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Topic: Why you should lend to this newbie (Read 1654 times)

copper member
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September 26, 2015, 01:51:58 AM
#28
@BiPolarBob I see you straight on the road to get second -ve , for scammer education -use  fake ID Grin

I never said use it. I just said fake ID has value. Ask anyone who had to pay for fake ID so they could get into the bar.  Grin
I wouldn't do this personally, and I think you will get scammed if you do. A borrower showing their (possibly fake) ID is going to cause them to lose essentially zero value themselves, and will cause you to receive essentially zero value if/when they default.
sr. member
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September 26, 2015, 01:50:12 AM
#27
trusting on newbie and lending him btc even with a collateral is risking ur btcs....so take wise decisions whenever it comes to lending thing...Smiley
newbie
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September 26, 2015, 01:41:41 AM
#26
With the intel he left (mail and name in OP), it likely seems to be this guy here: https://loanbase.com/user/index/id/19041/kingsoda505
Nobody should give him loan because it likely to be a scammer.

Can you give us the "intel" that you mentioned? Also, you might want to create a thread in the Scam Accusations section and then link it in here.

I said it on my post, I checked his mail address on his profile and google it. The, I got the web page linked and check the twitter in his profile. Owner of the twitter account have the same name he mentionned in his OP. I'm nearly sure it is the same person.
No need to open a topic in the scam accusations section, don't think every people who tried to scam on the lending section have their thread there Smiley

No please notify the cyberpolice
 
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September 25, 2015, 06:01:44 PM
#25
With the intel he left (mail and name in OP), it likely seems to be this guy here: https://loanbase.com/user/index/id/19041/kingsoda505
Nobody should give him loan because it likely to be a scammer.

Can you give us the "intel" that you mentioned? Also, you might want to create a thread in the Scam Accusations section and then link it in here.

I said it on my post, I checked his mail address on his profile and google it. The, I got the web page linked and check the twitter in his profile. Owner of the twitter account have the same name he mentionned in his OP. I'm nearly sure it is the same person.
No need to open a topic in the scam accusations section, don't think every people who tried to scam on the lending section have their thread there Smiley
legendary
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September 25, 2015, 05:56:54 PM
#24
@BiPolarBob I see you straight on the road to get second -ve , for scammer education -use  fake ID Grin

I never said use it. I just said fake ID has value. Ask anyone who had to pay for fake ID so they could get into the bar.  Grin
I realize what you want say and I never say that you use it, but somebody  can understand how useful advice.
sr. member
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September 25, 2015, 05:51:32 PM
#23
@BiPolarBob I see you straight on the road to get second -ve , for scammer education -use  fake ID Grin

I never said use it. I just said fake ID has value. Ask anyone who had to pay for fake ID so they could get into the bar.  Grin
legendary
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September 25, 2015, 05:48:45 PM
#22
@BiPolarBob I see you straight on the road to get second -ve , for scammer education -use  fake ID Grin
legendary
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September 25, 2015, 05:42:02 PM
#21
With the intel he left (mail and name in OP), it likely seems to be this guy here: https://loanbase.com/user/index/id/19041/kingsoda505
Nobody should give him loan because it likely to be a scammer.

Can you give us the "intel" that you mentioned? Also, you might want to create a thread in the Scam Accusations section and then link it in here.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
September 25, 2015, 05:36:40 PM
#20
With the intel he left (mail and name in OP), it likely seems to be this guy here: https://loanbase.com/user/index/id/19041/kingsoda505
Nobody should give him loan because it likely to be a scammer.
sr. member
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September 25, 2015, 05:31:20 PM
#19
I think a good quality ID set is worth more than .02BTC because it can be used for profitable illicit activity in the event of lender default.  That is, assuming the ID looks good. So in my mind, the collateral is sound.

IMHO there are two problems:
 - how to verify his docs... and still be profitable with a 5$ loan?
 - in case he defaults what to do? its just 5$... its not worth calling a lawyer

That's exactly my point.  You don't need to verify them. If the ID looks really good, it has value in itself (good for anyone wanting to scam). I think that value is more than 0.02BTC but it really depends on the amount of ID he provides.

So..Are you willing to fund me?
Of course that is upon repayment, you agree not to sell my ID to a scamming ring.😂


Would you come on a video call and hold up your ID? That would prove you aren't using second-hand ID.
sr. member
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September 25, 2015, 05:28:15 PM
#18

Yeah, I didn't mean on this forum.  I just meant that good quality ID sets have value.  So in my mind it is a form of collateral.

you are right that a good ID set has value
i would not accept it as collateral because a collateral is meant to be sold in case of a default: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collateral_(finance)

as in my mind selling IDs is only for scammers i'd suspect any lender who takes this as collateral as a potential scammer (i would not neg rate him though)
newbie
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September 25, 2015, 05:26:32 PM
#17
I think a good quality ID set is worth more than .02BTC because it can be used for profitable illicit activity in the event of lender default.  That is, assuming the ID looks good. So in my mind, the collateral is sound.

IMHO there are two problems:
 - how to verify his docs... and still be profitable with a 5$ loan?
 - in case he defaults what to do? its just 5$... its not worth calling a lawyer

That's exactly my point.  You don't need to verify them. If the ID looks really good, it has value in itself (good for anyone wanting to scam). I think that value is more than 0.02BTC but it really depends on the amount of ID he provides.

So..Are you willing to fund me?
Of course that is upon repayment, you agree not to sell my ID to a scamming ring.😂
sr. member
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September 25, 2015, 05:24:40 PM
#16
I think a good quality ID set is worth more than .02BTC because it can be used for profitable illicit activity in the event of lender default.  That is, assuming the ID looks good. So in my mind, the collateral is sound.

IMHO there are two problems:
 - how to verify his docs... and still be profitable with a 5$ loan?
 - in case he defaults what to do? its just 5$... its not worth calling a lawyer

That's exactly my point.  You don't need to verify them. If the ID looks really good, it has value in itself (good for anyone wanting to scam). I think that value is more than 0.02BTC but it really depends on the amount of ID he provides.

if i get you right you are saying that if he defaults you could sell his id to another scammer?
if his id is already fake and you dont see it he could just use it again (maybe not on btct)

Yeah, I didn't mean on this forum.  I just meant that good quality ID sets have value.  So in my mind it is a form of collateral.
sr. member
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September 25, 2015, 05:18:44 PM
#15
I think a good quality ID set is worth more than .02BTC because it can be used for profitable illicit activity in the event of lender default.  That is, assuming the ID looks good. So in my mind, the collateral is sound.

IMHO there are two problems:
 - how to verify his docs... and still be profitable with a 5$ loan?
 - in case he defaults what to do? its just 5$... its not worth calling a lawyer

That's exactly my point.  You don't need to verify them. If the ID looks really good, it has value in itself (good for anyone wanting to scam). I think that value is more than 0.02BTC but it really depends on the amount of ID he provides.

if i get you right you are saying that if he defaults you could sell his id to another scammer?
if his id is already fake and you dont see it he could just use it again (maybe not on btct)
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 302
September 25, 2015, 05:13:45 PM
#14
I think a good quality ID set is worth more than .02BTC because it can be used for profitable illicit activity in the event of lender default.  That is, assuming the ID looks good. So in my mind, the collateral is sound.

IMHO there are two problems:
 - how to verify his docs... and still be profitable with a 5$ loan?
 - in case he defaults what to do? its just 5$... its not worth calling a lawyer

That's exactly my point.  You don't need to verify them. If the ID looks really good, it has value in itself (good for anyone wanting to scam). I think that value is more than 0.02BTC but it really depends on the amount of ID he provides.
sr. member
Activity: 252
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September 25, 2015, 05:12:41 PM
#13
I think a good quality ID set is worth more than .02BTC because it can be used for profitable illicit activity in the event of lender default.  That is, assuming the ID looks good. So in my mind, the collateral is sound.

IMHO there are two problems:
 - how to verify his docs... and still be profitable with a 5$ loan?
 - in case he defaults what to do? its just 5$... its not worth calling a lawyer
copper member
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hee-ho.
September 25, 2015, 05:10:30 PM
#12
Find some collateral,

good advice there.

or build up some trust over the next few weeks before requesting a loan.

I doubt people will trust you enough to give you a no collateral loan when it's clear that you want to buy trust.
sr. member
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September 25, 2015, 05:09:57 PM
#11
I think a good quality ID set is worth more than .02BTC because it can be used for profitable illicit activity in the event of lender default.  That is, assuming the ID looks good. So in my mind, the collateral is sound.
legendary
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September 25, 2015, 05:01:41 PM
#10
I'm going to have to tell you no. ID is worth nothing; Vod gives a pretty good explanation on why.

- Identification.  So what if they can prove who they are.  Are you going to spend more money and time taking them to court on untested legal grounds?  You'll probably just walk away, like everyone does.  ID is useless.

Also, "proof of income"? Your income must be a measly thing for you to be begging for less than 5 bucks.
There's a difference between good ol' traditional CASH and Bitcoin. My employer doesn't pay in bitcoin. And I do not have access to buying bitcoin without waiting a week.
I  only wonder what can not be bought for traditional payment method? if you confirm that money will have to.
newbie
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September 25, 2015, 04:54:20 PM
#9
I'm going to have to tell you no. ID is worth nothing; Vod gives a pretty good explanation on why.

- Identification.  So what if they can prove who they are.  Are you going to spend more money and time taking them to court on untested legal grounds?  You'll probably just walk away, like everyone does.  ID is useless.

Also, "proof of income"? Your income must be a measly thing for you to be begging for less than 5 bucks.
There's a difference between good ol' traditional CASH and Bitcoin. My employer doesn't pay in bitcoin. And I do not have access to buying bitcoin without waiting a week.
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