I trust that the real satoshi is Nakamoto.
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Topic: Why we should never trust anyone for being the real Satoshi. - page 3. (Read 1103 times)
It's plain and simple, sign the wallet address of the first transaction in the genesis block and show it to the public.
That will prove you control those keys, nothing else. It is of course extremely compelling but not definitive. I'm not sure anything is when someone's entire story has taken place via channels that can be passed on to someone else.
Right, https://nakamotoinstitute.org/static/satoshinakamoto.asc
And a Satoshi turning up now and attracting a following would be so out of character from everything that has gone before that he'd attract just as much suspicion as our favourite tubby Australian.
He opted to remain out of the limelight for many years as to not attract any attention as compare to the Fake Satoshi who wants everyone's eye and concoct a lot of contradicting stories that you really know he is trying hard to fit and become Satoshi himself.
It's plain and simple, sign the wallet address of the first transaction in the genesis block and show it to the public.
That will prove you control those keys, nothing else. It is of course extremely compelling but not definitive. I'm not sure anything is when someone's entire story has taken place via channels that can be passed on to someone else.
And a Satoshi turning up now and attracting a following would be so out of character from everything that has gone before that he'd attract just as much suspicion as our favourite tubby Australian.
OP, or we should be ready in slowly disowning Satoshi. Bitcoin has moved on, it SHOULD move on. Plus with the expanded technical understanding of the network, and blockchain scaling, I believe Satoshi might admit that using the term "peer to peer cash" in the white paper might be a mistake. It colored our perception.
If the real Satoshi is wise he keeps a low profile and leave the spotlight to Wright. We already know that he is just a scam artist but he takes away the attention of the real one thus protecting him in a way. What do you think would the FED, the IRS and a boatload of lawyers do with the real Satoshi if he goes public? They will roast him till there is no tomorrow. All those old fashioned banking folks would unleash their rage on him, definately not a pleasant thought. I still think the late Dave Kleiman was the main Satoshi and some others like Wright and Hal Finney, Nick Szabo and the other boys were the lackeys.
It makes no sense that the real Satoshi will remain idle when there are many players in the market claiming to be Satoshi, he would have already signed a message from the genesis block and stop and end to this speculation that is hurting the bitcoin community. The surprise here is that you knew that Wright is a scam artist and you still think that he has something to do with bitcoin in the initial stages which is really weird.@OP If anyone could sign the known addresses of Satoshi then you could trust him to be Satoshi.
I see your point but I disagree. Satoshi putting out a message would just mean that he is still alive and would motivate people, and regulatory folks, even more to search for him. The damage, if you really want to call it that, of people speculating of a real Satoshi in comparison to class action law suits against its inventor are 1:100000. Speculating is something that has no permanent effect on the price, a law suit and legal actions would have.
As for my idea about Wright being involved, I think he really was but I also think he is not the inventor he claims to be.
Let's be realistic. SATOSHI NAKAMOTO remains himself/themselves to be anonymous. I believe there is a good reason behind why he wanted to stayed as a secret identity.
But what if the REAL Satoshi came up and claimed that he is the real one? Providing all the evidences? Can't we still trust him? If ever one day he comes out, it is for the better progress of this blockchain technology he created.
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TRUSTING SOMEONE TO BE SATOSHI COULD MEAN THE END OF BTC AS WE KNOW IT. If someone ever proves to be the real Satoshi with real evidence, it could prove to be a big danger for Bitcoin's future.
But what if the REAL Satoshi came up and claimed that he is the real one? Providing all the evidences? Can't we still trust him? If ever one day he comes out, it is for the better progress of this blockchain technology he created.
So you say that if the real Satoshi Nakamoto comes out of the shadows(if he's still alive),this would put Bitcoin in great danger.Why and how?Bitcoin Core is existing without Satoshi Nakamoto for so long.
Do you think that the real Satoshi will try to destroy Bitcoin Core?I don't think so.
Trusting someone to be the real Satoshi without any good evidence is just pure stupidity.
Having trust in this or that person that has or had any role in the creation of Bitcoin is kinda pointless.
We should trust the idea and concept behind Bitcoin Core/blockchain,not Satoshi or some of the fake imposters of Satoshi.
Do you think that the real Satoshi will try to destroy Bitcoin Core?I don't think so.
Trusting someone to be the real Satoshi without any good evidence is just pure stupidity.
Having trust in this or that person that has or had any role in the creation of Bitcoin is kinda pointless.
We should trust the idea and concept behind Bitcoin Core/blockchain,not Satoshi or some of the fake imposters of Satoshi.
Let me quote what I always say with regards to the real satoshi topic.
It will always serve as an entertainment for everyone because of too much conspiracies involved to the real identity of satoshi. The only thing we can for now is to educate ourselves rather than making spotflight to a person called "faketoshi" who doesn't even contribute for the betterment of the bitcoin community. Though, at least, he's making a free advertisement for bitcoin itself.
There are lots of rumors and conspiracy who Satoshi really is but none of the proves their claim. Talking about the real identity of satoshi is truly a great entertainment but it doesn't mean that we need to force ourselves in disclosing an identity of a person who doesn't even want a spotlight 
.
In fact, satoshi can be an alien, man, woman, a company or a non-binary. Again, it is entertaining but it will never shed some light.
More info here:
[1] Who is Satoshi Nakamoto ? Suspects, frauds and conspiracies on bitcointalk
.In fact, satoshi can be an alien, man, woman, a company or a non-binary. Again, it is entertaining but it will never shed some light.
More info here:
[1] Who is Satoshi Nakamoto ? Suspects, frauds and conspiracies on bitcointalk
It will always serve as an entertainment for everyone because of too much conspiracies involved to the real identity of satoshi. The only thing we can for now is to educate ourselves rather than making spotflight to a person called "faketoshi" who doesn't even contribute for the betterment of the bitcoin community. Though, at least, he's making a free advertisement for bitcoin itself.
If someone can not prove he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto, why should we trust that person? Without proving to the public, we can consider that he will try to scam many people, especially new people who don't have more information about who is Satoshi. I only think that after Satoshi announcing about blockchain technology and bitcoin, he got an invite to join in another big project, so he decides to keep anonymous and hide his identity to the public, and let them have questions about who is he.
It's plain and simple, sign the wallet address of the first transaction in the genesis block and show it to the public. Though proving that you are the real satoshi will not incur any help, it will just make bitcoin's market in a complicated situation as we know, it is satoshi's decision to remain anonymous, and we should respect that decision for good.
This personality Craig Wright has just proven himself as an impostor and just created hype for his personal interests in bitcoin and cryptocurrency. It doesn't really benefit us, thus, we just waste time reading news about him over time.
If someone can not prove he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto, why should we trust that person? Without proving to the public, we can consider that he will try to scam many people, especially new people who don't have more information about who is Satoshi. I only think that after Satoshi announcing about blockchain technology and bitcoin, he got an invite to join in another big project, so he decides to keep anonymous and hide his identity to the public, and let them have questions about who is he.
Can anyone even pose as Satoshi at this point in time? A decade is more than enough for records to be passed down, to be accessed by others, and the like. Proof of Satoshi may even be on the hands of multiple people now, whether it be an intentional release by Satoshi himself or not. Additionally, even if the real Satoshi comes out, not much could be done to the system of Bitcoin. It's been set there and then when it was created, there isn't much difference in what would happen whether Satoshi reveals himself alive, or reveals himself when he dies. Although there is a difference if the one that reveals himself is a faketoshi like CSW, which as you said, brought about a no small amount of negative raves to BTC.
For security and safety, Satoshi keeps being anonymous, so if someone calls him real Satoshi does not believe him because there would be no people who would let himself. or herself was known by many people because it is such a dangerous activity. There would be many people who will be interested in you and try to attack you because they know that you are so powerful a person and have so much money. Satoshi is so great, wise, and rich person because he made the successful cryptocurrency which is the bitcoin so he chose to be anonymous to protect himself and his family as well.
Claiming satoshi's identity is useless, you need to prove a lot of things and probably there's no one like him. He is unique and wise enough when it comes to this kind of activities that involves money. Maybe, Satoshi wants to leave a mark and mystery to us that's why he don't want to become known or famous about his creation.
Bitcoin is now popular and the most outstanding cryptocurrency among all other cryptocurrency, and Satoshi is really successful on making a digital currency that is useful for its users. No one can claim Satoshi's identity, he is one of a kind and if you claim it, probably, your life will become at risk.
You are right that we should not believe them at all They usually spread these false rumors Satoshi Nakamoto made bitcoin he is there but no one knows his exact information. If he had given his identity long ago he would not have kept the information secret for so long Those who want to identify themselves as Satoshi should stay away from these people They are always doing harm and inventing new scams These should be avoided for your own protection.
For security and safety, Satoshi keeps being anonymous, so if someone calls him real Satoshi does not believe him because there would be no people who would let himself. or herself was known by many people because it is such a dangerous activity. There would be many people who will be interested in you and try to attack you because they know that you are so powerful a person and have so much money. Satoshi is so great, wise, and rich person because he made the successful cryptocurrency which is the bitcoin so he chose to be anonymous to protect himself and his family as well.
Actually like trusting something or someone when it is no longer necessary, the cards are drawn, the game has already started, it only remains to play it as best as possible, under the rules and trust of a consensus of users.
Understand me, SN's identity is important to the community! , for bitcoin! or for governments! Which of these three elements is really interested in knowing who is SN?
Anyway, it is worth trusting or not, today, tomorrow or when it appears (if it happens) if bitcoin already has the confidence it needed and is represented in 17 million bitcoin circulating at a price of almost $ 10,000*.
SN and its million BTC are more a well-thought-out strategy than what bitcoin represents, confidence in the security of funds and anonymity, the main standards that led today's bitcoin to have the value of almost $ 10,000. That in a way represents trust in bitcoin more than an individual.
SN: Satoshi Nakamoto.
Understand me, SN's identity is important to the community! , for bitcoin! or for governments! Which of these three elements is really interested in knowing who is SN?
Anyway, it is worth trusting or not, today, tomorrow or when it appears (if it happens) if bitcoin already has the confidence it needed and is represented in 17 million bitcoin circulating at a price of almost $ 10,000*.
SN and its million BTC are more a well-thought-out strategy than what bitcoin represents, confidence in the security of funds and anonymity, the main standards that led today's bitcoin to have the value of almost $ 10,000. That in a way represents trust in bitcoin more than an individual.
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SN: Satoshi Nakamoto.
If the real Satoshi is wise he keeps a low profile and leave the spotlight to Wright. We already know that he is just a scam artist but he takes away the attention of the real one thus protecting him in a way. What do you think would the FED, the IRS and a boatload of lawyers do with the real Satoshi if he goes public? They will roast him till there is no tomorrow. All those old fashioned banking folks would unleash their rage on him, definately not a pleasant thought. I still think the late Dave Kleiman was the main Satoshi and some others like Wright and Hal Finney, Nick Szabo and the other boys were the lackeys.
It makes no sense that the real Satoshi will remain idle when there are many players in the market claiming to be Satoshi, he would have already signed a message from the genesis block and stop and end to this speculation that is hurting the bitcoin community. The surprise here is that you knew that Wright is a scam artist and you still think that he has something to do with bitcoin in the initial stages which is really weird.@OP If anyone could sign the known addresses of Satoshi then you could trust him to be Satoshi.
If the real Satoshi is wise he keeps a low profile and leave the spotlight to Wright. We already know that he is just a scam artist but he takes away the attention of the real one thus protecting him in a way. What do you think would the FED, the IRS and a boatload of lawyers do with the real Satoshi if he goes public? They will roast him till there is no tomorrow. All those old fashioned banking folks would unleash their rage on him, definately not a pleasant thought. I still think the late Dave Kleiman was the main Satoshi and some others like Wright and Hal Finney, Nick Szabo and the other boys were the lackeys.
Trusting someone for being the real Satoshi might mean unknowingly trusting an entity who might want to destroy what the initial project meant to turn Bitcoin into and allowing a big change that may end up to be the death of Bitcoin as we know it.
Even you trust someone as a real satoshi which he isn't then it wouldn't make any difference. Perhaps some people believe Craig Steven Wright is satoshi but we can't see any effect on bitcoin since this is a false claim. I am sure bitcoin wouldn't ended up this way with false claim. But if we found real satoshi with sign from his address then likely we will encounter huge impact on bitcoin either positive or negative. But still I can't believe it will ended up. Perhaps he is more brilliant than us who have created bitcoin and that's why he know what would happen. I believe he will revealed himself on perfect time. 
Trusting someone for being the real Satoshi might mean unknowingly allowing a big change that may end up to be the death of Bitcoin as we know it.
Or if the real Satoshi comes to the surface and proves that he is really the one, then a possibility of Bitcoin growth can be observed. We all know, in each circumstance there is always a possible two route. One that OP believes may lead to Bitcoin death or the opposite which can possibly lead to Bitcoin thriving because there will be this go-to guy whenever a conflict in development occurs. Thus making it possible for the development of Bitcoin network to be faster. Aside from that, it will also create an explosion in terms of advertisement making Bitcoin as talk of the town during the appearance of its true creator. This is just an assumption and may or may not happen but I am positive that it will bring a positive impact if ever the real Satoshi comes out.
Trusting someone for being the real Satoshi might mean unknowingly allowing a big change that may end up to be the death of Bitcoin as we know it.
Not necessarily. Trusting CSW, for example, to be the real Satoshi does not make any change at all. Neither does trusting Dorian Nakamoto to be the real Satoshi cause the death of Bitcoin. Neither does trusting anybody else allow a big change in the Bitcoin universe.
That big change will only take place if the real Satoshi shows any sign of activity.
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