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legendary
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I don’t consider those who offered copy/pasted ICOs as being talented. I’m talking about people who actually built innovative things from the ground up. One good example of talent that has moved on would be the developer behind directbet.eu, another would be Casascius.
To be honest, I didn't heard of these two particular projects, maybe they were just trying to bring innovative ideas into this wild cryptocurrency space, I can't judge and not going to. From scambuster's point of view, this is exception that proves the rule, most crypto projects are scam projects, the main goal of which to receive money and disappear. These scammers are competing with each other - who will be the first to create innovative and working idea - how to decieve newbies in the most efficient way. We have seen many of such ideas and many methods that they used, but those who just came haven't seen it yet, so goal is to show who are really talented and who are scamming.
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chasing away talent
Those talents made millions by scamming newbies during ICO era. No one was chasing away them. I don’t consider those who offered copy/pasted ICOs as being talented. I’m talking about people who actually built innovative things from the ground up. One good example of talent that has moved on would be the developer behind directbet.eu, another would be Casascius.
legendary
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My question is simple:
Are these newbies so dumb that they do not understand what scam can do to them? or are we so dumb to believe that we have no what to post and what will benefit the newbie???
First of all, posts about crypto scams are not against the forum rules. However, if you think that some post is low value, junk, not deserve to exist, just report it to moderator. If you don't like someones posts just press ignore button, if you consider crypto scam topic useless, just press ignore button again, but don't try to censor anyone here. Freedom of speech, you know. Newbies aren't dumb, they are unexperienced. There's a big difference. Dumb people are those ones who consider themselves too smart and think they know everything. chasing away talent
Those talents made millions by scamming newbies during ICO era. No one was chasing away them.
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A lot of people here want to feel important, but are unable to create anything of value, so they act as forum police pointing out scams that nobody would ever fall for as a way to pretend they are making a difference in the community. The sad part is that in their desperation to feel important they end up harassing everyone who tries to build anything here, chasing away talent and leaving this place as a cesspool of scammers and trolls endlessly fighting using multiple alt accounts to make posts advertising shady money laundering coin mixers and illegal gambling operations in their signatures to make a few bucks. It’s been one of the great disappointments in my life watching what this forum has devolved into while Nero watches Rome burn.
You are absolutely correct @OgNasty, there has been so many instances where things have gone wrong due to social policing by members in this forum. I cannot pin point as I fear I will lose everything that I worked for. My question is simple: Are these newbies so dumb that they do not understand what scam can do to them? or are we so dumb to believe that we have no what to post and what will benefit the newbie???
legendary
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...Why will a begginer always want to read about a scam and not the benefits he can achieve being here?...
Because the main task of Newbies is not to lose your money when you first get acquainted with cryptocurrency. In fact, everyone wants to get a profit without putting much effort and knowledge. This is why offers a large selection of scams that promise 100% profit in 24 hours. If you learn not to lose your money, then it will be easier for you to earn it.
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A lot of people here want to feel important, but are unable to create anything of value, so they act as forum police pointing out scams that nobody would ever fall for as a way to pretend they are making a difference in the community. The sad part is that in their desperation to feel important they end up harassing everyone who tries to build anything here, chasing away talent and leaving this place as a cesspool of scammers and trolls endlessly fighting using multiple alt accounts to make posts advertising shady money laundering coin mixers and illegal gambling operations in their signatures to make a few bucks. It’s been one of the great disappointments in my life watching what this forum has devolved into while Nero watches Rome burn.
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Why will a beginner always want to read about a scam and not the benefits he can achieve being here?
Give the beginners and newbies the benefit of the doubt. They have completely no knowledge about it so it's a good initiative by them if they are searching through the forum and reading things relatively to scams. Some or many of them just want to search for specific things and don't want to stay so they're all just for the information, comes by and goes by.
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If it's about specific scam project then it should be posted in the scam section but if it is about tutorial guide about scamming then it's ok to post it here, in scam section there is a format here, you need to have subject to make your thread valid, or it will just be deleted.
hero member
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Well, I suppose it's because threads about scams (how to avoid them and the like) are easy ways to be acknowledged for one's post to become creative/useful. Plus, I think they think of it as a guaranteed way to earn merit (Just saying it's a way, not that all newbies are posting for merit). My opinion of it would be just to avoid it if you think it's irritating or something, let them post what they want since it's basically still useful oneway or another. And each post about how to avoid crypto scams could provide new information, after all, so they're basically free to do as such. And it's not like they just copy and pasted it from someone, but I do agree about what @mk4 said, a pinned thread that could get regularly updated about scams.
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I understand your point, if the topic is a general advice not targetting specific project or platform, I guess threads like that should be merged but if it is about a specific project it should be posted on scam accusation instead. If you find one you can freely report it to moderator. But if the thread is about something like, a new technique of scammers nowadays I guess that is really helpful for us newbies to be informed, I still consider myself a newbie.  I am not against scam related topics I am against portraying the newbies that cryptocurrency is all about scams.
You said it yourself, "are Newbies a bunch of retards that do not understand Scams?" for sure they understand, newbies are curious individuals and for sure they will know the truth about cryptocurrency and its importance, there are just people creating topics without searching first if it already exist.
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The first is, they are newbies, where even beginners do sometimes really not know anything. Or they are people who are easily influenced without wanting to analyze it first about the truth. Not everyone understands about the crypto world, not everyone wants to learn from the beginning related to the crypto world. And there are some people who just follow the hype, the influence of others, and the lure that is extraordinary to be rich, so they are interested.
Not only newbies, but people who have long been in the crypto world are still the target and victims of scams.
That is why we are here to help each other, at least announcing and allowing them aware of the scams. It is not really disturbing to help each other, isn't it? We are sharing the information that can help the members to avoid scams.
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Unfortunately, matters related to deception are not present here. They are everywhere, in every location, and in every forum that contains beginners. These people are new to the field they enter in and they have no experience. That is why fraudsters exploit them using many forms of fraud, the most important way. The temptation to speak and persuade as the impostor persuades the novice that he will pay him large sums in exchange for clicking on a specific link or downloading a specific application.
hero member
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Because most of the times, beginners are the victims of such scams. Since they are noob and have no idea about this environment, they get tricked in such scam method. That's why I too think such threads should be posted on this board to make awareness among all the people. We do not have any other topic to share or talk about in this thread.
I believe you are talking about board. Thread and topic are the same thing while the board is different. Hey! @Pffrt, Thanks for making me understand the difference between a Thread and a Board. I also feel that you made my day after a typo mistake. You are a STAR @Pffrt!!!
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Are Newbies a bunch of retards that do not understand Scams? OR We do not have any other topic to share or talk about in this thread. Scammers are everywhere, infact Fiat related Scams are more prominent than Crypto Scams. Why are we intentionally talking about Crypto Scam always in this thread, when we know it just a small fish in a big pond of Scams. Those who regularly create topics in this thread, try to create topics which are Guides or tutorial related to cryptocurrencies or about this platform. There are other threads that are regularly updating about scams and how to avoid them. I am not against scam related topics I am against portraying the newbies that cryptocurrency is all about scams. The same topic written differently won't make any difference. EDITMy question to all of you after reading your replies: - Why will a begginer always want to read about a scam and not the benefits he can achieve being here?
- Did anyone here create a topic about benefits of cryptocurrency? or we assumed they know about it?
- We assumed they do not know about Scams or we are creating topics for Merits?
I think members here are more concerned about scams than the benefits. I also believe this place forum needs to understand that we are the face of a community that promotes benefits an not scams. We need to have seperate board only to discuss about scams in crypto space. I also believe that merits are the main reason why members are creating more topics which are almost same on scams.
legendary
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This has been happened 6 months ago since I start create this topic in Meta to find a solution Expose scam site in Beginner & Help board?And yeah, the answer is "All related scam project" should be posted in Scam accusations, you can use report to moderator and let the moderator move it. If the thread mainly discuss about how to avoid scams, it can be posted on Scam accusations or Beginner & Help (if you want). Not only on this section I have seen some sections where there are scam reports and some of them are not created by newbies we should all be aware that if we want to get attention from what we are posting it should be posted in the right section because members expect to see what they want to see on their section of interest.
sr. member
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Because most of the times, beginners are the victims of such scams. Since they are noob and have no idea about this environment, they get tricked in such scam method. That's why I too think such threads should be posted on this board to make awareness among all the people. We do not have any other topic to share or talk about in this thread.
I believe you are talking about board. Thread and topic are the same thing while board is different.
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