why did you move to China? you dont like living in a free world?

You dont have to convince ppl. You do what you feel is right to you. The more you talk nonsense here, the worse you sound. I met ppl like you since I joined Gentoo project in 2000s, all kind of shitty debates no real work. You dont like it, fork it and make your own.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
How is your sidechains proposal not an altcoin?

Because it is neither a "sidechain" nor an "altcoin".

Is that easy enough for you?

(it seems that you are expecting me to announce a new "coin")


OK, not a sidechain. An independent blockchain.

How is an independent blockchain not an altcoin?
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1086
Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
How is your sidechains proposal not an altcoin?

Because it is neither a "sidechain" nor an "altcoin".

Is that easy enough for you?

(it seems that you are expecting me to announce a new "coin")
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1086
Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
How can you have consensus if different software did things differently?

Exactly why I pointed out the problem with your post.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
Talk is cheap, do it, and publish your altcoins and let ppl make their choice. Otherwise, this thread is another spam.

I have *no intention of making a coin at all* (so your challenge is rather pointless).

How is your sidechains proposal not an altcoin?
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
No there are not (when it comes to the actual consensus)

How can you have consensus if different software did things differently?
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1086
Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
Talk is cheap, do it, and publish your altcoins and let ppl make their choice. Otherwise, this thread is another spam.

I have *no intention of making a coin at all* (so your challenge is rather pointless).
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1086
Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer

No there are not (when it comes to the actual consensus) - you need to read a bit more of Gavin and gmaxwell's posts on this to educate yourself a bit more.
hero member
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Merit: 500
This shit is getting ridiculous. Ok you want to another blockchain? head over to Alt and stay there. Why keep making threads in this section. Obviously you just want a complete separate altcoin then insert " trustless system to transfer between them" as some sort of holy grail.

Sad to see bitcoiners decided to go bear and still want to stay relevant by such "innovation"

Talk is cheap, do it, and publish your altcoins and let ppl make their choice. Otherwise, this thread is another spam.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
And NASA redundant servers run software different from one another?

They often have completely different programs to do the same thing just in case one implementation is found to be wrong.

Cool. So, you know there are different implementations for Bitcoin too, right?
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1086
Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
And NASA redundant servers run software different from one another?

They often have completely different programs to do the same thing just in case one implementation is found to be wrong.

It is also common for large businesses like banks and insurance companies to use more than one computer system (running a completely different OS) to look after their data.
hero member
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Merit: 500
Are 1690 nodes not enough redundancy for you?

They are *all running the safe software* so if there is a bug in that software it doesn't matter if there are 1M+ nodes.

Why can you not get this?

And NASA redundant servers run software different from one another?
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1086
Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
Also, that's the reason Bitcoin is still beta software: so that errors can happen without fucking up with the world. That's why there's not Bitcoin 1.0 yet.

There is never going to be "one single point of failure" for the entire world's Assets - put simply no government is ever going to allow it (and no large serious business is either).

Any decent software engineer knows "you can never fix all the bugs" so there never will be a Bitcoin 1.0 (in terms of something that is 100% reliable).
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1086
Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
Are 1690 nodes not enough redundancy for you?

They are *all running the safe software* so if there is a bug in that software it doesn't matter if there are 1M+ nodes.

Why can you not get this?
hero member
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As soon as possible being the point - it wasn't fixed instantly - if Bitcoin was holding the entire world's economy and that happened then the repercussions would be *enormous*.

Of course. It's not magic.

Also, that's the reason Bitcoin is still beta software: so that errors can happen without fucking up with the world. That's why there's not Bitcoin 1.0 yet.
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
I see room for several alt chains to be wildly successful, and (obviously) we don't need the constant flood of new ones.
hero member
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There is a reason why NASA have redundant systems - why do they bother if they could just create one perfect one?

Are 1690 nodes not enough redundancy for you?
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1086
Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
That didn't came out of luck, but out of people who want Bitcoin to succeed and so fixed it as soon as possible.

As soon as possible being the point - it wasn't fixed instantly - if Bitcoin was holding the entire world's economy and that happened then the repercussions would be *enormous*.

There is a reason why NASA have redundant systems - why do they bother if they could just create one perfect one?

There is a reason why "hedge funds" exist and there is a reason why "insurance" exists and why banks actually have their own servers rather than putting everything into the cloud.

It seems the reason for all these things is not clear to you at all (so there is little point continuing the discussion IMO).
hero member
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Seriously - we were extremely lucky that the fork didn't cause a lot more trouble.

That didn't came out of luck, but out of people who want Bitcoin to succeed and so fixed it as soon as possible.
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