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That is an interesting question, I really think that part of the answer to that is that people do not understand probabilities at all, many sites recommend martingale as a winning strategy either because they do not know better or just as away to try to incite people to gamble, but make no mistake martingale does not work, even if you have a 99.99% chance to win every single bet and a 0.01% chance of losing if you bet for long enough you are bound to lose and when you lose you will lose all of your capital.

I think it was a year ago when I become active in gambling that I participated in a discussion of a newbie exploring martingale it looks and sounds logical because you have to just double your bet every time you lose and you will eventually recover all your losses for the last ten rolls, it's very attractive for newbies but if you asked those who are very much into dice there are losing rolls that can go up to 20, I haven't reached that, my highest was 16th but with a house edge in favor of the gambling site, it will eventually catch you.

This has happened to me and in the end what happens is that you are out of money unless, you have more money to play with and add funds to the site and make it double. But once you cross 10-12 reds the amount to bet becomes higher and its difficult for many to take more chance beyond that unless you are rich to bare the further loss in case if still the red keep on coming for 15-20 rolls continuously. Better to set a limit by yourself that beyond x max red you will not bet it.

10-12 streaks are too much to bear, i start with $1 and it's still something to think about when you experienced the successive 5 loss, sometimes when this happens while playing with dice, i'll just try from roll under to roll over. sometimes it breaks the 6th.  i think i've read this strategy here as well.  but then you got to learn when to stop though. always remember that the odds are always in favor of the house.


That's already 16 USD as your base bet if you look at 5 streaks, it may not be too big but if you get into 12 streak max, that would be 2048 USD bet to win 1 USD, the question is, are you willing to take that risk?
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That is an interesting question, I really think that part of the answer to that is that people do not understand probabilities at all, many sites recommend martingale as a winning strategy either because they do not know better or just as away to try to incite people to gamble, but make no mistake martingale does not work, even if you have a 99.99% chance to win every single bet and a 0.01% chance of losing if you bet for long enough you are bound to lose and when you lose you will lose all of your capital.

I think it was a year ago when I become active in gambling that I participated in a discussion of a newbie exploring martingale it looks and sounds logical because you have to just double your bet every time you lose and you will eventually recover all your losses for the last ten rolls, it's very attractive for newbies but if you asked those who are very much into dice there are losing rolls that can go up to 20, I haven't reached that, my highest was 16th but with a house edge in favor of the gambling site, it will eventually catch you.

This has happened to me and in the end what happens is that you are out of money unless, you have more money to play with and add funds to the site and make it double. But once you cross 10-12 reds the amount to bet becomes higher and its difficult for many to take more chance beyond that unless you are rich to bare the further loss in case if still the red keep on coming for 15-20 rolls continuously. Better to set a limit by yourself that beyond x max red you will not bet it.

10-12 streaks are too much to bear, i start with $1 and it's still something to think about when you experienced the successive 5 loss, sometimes when this happens while playing with dice, i'll just try from roll under to roll over. sometimes it breaks the 6th.  i think i've read this strategy here as well.  but then you got to learn when to stop though. always remember that the odds are always in favor of the house.

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That is an interesting question, I really think that part of the answer to that is that people do not understand probabilities at all, many sites recommend martingale as a winning strategy either because they do not know better or just as away to try to incite people to gamble, but make no mistake martingale does not work, even if you have a 99.99% chance to win every single bet and a 0.01% chance of losing if you bet for long enough you are bound to lose and when you lose you will lose all of your capital.

I think it was a year ago when I become active in gambling that I participated in a discussion of a newbie exploring martingale it looks and sounds logical because you have to just double your bet every time you lose and you will eventually recover all your losses for the last ten rolls, it's very attractive for newbies but if you asked those who are very much into dice there are losing rolls that can go up to 20, I haven't reached that, my highest was 16th but with a house edge in favor of the gambling site, it will eventually catch you.

This has happened to me and in the end what happens is that you are out of money unless, you have more money to play with and add funds to the site and make it double. But once you cross 10-12 reds the amount to bet becomes higher and its difficult for many to take more chance beyond that unless you are rich to bare the further loss in case if still the red keep on coming for 15-20 rolls continuously. Better to set a limit by yourself that beyond x max red you will not bet it.

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That is an interesting question, I really think that part of the answer to that is that people do not understand probabilities at all, many sites recommend martingale as a winning strategy either because they do not know better or just as away to try to incite people to gamble, but make no mistake martingale does not work, even if you have a 99.99% chance to win every single bet and a 0.01% chance of losing if you bet for long enough you are bound to lose and when you lose you will lose all of your capital.

I think it was a year ago when I become active in gambling that I participated in a discussion of a newbie exploring martingale it looks and sounds logical because you have to just double your bet every time you lose and you will eventually recover all your losses for the last ten rolls, it's very attractive for newbies but if you asked those who are very much into dice there are losing rolls that can go up to 20, I haven't reached that, my highest was 16th but with a house edge in favor of the gambling site, it will eventually catch you.
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Once again Martingale Strategy try and the failure losing more than $600

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If this is 100% correct, then why it's still a very popular method, and why gamblers still want to experiment with this. We all use this method, right? Based on my personal experience, there are times that it's working, but most of the time it's not, so I must say you need good timing to make this method effective, otherwise, you'll easily lose your entire bankroll.

That is an interesting question, I really think that part of the answer to that is that people do not understand probabilities at all, many sites recommend martingale as a winning strategy either because they do not know better or just as away to try to incite people to gamble, but make no mistake martingale does not work, even if you have a 99.99% chance to win every single bet and a 0.01% chance of losing if you bet for long enough you are bound to lose and when you lose you will lose all of your capital.
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If this is 100% correct, then why it's still a very popular method, and why gamblers still want to experiment with this. We all use this method, right? Based on my personal experience, there are times that it's working, but most of the time it's not, so I must say you need good timing to make this method effective, otherwise, you'll easily lose your entire bankroll.

This method never works. The fact that you do not lose everything at once does not mean that this method "temporarily" works.
The easiest way to test such strategies is to wait for the deposit to double. If you regularly lose your deposit before doubling it using this strategy, then it does not work.  Believe me, doubling your deposit using Martingale is almost impossible.
That's the reality that it never works. We may see some temporary wins but if you will keep on going, you'll be ending up losing those wins too.
I agree. You'll lose your entire balance before you'd be seeing your money getting doubled through this strategy.
Getting doubled is already a challenge for martingale  strategy and this is the time that you should really know on when to take profits and call it a day but since gamblers are typically
greedy then you would expect that they would really be continuing until they do bust out their entire balance.Surprising thing? no its not.
Martingale doesnt suck if you do just know as a player or user on when to get or secure profits and when to move on and dont add up more when you do lost.
It is not surprising and also, there will be times that even how hard you keep on trying but if luck isn't with you. You are just going to be out of your balance and run out of funds.
That has happened a lot of times to those that have tried it.
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Getting doubled is already a challenge for martingale  strategy and this is the time that you should really know on when to take profits and call it a day but since gamblers are typically
greedy then you would expect that they would really be continuing until they do bust out their entire balance.Surprising thing? no its not.
Martingale doesnt suck if you do just know as a player or user on when to get or secure profits and when to move on and dont add up more when you do lost.

And what is your opinion on the correct exit from the game when using Martingale? 10%? 20% profit? And what if from the first bets you find yourself on a losing streak and, for example, your balance drops by -30% of the deposit? Depending on the size of the deposit, this is a frequent occurrence.
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If this is 100% correct, then why it's still a very popular method, and why gamblers still want to experiment with this. We all use this method, right? Based on my personal experience, there are times that it's working, but most of the time it's not, so I must say you need good timing to make this method effective, otherwise, you'll easily lose your entire bankroll.

This method never works. The fact that you do not lose everything at once does not mean that this method "temporarily" works.
The easiest way to test such strategies is to wait for the deposit to double. If you regularly lose your deposit before doubling it using this strategy, then it does not work.  Believe me, doubling your deposit using Martingale is almost impossible.
That's the reality that it never works. We may see some temporary wins but if you will keep on going, you'll be ending up losing those wins too.
I agree. You'll lose your entire balance before you'd be seeing your money getting doubled through this strategy.
Getting doubled is already a challenge for martingale  strategy and this is the time that you should really know on when to take profits and call it a day but since gamblers are typically
greedy then you would expect that they would really be continuing until they do bust out their entire balance.Surprising thing? no its not.
Martingale doesnt suck if you do just know as a player or user on when to get or secure profits and when to move on and dont add up more when you do lost.
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If this is 100% correct, then why it's still a very popular method, and why gamblers still want to experiment with this. We all use this method, right? Based on my personal experience, there are times that it's working, but most of the time it's not, so I must say you need good timing to make this method effective, otherwise, you'll easily lose your entire bankroll.

This method never works. The fact that you do not lose everything at once does not mean that this method "temporarily" works.
The easiest way to test such strategies is to wait for the deposit to double. If you regularly lose your deposit before doubling it using this strategy, then it does not work.  Believe me, doubling your deposit using Martingale is almost impossible.
That's the reality that it never works. We may see some temporary wins but if you will keep on going, you'll be ending up losing those wins too.
I agree. You'll lose your entire balance before you'd be seeing your money getting doubled through this strategy.
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Oh well, its  case to case in anyhow, martingale system though mostly lead gamblers to lose..

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If this is 100% correct, then why it's still a very popular method, and why gamblers still want to experiment with this. We all use this method, right? Based on my personal experience, there are times that it's working, but most of the time it's not, so I must say you need good timing to make this method effective, otherwise, you'll easily lose your entire bankroll.

This method never works. The fact that you do not lose everything at once does not mean that this method "temporarily" works.
The easiest way to test such strategies is to wait for the deposit to double. If you regularly lose your deposit before doubling it using this strategy, then it does not work.  Believe me, doubling your deposit using Martingale is almost impossible.
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Oh well, its  case to case in anyhow, martingale system though mostly lead gamblers to lose..

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If this is 100% correct, then why it's still a very popular method, and why gamblers still want to experiment with this. We all use this method, right? Based on my personal experience, there are times that it's working, but most of the time it's not, so I must say you need good timing to make this method effective, otherwise, you'll easily lose your entire bankroll.
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Oh well, its  case to case in anyhow, martingale system though mostly lead gamblers to lose..
That strategy is indeed a bit crazier than betting on the same numbers for the lottery for several months. I think we have to have a big bankroll to get big wins with this strategy. But has this martingale never been banned by any gambling site?
Dont know on why you said such thing, arent you a gambler? Havent you able to make use of martingale ever since? because it seems you dont have any idea about on what you are saying.

Martingale is never been banned because it was never been a profitable strategy specially if you are using it for long term then you would just basically blown out your account.
Martingale wont really mind of having a big bankroll because it wouldnt guaranteed to make big wins with this strategy just like on what you had said which is
totally on the opposite.
Correct, the only techniques that are frowned upon by the casino are those that can actually provide profits to the gambler, strategies like card counting, bonus abuse or arbitrage bets, martingale does not work and the casinos have several measures to make sure that it will never work, one example of this is the table limit, this way it does not matter how much money you have sooner or later you will hit that table limit and you will lose your money and you will have no chance to get it back.
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This will be a violation of the correct strategy and I think the result (losing all the money) will definitely not bring any pleasure  Grin
In principle, we can endlessly talk about how to act, but the problem is that a person is subject to emotions and he can even break the rules that he himself has established. There is hardly anything you can do about it.
There's none unless you really have that special kind of self-control where you can easily kills every emotions inside you and you are good in sticking with how you plan everything,

If such mentality exist, might a small percentage of gamblers or those experienced players who are not being exposed. Gamblers who choose to keep it themselves from the lime light and continue to prosper and enjoy this business.

I don't know if this is even possible theoretically. If you are doing something, then you are involved in the business and are interested in a positive result, you are emotionally involved. If this activity is gambling, then there is always an element of luck. Is it possible to be indifferent and not give vent to emotions in moments when luck sometimes helps you, and sometimes absolutely rudely destroys you? I doubt it.
Perhaps this is possible in arbitrage and similar techniques, but this is not gambling.

Oh well, its  case to case in anyhow, martingale system though mostly lead gamblers to lose..

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On the one hand, your advice looks reasonable, but if you think it over completely, then you will inevitably come to the conclusion that you should not even start playing  Grin
Probably the best strategy is to set the money that you are willing to lose and play in order to enjoy the game, not in order to win. If the process of the game itself does not give you pleasure, then it is better not even to start.
I guess so Grin
Set the money we should use and do not mind if the money loses will be a good idea. But remember that some gamblers can use the other money and deposit it in their account to continue playing even if they do that in the next few days.

This will be a violation of the correct strategy and I think the result (losing all the money) will definitely not bring any pleasure  Grin
In principle, we can endlessly talk about how to act, but the problem is that a person is subject to emotions and he can even break the rules that he himself has established. There is hardly anything you can do about it.
When it came to emotion, it will depend on how someone can manage the emotion and if he is a person who can control himself, he will control his emotion and not use more money and break the rules. He will realize that it is no use for him to do that instead will only give him losses. I am sure if he always controls the emotion, he can enjoy playing gambling without afraid of breaking the rules and his rules.
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Oh well, its  case to case in anyhow, martingale system though mostly lead gamblers to lose..
That strategy is indeed a bit crazier than betting on the same numbers for the lottery for several months. I think we have to have a big bankroll to get big wins with this strategy. But has this martingale never been banned by any gambling site?
Dont know on why you said such thing, arent you a gambler? Havent you able to make use of martingale ever since? because it seems you dont have any idea about on what you are saying.

Martingale is never been banned because it was never been a profitable strategy specially if you are using it for long term then you would just basically blown out your account.
Martingale wont really mind of having a big bankroll because it wouldnt guaranteed to make big wins with this strategy just like on what you had said which is
totally on the opposite.
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Oh well, its  case to case in anyhow, martingale system though mostly lead gamblers to lose..
That strategy is indeed a bit crazier than betting on the same numbers for the lottery for several months. I think we have to have a big bankroll to get big wins with this strategy. But has this martingale never been banned by any gambling site?
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This will be a violation of the correct strategy and I think the result (losing all the money) will definitely not bring any pleasure  Grin
In principle, we can endlessly talk about how to act, but the problem is that a person is subject to emotions and he can even break the rules that he himself has established. There is hardly anything you can do about it.


There's none unless you really have that special kind of self-control where you can easily kills every emotions inside you and you are good in sticking with how you plan everything,

If such mentality exist, might a small percentage of gamblers or those experienced players who are not being exposed. Gamblers who choose to keep it themselves from the lime light and continue to prosper and enjoy this business.

Oh well, its  case to case in anyhow, martingale system though mostly lead gamblers to lose..
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On the one hand, your advice looks reasonable, but if you think it over completely, then you will inevitably come to the conclusion that you should not even start playing  Grin
Probably the best strategy is to set the money that you are willing to lose and play in order to enjoy the game, not in order to win. If the process of the game itself does not give you pleasure, then it is better not even to start.
I guess so Grin
Set the money we should use and do not mind if the money loses will be a good idea. But remember that some gamblers can use the other money and deposit it in their account to continue playing even if they do that in the next few days.

This will be a violation of the correct strategy and I think the result (losing all the money) will definitely not bring any pleasure  Grin
In principle, we can endlessly talk about how to act, but the problem is that a person is subject to emotions and he can even break the rules that he himself has established. There is hardly anything you can do about it.
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Some gamblers can stop gambling if he wins or loses because they can control themselves better than the other gambler. If he can see how big his chance to win in gambling games, he will consider continuing or stopping gamble. Maybe he stops because he sees his strategy is not working for him, so he decides to break and modify his strategy and try again in the next few days. It is hard to become consistent winning in gambling because we know that will depend on our luck. And we know that luck will not always work beside us every day and every time.
One of the things why the Martingale strategy is so efficient in casinos is because it plays with the emotion of the players, because every player has very high self-esteem when they have a high balance, even with low balances it happens, but In the long term, this strategy is not profitable, many say it is.
If a gambler uses the martingale system and can win the game in the short term, he must stop as soon as possible before he loses because I guess the losses will be bigger than he won before. That is what a gambler must do to avoid a big loss.
Discipline in gambling activities what will save us always . the longer you gamble is the bigger chance of losing thats the reality and based on my own experience.
I admitted that sometimes, we lose the discipline just because we are too feel excited playing the game. Although I am tried to discipline myself, I still lose that for some time. But I keep trying.

Yes, a gambler will feel high self-esteem if they win, no matter how big their balance, but that can make them greedy if they do not stop gambling.
always Put your self as beginners , in which completely contented in small wins , in this way you will never become greedy and will keep your plans small time and never exceed to looking for tons of wins each gambling time.
I hope we can do that because as we got the win, that will turn us become like a pro and forget to control ourselves. That makes us become greedy and still playing gambling to chase the next win. But that will not always happen to us.

On the one hand, your advice looks reasonable, but if you think it over completely, then you will inevitably come to the conclusion that you should not even start playing  Grin
Probably the best strategy is to set the money that you are willing to lose and play in order to enjoy the game, not in order to win. If the process of the game itself does not give you pleasure, then it is better not even to start.
I guess so Grin
Set the money we should use and do not mind if the money loses will be a good idea. But remember that some gamblers can use the other money and deposit it in their account to continue playing even if they do that in the next few days.
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