this is kind of long, got the cliff notes version?
sorry but you truly have to understand the context and the tactics they use.that's why this long version because it's all in there.
no cliff notes version this time
Topic: Why you shouldn't buy from BAIKAL - JUST DON'T - page 4. (Read 3797 times)
sorry but you truly have to understand the context and the tactics they use.that's why this long version because it's all in there.
no cliff notes version this time
this is kind of long, got the cliff notes version?
NOTE:
WE ARE TALKING HERE ABOUT THE ORIGINAL BAIKAL AND NOT ABOUT SOME SCAM SERVICE PRETENDING TO BE THEM.
If you support this road I've taken please be kind and share this topic wherever you can.Let's help baikal change as it has a beautiful piece of hardware.
I do invite all the members who had any type of issues ordering from BAIKAL to come forward and post here.
I do plan to go to the sky and beyond with what I'm going to write here.
I will share this post on every forum I am part of and on every social media I have.
So let's make together this utter nonsense correct as I hope BAIKAL will do something about it in the very near future.
I will state here my entire experience with them.For some of my statements I will post proof but for some I have none because it happened a while ago.
Please keep in mind that I only wanted to buy 1 unit each time.
So I've been trying to buy a BAIKAL since they had the 1st model of Quad ( the one with 600 MH ).
Always got no reply on email / skype / facebook.
On skype I was able to see that baikal was active after I sent the message but no reply.
I also sent messages on skype while they were active but no reply.
On facebook my messages were showed as "seen" but no reply.
Then the cube arrived ( with 300 MH ).
Same situation, no reply.
Then the QUAD CUBE ( 1200 MH ).
Of course I tried to contact them again and buy 1 unit.After a couple of tries I got a reply on skype telling me that I can make an order.Needless to say I was exploding of happiness.
Baikal asked me to make the order via email which I did.They replied in minutes with this text:
While I was in the middle of making the payment I realised that the amount of BTC they asked is not at all equal to the amount of USD they wrote.In fact what they asked as BTC was, at that time, 600$ more.
I mean I was full aware of the different value exchanges give to BTC but nowhere in this world the difference would be so big ( 600$ ).
So I wrote them on skype and got no answer and I sent them this email:
I was so disgusted by their tactics that I didn't even bother trying to get an A900 or a Giant.I gave up on them as a company.
Then, 3 days ago I saw they tweeted something.I saw the tweet about their GIANT X10 and I decided I have to try this.I went to their website but there was still only the old Giant model...so I asked myself WTF?!?
So about 10-15 minutes after the tweet I sent them a message on skype stating that I want to buy and just to be sure I sent them an email also.
Couple of hours later no reply so I went to bed telling myself that it's going to be all ok now because I was at least among the first 50 people who stated they want to order.
The 2nd day in the morning still no reply so I really got into fuckin' hulk rage mode.
On facebook nothing, on twitter nothing, on the website they still had the old model of GIANT.WHAT THE DOUBLE FUCK?!?
I went on skype and wrote a couple of messages.Finally they replied.
This is what followed:
I sent them the email and they replied within hours, I was happy again:
The second day I tried to make the bank transfer via the internet banking.It gave some "validation failure" error.I said to myself that maybe I am a dumbass and I put some wrong info.
Tried again with attention.The same error.
I sent them this email:
Hours passed and nothing.Tried on skype:
You have to realise that I was by now in a state pretty similar to a shock.
I mean I made an order, you agreed, you sent the payment details, I was willing to pay and now you tell me it's all booked ?!?
I am one of the people who has 1 unit booked..........WHAT THE TRIPLE FUCK YOUR MOMMA'S DEAD RELATIVES
??!!!!!?
Of course no more replies on skype.....
I went on twitter and I saw that they tweeted minutes before that the batch is all sold.On their website still nothing.
Then I also received an email to which I replied:
Again full hulk rage mode.Went on skype:
Meanwhile I went to the bank to try and make the payment manually with the help of a bank officer.The same result "validation failure" from the bank itself.The bank officer told me for sure it is something wrong or not accurate with the details provided.
Not too long ago they replied to my last email and I wrote them the last email they'll get from me:
2 days after they announced on twitter the miner was sold out the product appeared on their website too......with that big ass stamp "SOLD OUT"
WE ARE TALKING HERE ABOUT THE ORIGINAL BAIKAL AND NOT ABOUT SOME SCAM SERVICE PRETENDING TO BE THEM.
If you support this road I've taken please be kind and share this topic wherever you can.Let's help baikal change as it has a beautiful piece of hardware.
I do invite all the members who had any type of issues ordering from BAIKAL to come forward and post here.
I do plan to go to the sky and beyond with what I'm going to write here.
I will share this post on every forum I am part of and on every social media I have.
So let's make together this utter nonsense correct as I hope BAIKAL will do something about it in the very near future.
I will state here my entire experience with them.For some of my statements I will post proof but for some I have none because it happened a while ago.
Please keep in mind that I only wanted to buy 1 unit each time.
So I've been trying to buy a BAIKAL since they had the 1st model of Quad ( the one with 600 MH ).
Always got no reply on email / skype / facebook.
On skype I was able to see that baikal was active after I sent the message but no reply.
I also sent messages on skype while they were active but no reply.
On facebook my messages were showed as "seen" but no reply.
Then the cube arrived ( with 300 MH ).
Same situation, no reply.
Then the QUAD CUBE ( 1200 MH ).
Of course I tried to contact them again and buy 1 unit.After a couple of tries I got a reply on skype telling me that I can make an order.Needless to say I was exploding of happiness.
Baikal asked me to make the order via email which I did.They replied in minutes with this text:
Subject: Re: new order as we talked on skype
Date: Friday, April 28, 2017, 12:07 PM
Hi,Thank you for your support on
baikal.Total cost:cost of miner+cost
of delivery=3196+147 =
3343usdBTC:2.906btcAddress:
126Z6e4rMC8cXMQFBc26n6usTw1ZeP1eUaPlease send
me a screenshot when your payment get at least two
confirmation on blockchian.best
regards.baikal
Our
cutting-edge technology creates a brighter future for
you！Web:
www.baikalminer.com 丨 Skype: baikalminerMain-Email:[email protected]
Date: Friday, April 28, 2017, 12:07 PM
Hi,Thank you for your support on
baikal.Total cost:cost of miner+cost
of delivery=3196+147 =
3343usdBTC:2.906btcAddress:
126Z6e4rMC8cXMQFBc26n6usTw1ZeP1eUaPlease send
me a screenshot when your payment get at least two
confirmation on blockchian.best
regards.baikal
Our
cutting-edge technology creates a brighter future for
you！Web:
www.baikalminer.com 丨 Skype: baikalminerMain-Email:[email protected]
While I was in the middle of making the payment I realised that the amount of BTC they asked is not at all equal to the amount of USD they wrote.In fact what they asked as BTC was, at that time, 600$ more.
I mean I was full aware of the different value exchanges give to BTC but nowhere in this world the difference would be so big ( 600$ ).
So I wrote them on skype and got no answer and I sent them this email:
I wanted to pay you but there is something wrong and on Skype nobody answers.
You wrote "3196+147 =3343usd BTC:2.906btc."
But 2.906 BTC is 3920 USD and not 3343.I know that exchange is different but that much I don't think so.
Please check and let me know.
I have the money ready.
What do you think? NO REPLY.You wrote "3196+147 =3343usd BTC:2.906btc."
But 2.906 BTC is 3920 USD and not 3343.I know that exchange is different but that much I don't think so.
Please check and let me know.
I have the money ready.
I was so disgusted by their tactics that I didn't even bother trying to get an A900 or a Giant.I gave up on them as a company.
Then, 3 days ago I saw they tweeted something.I saw the tweet about their GIANT X10 and I decided I have to try this.I went to their website but there was still only the old Giant model...so I asked myself WTF?!?
So about 10-15 minutes after the tweet I sent them a message on skype stating that I want to buy and just to be sure I sent them an email also.
Couple of hours later no reply so I went to bed telling myself that it's going to be all ok now because I was at least among the first 50 people who stated they want to order.
The 2nd day in the morning still no reply so I really got into fuckin' hulk rage mode.
On facebook nothing, on twitter nothing, on the website they still had the old model of GIANT.WHAT THE DOUBLE FUCK?!?
I went on skype and wrote a couple of messages.Finally they replied.
This is what followed:
now really guys. I want to buy your products. Why are you so difficult to get along with. I want 5 units, I am willing to pay in advance just to be put on the waiting list for the next batch. come on, let's work on this together and figure something out
baikalminer:
I will try to apply one for you
Price at 1188usd/pcs, discount is not available.
Delivery time at the end of October.
Payment only available at BANK Transfer USD.
When you are ready, please start a new email and send to our official email [email protected].
Email please detail out below info:
- Purchase quantity: XXX
- Payment method: bank wire usd
- Shipping address: (Receiver, Detailed address, Zip code, Phone)
- Any special demands:
thank you. i will send the email asap. can i get on the next batch waiting list with the other 4 pieces?Sent on:Wed?email sent.are you still here?
baikalminer:
I will try to apply one for you
Price at 1188usd/pcs, discount is not available.
Delivery time at the end of October.
Payment only available at BANK Transfer USD.
When you are ready, please start a new email and send to our official email [email protected].
Email please detail out below info:
- Purchase quantity: XXX
- Payment method: bank wire usd
- Shipping address: (Receiver, Detailed address, Zip code, Phone)
- Any special demands:
thank you. i will send the email asap. can i get on the next batch waiting list with the other 4 pieces?Sent on:Wed?email sent.are you still here?
I sent them the email and they replied within hours, I was happy again:
Hi,
Thank you for your Support and Trust on Baikal.
Total cost:(before sending miner we will contact you for taking shipping charge)
Machine：1188usd
Bank info for payment please check from attached file. (Payment comments you can write your name ). Quotation only valid for 2 days since we send this email.
When you done with payment, please provide the payment voucher and the passport of the Remitter. If paid under name of company, then please provide the copy of its business license. All files will be deleted as soon as we send out your parcel.
Different areas takes different time for receiving payment, please be patience after you done the payment, we will inform you as soon as we confirm your payment. Please be note we will not be responsible for the delay of confirming due to the missing of required files, please understand.
Best regards.
Baikal miner.
Thank you for your Support and Trust on Baikal.
Total cost:(before sending miner we will contact you for taking shipping charge)
Machine：1188usd
Bank info for payment please check from attached file. (Payment comments you can write your name ). Quotation only valid for 2 days since we send this email.
When you done with payment, please provide the payment voucher and the passport of the Remitter. If paid under name of company, then please provide the copy of its business license. All files will be deleted as soon as we send out your parcel.
Different areas takes different time for receiving payment, please be patience after you done the payment, we will inform you as soon as we confirm your payment. Please be note we will not be responsible for the delay of confirming due to the missing of required files, please understand.
Best regards.
Baikal miner.
The second day I tried to make the bank transfer via the internet banking.It gave some "validation failure" error.I said to myself that maybe I am a dumbass and I put some wrong info.
Tried again with attention.The same error.
I sent them this email:
Guys, I tried several times paying you with bank transfer but my bank always gives me "validation failure".
I think something is wrong or incomplete with the details you provided for payment.
Can I pay you using another service, please ( bitcoin, paypal, skrill )?
In 15 hours my order will expire and I really really don't want to miss the chance of buying from you.
I think something is wrong or incomplete with the details you provided for payment.
Can I pay you using another service, please ( bitcoin, paypal, skrill )?
In 15 hours my order will expire and I really really don't want to miss the chance of buying from you.
Hours passed and nothing.Tried on skype:
hello
are you available for 3 minutes? please
From:baikalminer
Hello， Thank you very much for your support. I am really sorry to let you know that this batch of Giant X10 pre-sale are all booked up. Because this batch only have a small quantity, I am sorry can not meet all customers’ demands Please keep an eye on our facebook or website, we will update to website as soon as second pre-sale on line. Thank youBaikal miner
yes, I know that. do you have 3 free minutes for a quick chat? please
are you available for 3 minutes? please
From:baikalminer
Hello， Thank you very much for your support. I am really sorry to let you know that this batch of Giant X10 pre-sale are all booked up. Because this batch only have a small quantity, I am sorry can not meet all customers’ demands Please keep an eye on our facebook or website, we will update to website as soon as second pre-sale on line. Thank youBaikal miner
yes, I know that. do you have 3 free minutes for a quick chat? please
You have to realise that I was by now in a state pretty similar to a shock.
I mean I made an order, you agreed, you sent the payment details, I was willing to pay and now you tell me it's all booked ?!?
I am one of the people who has 1 unit booked..........WHAT THE TRIPLE FUCK YOUR MOMMA'S DEAD RELATIVES
??!!!!!?Of course no more replies on skype.....
I went on twitter and I saw that they tweeted minutes before that the batch is all sold.On their website still nothing.
Then I also received an email to which I replied:
I have one of the booked miners!!!!
My email was about a failing payment.
I cannot pay with the bank.
Please focus and read again my previous email
On Sep 15, 2017, at 6:36, baikal <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I am really sorry to let you know that this batch of Giant X10 pre-sale are all booked up. Because this batch only have a small quantity, I am sorry can not meet all customers' demands. Please kindly hold on the transfer.
Please keep an eye on our facebook or website, we will update to website as soon as second pre-sale on line.
Thank you
Baikal miner
My email was about a failing payment.
I cannot pay with the bank.
Please focus and read again my previous email
On Sep 15, 2017, at 6:36, baikal <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I am really sorry to let you know that this batch of Giant X10 pre-sale are all booked up. Because this batch only have a small quantity, I am sorry can not meet all customers' demands. Please kindly hold on the transfer.
Please keep an eye on our facebook or website, we will update to website as soon as second pre-sale on line.
Thank you
Baikal miner
Again full hulk rage mode.Went on skype:
hello
are you available for 3 minutes? please
From:baikalminer
Hello， Thank you very much for your support. I am really sorry to let you know that this batch of Giant X10 pre-sale are all booked up. Because this batch only have a small quantity, I am sorry can not meet all customers’ demands Please keep an eye on our facebook or website, we will update to website as soon as second pre-sale on line. Thank youBaikal miner
yes, I know that. do you have 3 free minutes for a quick chat? please
the bank won't let me complete the transaction to your bank. please advise. another way of payment is available?
From:baikalminer I'm really sorry, because this is our first sale. The quantity is very small. We didn't think of too many people buying it, so now we don't have any quantity. I hope you understand
you can follow our facebook https://business.facebook.com/baikalminercom-495344187464643/?business_id=1354738364573505
but you booked, 1 for me and you sent me payment details.in the email you sent me you said the booking is valid for 2 days. that means today included
guys, god damn it, please reply:is my booking still valid or not?!?
From:baikalminer Sorry, because we are the first pre-sale, the quantity is relatively small, we did not expect too many customers to buy, so now there is no place, but we will launch the second batch of pre-sale as soon as possible, I hope you can understand
can you please stop using templates as an answer and really answer to what I am asking
Yesterday you booked 1 giant x10 for me
you asked. me. to make. the order on email
I did.You replied with the details for bank transfer payment "baikalminer - Wednesday 11:44> Price at 1188usd/pcs, discount is not available.Delivery time at the end of October.Payment only available at BANK Transfer USD.When you are ready, please start a new email and send to our official email baikalbaikalminer.com. Email please detail out below info:- Purchase quantity: XXX- Payment method: bank wire usd- Shipping address: (Receiver, Detailed address, Zip code, Phone)- Any special demands:"
this was your message to me. what the hell?
From:baikalminer your email is ?
I gave them my email.
From:baikalminer
sorry, we don't have miner for you
We are subject to the receipt of the payment voucher
then why did you tell me to pay for one and sent me an email with the payment details?
do you want me to copy-paste here the email?
"Hi,Thank you for your Support and Trust on Baikal. Total cost:(before sending miner we will contact you for taking shipping charge)Machine：1188usd Bank info for payment please check from attached file. (Payment comments you can write your name ). Quotation only valid for 2 days since we send this email. When you done with payment, please provide the payment voucher and the passport of the Remitter. If paid under name of company, then please provide the copy of its business license. All files will be deleted as soon as we send out your parcel. Different areas takes different time for receiving payment, please be patience after you done the payment, we will inform you as soon as we confirm your payment. Please be note we will not be responsible for the delay of confirming due to the missing of required files, please understand. Best regards.Baikal miner.Our cutting-edge technology creates a brighter future for you！Web: www.baikalminer.com 丨 Skype: baikalminerEmail:baikalbaikalminer.com 丨 Facebook: baikalminer.officalSent on:9:37 am
From:baikalminer
But you didn't pay, and when you were asking other questions, someone else gave us the payment voucher, so we would keep it for those who already paid for it
So we give priority to those who pay the vouchers
as I emailed you the bank declines the transfer with the details you provided. you said the voucher is valid for 2 days. that will end in 6 hours
From:baikalminer
I think that's why I've told you many times, because there are so many people buying, we will certainly keep orders for those who are in the front payment. Isn't that fair?
no it is not fair. if you say something then stick to it. that would be an honorable thing to do. you said 2 days then let it be 2 days. plus it is a problem with validating your bank for the transfer
From:baikalminer
Sorry, we have no quota for the first batch at present, otherwise we will wait for your payment. We will launch the second presale as soon as possible. We will release it as soon as possible
what the fuck..... I thought you asian people have a devotion to honor and respect itself and to respect other people..... I am utterly disappointed
are you available for 3 minutes? please
From:baikalminer
Hello， Thank you very much for your support. I am really sorry to let you know that this batch of Giant X10 pre-sale are all booked up. Because this batch only have a small quantity, I am sorry can not meet all customers’ demands Please keep an eye on our facebook or website, we will update to website as soon as second pre-sale on line. Thank youBaikal miner
yes, I know that. do you have 3 free minutes for a quick chat? please
the bank won't let me complete the transaction to your bank. please advise. another way of payment is available?
From:baikalminer I'm really sorry, because this is our first sale. The quantity is very small. We didn't think of too many people buying it, so now we don't have any quantity. I hope you understand
you can follow our facebook https://business.facebook.com/baikalminercom-495344187464643/?business_id=1354738364573505
but you booked, 1 for me and you sent me payment details.in the email you sent me you said the booking is valid for 2 days. that means today included
guys, god damn it, please reply:is my booking still valid or not?!?
From:baikalminer Sorry, because we are the first pre-sale, the quantity is relatively small, we did not expect too many customers to buy, so now there is no place, but we will launch the second batch of pre-sale as soon as possible, I hope you can understand
can you please stop using templates as an answer and really answer to what I am asking
Yesterday you booked 1 giant x10 for me
you asked. me. to make. the order on email
I did.You replied with the details for bank transfer payment "baikalminer - Wednesday 11:44> Price at 1188usd/pcs, discount is not available.Delivery time at the end of October.Payment only available at BANK Transfer USD.When you are ready, please start a new email and send to our official email baikalbaikalminer.com. Email please detail out below info:- Purchase quantity: XXX- Payment method: bank wire usd- Shipping address: (Receiver, Detailed address, Zip code, Phone)- Any special demands:"
this was your message to me. what the hell?
From:baikalminer your email is ?
I gave them my email.
From:baikalminer
sorry, we don't have miner for you
We are subject to the receipt of the payment voucher
then why did you tell me to pay for one and sent me an email with the payment details?
do you want me to copy-paste here the email?
"Hi,Thank you for your Support and Trust on Baikal. Total cost:(before sending miner we will contact you for taking shipping charge)Machine：1188usd Bank info for payment please check from attached file. (Payment comments you can write your name ). Quotation only valid for 2 days since we send this email. When you done with payment, please provide the payment voucher and the passport of the Remitter. If paid under name of company, then please provide the copy of its business license. All files will be deleted as soon as we send out your parcel. Different areas takes different time for receiving payment, please be patience after you done the payment, we will inform you as soon as we confirm your payment. Please be note we will not be responsible for the delay of confirming due to the missing of required files, please understand. Best regards.Baikal miner.Our cutting-edge technology creates a brighter future for you！Web: www.baikalminer.com 丨 Skype: baikalminerEmail:baikalbaikalminer.com 丨 Facebook: baikalminer.officalSent on:9:37 am
From:baikalminer
But you didn't pay, and when you were asking other questions, someone else gave us the payment voucher, so we would keep it for those who already paid for it
So we give priority to those who pay the vouchers
as I emailed you the bank declines the transfer with the details you provided. you said the voucher is valid for 2 days. that will end in 6 hours
From:baikalminer
I think that's why I've told you many times, because there are so many people buying, we will certainly keep orders for those who are in the front payment. Isn't that fair?
no it is not fair. if you say something then stick to it. that would be an honorable thing to do. you said 2 days then let it be 2 days. plus it is a problem with validating your bank for the transfer
From:baikalminer
Sorry, we have no quota for the first batch at present, otherwise we will wait for your payment. We will launch the second presale as soon as possible. We will release it as soon as possible
what the fuck..... I thought you asian people have a devotion to honor and respect itself and to respect other people..... I am utterly disappointed
Meanwhile I went to the bank to try and make the payment manually with the help of a bank officer.The same result "validation failure" from the bank itself.The bank officer told me for sure it is something wrong or not accurate with the details provided.
Not too long ago they replied to my last email and I wrote them the last email they'll get from me:
Yeah....be honest and just say YOU DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOUR CLIENTS and that's that.
--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 9/15/17, baikal <[email protected]> wrote:
Subject: Re: giant x10 order
To:
Date: Friday, September 15, 2017, 2:40 PM
hi,
Maybe next time we will
available for BTC.
You can also
follow us on facebook or twitter, wait for our upcoming
second sale.https://twitter.com/baikalminerhttps://business.facebook.com/baikalminer.offical/?business_id=1354738364573505 Best
regards.Baikal
miner
--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 9/15/17, baikal <[email protected]> wrote:
Subject: Re: giant x10 order
To:
Date: Friday, September 15, 2017, 2:40 PM
hi,
Maybe next time we will
available for BTC.
You can also
follow us on facebook or twitter, wait for our upcoming
second sale.https://twitter.com/baikalminerhttps://business.facebook.com/baikalminer.offical/?business_id=1354738364573505 Best
regards.Baikal
miner
2 days after they announced on twitter the miner was sold out the product appeared on their website too......with that big ass stamp "SOLD OUT"
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