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Topic: WHY THE SUDDEN DUMP WITHOUT ANY MAJOR NEWS? - page 2. (Read 704 times)

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Since the bull run in 2017, many major traders have been very active in the market, they have always been trying to manipulate it in their own benefits. Specially newbies are getting caught in their trap, as they are not well-experienced.

I wouldn't say manipulate but those speculators are trying to short bitcoin day by day that's why we didn't see a jump on the price. But seeing the price spike in the last 2 days? I wouldn't say that they can easily manipulate it as they used to be because a lot has been jumping on the bandwagon and doesn't want to miss the boat again.

As for those newbies being trap, I'm sure they have learned their experience in a hard way and and at a cost  as well.

Yeah we're not getting any sudden drastic dumps anymore aside from the usual corrections. It's possible that majority of the weak hands have been flushed out of the market already and those that were left are those who understood the movements better. But manipulation of course can't be discounted at any time. Even if we don't admit it, the market can and would probably be manipulated by some people with the means to do it.
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All things always happen on this market so expect the unexpected scenario even though there's no major news behind on it .because in fact no one can easily get some information especially when there's a dump in the market wherein because of being so unpredictable of the market and because also of some big players that suddenly manipulate the price without any sign or news before making a dump.
People should think ahead if they want to beat market. With all of this bigger players in the market, all we could do is to ride with them since we can't beat them with our money that seems to be like a dust to them.

When things happens without any major news, that just means that it is a market manipulation. Which means that you guys are a victim of a bull trap that happen to ride on their trap. You all know whales could always make a trap if they they want to.
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Since the bull run in 2017, many major traders have been very active in the market, they have always been trying to manipulate it in their own benefits. Specially newbies are getting caught in their trap, as they are not well-experienced.

I wouldn't say manipulate but those speculators are trying to short bitcoin day by day that's why we didn't see a jump on the price. But seeing the price spike in the last 2 days? I wouldn't say that they can easily manipulate it as they used to be because a lot has been jumping on the bandwagon and doesn't want to miss the boat again.

As for those newbies being trap, I'm sure they have learned their experience in a hard way and and at a cost  as well.
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All things always happen on this market so expect the unexpected scenario even though there's no major news behind on it .because in fact no one can easily get some information especially when there's a dump in the market wherein because of being so unpredictable of the market and because also of some big players that suddenly manipulate the price without any sign or news before making a dump.
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In my own point of view, the sudden dump or pump of the cryptos are caused by the demand and adoption of the players or the traders, while there are more people buying, the price will pump and when the selling is more than buying, sudden pump will happen, well, that was just my thoughts.
we don't ask about the definition, and the OP also asks about dumps instead of pumps. although now what happens in the market is pump.
a dump some time ago, started in early 2018, and continued to decline due to weakening market confidence
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Since the bull run in 2017, many major traders have been very active in the market, they have always been trying to manipulate it in their own benefits. Specially newbies are getting caught in their trap, as they are not well-experienced.
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There is nothing you can do about it maybe the one in power to do that change his or her mind and sold all his or her money before it losses a lot more while it is in the market. The aggression of FOMO is slowly reduced by the time Bitcoin change its pace not only reducing its price as well as the investors that are interested in it began to fear it.
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as it will surely happen, the disposal of assets by the great pope will be no news because I think some great popes do not want to be associated with media news, maybe on average media news contains FUD news, I personally do not like to see and read news like that, and think you're right the big whales can play in the crypto market.
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Over the past few days, there  was a  significant rise in most of the assets on the crypto market including  the altcoins. For instance the value of Ethereum  also rose alongside bitcoin. It has become rather strange to me that there has been a sudden fall also, I don't know if some major traders or whales are playing mind games with amateur traders. Most bullish and bearish runs comes with a major news but this case was different.
Welcome to the market bro where everything is possible, that's why it's called the free market in the first place.

I believe that the rise and the dump is done by some whales who are looking for good methods to make lots of profit within a short period of time. They go into the market buying a lot of coins at a particular price, when the price exceed that of which they bought the coin, they make a dump immediately and take out profit.
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February 27, 2019, 10:14:42 AM
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In my own point of view, the sudden dump or pump of the cryptos are caused by the demand and adoption of the players or the traders, while there are more people buying, the price will pump and when the selling is more than buying, sudden pump will happen, well, that was just my thoughts.
usually a dump will occur when there is bad news and chances are you just don't know the bad news like what makes traders panic, making the price a dump. because if there is no bad news a coin price will not be a dump.
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February 27, 2019, 09:24:50 AM
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Is it really that large for it to be called a pump?
I dont think so.
No need for any news about it. It is just a fluctuating market, it happens.

Why look for a reason if you are in an industry where it can move freely without anyone knowing it. Traders can take over or an investor could sell anytime or buy. Thats it. All the reason to it.
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February 27, 2019, 05:26:47 AM
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In my own point of view, the sudden dump or pump of the cryptos are caused by the demand and adoption of the players or the traders, while there are more people buying, the price will pump and when the selling is more than buying, sudden pump will happen, well, that was just my thoughts.
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February 27, 2019, 05:23:30 AM
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Over the past few days, there  was a  significant rise in most of the assets on the crypto market including  the altcoins. For instance the value of Ethereum  also rose alongside bitcoin. It has become rather strange to me that there has been a sudden fall also, I don't know if some major traders or whales are playing mind games with amateur traders. Most bullish and bearish runs comes with a major news but this case was different.

I hope you know that this pattern emerges at the mid-2018 if I'm not mistaken. Just look at the $6000-$6500 range on bitcoin, we have been in this price levels for a long time, and when we're about to take off and make a good run, suddenly the price goes down without any signs or news, which lead me to believed that many speculators have been doing lots of day trading and using bots. Why bots? It's easy, you just have to set up everything and then just BOOM, billions wipe out in matter of minutes. The good thing though is that the price didn't go down to where it is prior to the rally, which is $3600.
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February 27, 2019, 03:14:48 AM
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Technically it was a false breakout; attempt to break the $ 4100 ($ 4200 Bitfinex) but did not hold up, and a return below $ 4100 triggered stop loss cascade generating panic. No news has triggered this movement, very simple TA

This is likely the most accurate. I wouldn't call it a false breakout or bull trap like I'm seeing some channels say now, rather a failed breakout attempt. A few things I found strange though, the volumes were better than expected, and it held out for longer than 24 hours, but I think there was just too much TP after 4100 that caused the buyer strength to fade out. The tumble also wasn't as bad as I was expecting too, so there's that.
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February 27, 2019, 03:14:02 AM
#57
Most bullish and bearish runs comes with a major news but this case was different.

Somehow the news of Nasdaq listing (for Bitcoin and Ethereum) went almost unnoticed. When it was announced Bitcoin started to rise. In the weekend before coming live, Bitcin has fallen.
Maybe the speculators / traders were hoping that this listing gives more traction? Or just used the news for a pump and dump? I don't know. But there were news involved in this equation.
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February 27, 2019, 03:04:38 AM
#56
It's just speculators again, booking their profits at $4200. They just waited for the perfect time to make money, probably in $4k, but people are still buying and FOMO'ing.

And when everyone thought that we're ready for a bull run, they immediately sell and probably going back to the market when the price is low, maybe @3600 or something and then rinse and repeat.
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February 27, 2019, 02:51:57 AM
#55
I think is just a panic thing or people where just waiting for opportunity as this to step out of the market and make some decent money from their assets either way lets the market bounce back as the step back was not that hurting at all
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February 27, 2019, 02:34:25 AM
#54
It proves that cryptocurrency is not depending on news, maybe sometimes but it matters on how big the news is maybe the game of accumulation is starting again pump a little and then dump so that they could profit more filling their bags before taking off. Its a nature of a market, volatile and unpredictable
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THe big boys are playing with us as they please. The crypto market is tiny and as a results it's easier for some early adopters and affluent individuals to influence the market and drive the price up and down.
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February 27, 2019, 02:24:02 AM
#53
Whales controlled the crypto market,  and they can do anything what they want.  They possible to pump and dump this crypto market.  We can only minimize the risk by use management of risk and money because the price action of crypto will be very difficult to predict and possible to dumped just in short times. 
Even the whales controlled the crypto market, they cannot move the price every day. But I don't think that all of the whales want to dump the market because I believe that some of them want to stabilize the market and they will lift the price soon. If the market is a dump now, I am sure that it will get a pump soon because no one wants to get lose the money and I am sure that they want to make a profit from the market. Just be patient for a while and meantime, you can use the opportunity to buy a lot of coins at a low price.
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February 26, 2019, 07:48:08 PM
#52
Whales controlled the crypto market,  and they can do anything what they want.  They possible to pump and dump this crypto market.  We can only minimize the risk by use management of risk and money because the price action of crypto will be very difficult to predict and possible to dumped just in short times. 
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