Topic: Why you shouldn't buy Hashfasts new "up to 800GH/s" "product" - page 4. (Read 11643 times)

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4.  never get involved in a land war in Asia?

They aint sexy, that's true, but they are well engineered.
Fast to build, cheap to build and reliable as advertise.
BITMAIN can still drop the price to stay competive.
They are the only company that is funded by themself and have miners in stock.
No bragging on their website who they are.
Some people accuse them not answering PM's, if I were them, I also not answering people who spam and talk rubbish.
They do answer you if you PM them in a polite way and not spam.

I can understand that and I respect that. I only ask because I like to look at all sides of an issue and possible positive/negative audience opinion to better formulate action. It's what I do with most business decision I make, so I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask you as to what your objections were so I could improve/strengthen that part of the argument or realize that it is a lost cause as a whole undertaking. I understand that something like this wouldn't appeal to everyone. Thank you for your input.

it's not for me, is all i'm saying, i don't see why this is a concern for you.
best wishes

Where are you getting this cult idea from? What do you think the outcome of something like this would be? You don't have to be a part of the group if you don't want to, but I think it would benefit the community at large and am interested in your opposition to such an idea.

That's me, yes (public whois), but no, i'm not behind any other domains. I don't really like the idea of being sued for damages.

your thought misleads you.


I think that no harm will come of it, as it is not something that I will partake in.


As I said, if you feel the need to be part of a group, carry on.


yes, i'd rather solo mine with 1gh/s than be part of any centralised cult. thanks.

I don't think you do get the idea and I don't understand what harm you think could come of this. It wouldn't be run by those organizations, in my ideal situation anyway, but just be a separate, non-biased, unaffiliated organization that vets the scammers out there and gives people an idea of who is legit and who isn't without digging through loads of Bitcointalk pages and Reddit. It isn't going to be the OPEC of the Bitcoin mining industry.

But you would rather solo mine with 1 GH? What does that have to do with anything written here? Or are you happy that some people are getting scammed and scammers are upping the ante because that makes your mining more profitable? I'm really struggling to see why something like this isn't necessary and wouldn't be embraced by the community since the days of bASIC, the lost Avalon chips, BFL, BFL, BFL, Cointerra underdelivering, VMC/AMC/SCAM being investigated by the MO Attorney General and going through supposedly 4 chip redesigns while people who invested have NOTHING to show for it. This is an idea that is highly overdue in this marketplace if we are ever to be considered legitimate as we already have enough recent problems with the legal issues of key players in the Bitcoin ecosystem already. Miners have been going with the idea of individual responsibility and buyer beware, etc, which is great and all, but we have seen the fruits of that approach already and they have been bittersweet or downright rottern for the majority of miners.

Gmaxwell has a quaint idea of fair play. 

Although, as he says, he has not threatened to use his moderator powers against Hashfast_CL, he did threaten to ban ME. 

This was because I mentioned Hashfast's unsavory employees in the other thread and then reposted it when Hashfast_CL deleted.

Polite opposition might seem chivalrous to gmaxwell, but I've learned not to extend such courtesies to entities with cesspool ethics like Hashfast's.

Lmao why don't you just ban them
They deleted you from your own forum

I don't understand your comment, please elaborate where I have been pointing fingers in this case?
suckers will always exist, even when they are given a club to play in.

If you want people to keep getting suckered... then I guess no sense protecting one another. Finger pointing in the wrong direction buddy.

no, i get the idea of a cult/sect/group orgy/foundation/union/guild perfectly well thank you.
if you feel the need to be part of a club, carry on. it's not for me, thanks.

I would like to add that I have had 210 btc taken from me by HashFast.....  They promised me specifically of a return of btc if not delivered by Jan 1, 2014.  

I have not received anything from hashfast except silence...  

Do NOT pre-order asics....

bitmain is shipping in stock asics... they aint sexxy, but they perform very well.

I don't think you get the idea of the guild / association. It is a BBB for Miners. Not a mining pool or a place to sell products. Open to all who would rather deal with reputable and honest brokers in the Miner field as opposed to the HF / BFL / Avalon types.

i'd rather solo mine with 1gh/s.
JUST NO.
 

I think user Cedivad is running http://hashfast.org/List_of_Lies, PM him to see if he is behind that one too:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cedivad-63794

+1 Here here.

We need association or guild of reputable miner fabricators and developers. Here was my post for a guild.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/diy-custom-open-hardware-software-guild-call-for-ideas-282030

That is what I have learned from my very short time around these forums.

Lessons to learn:

1. Never pre-order ASIC mining hardware.

2. Never store funds on an exchange unless you are converting immediately and withdrawing.

3. Backup your wallet.dat and encrypt that baby.

Pretty simple. I may have missed one or two fundamental lessons. But these 3 should sum it up for every noob and pioneer.