Read the difference between the first article against HF (not from coindesk) and the article that coindesk copied from the first source a few days after:
http://www.extremetech.com/uncategorized/173772-bitcoin-asic-manufacturer-hashfast-facing-lawsuits-over-alleged-false-advertising-fluctuating-bitcoin-prices
http://www.coindesk.com/asic-manufacturer-hashfast-faces-legal-action/
And yes, it can be fined. Find the bitcoin transaction id.
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Topic: Why you shouldn't buy Hashfasts new "up to 800GH/s" "product" (Read 11576 times)
Why doesn't Coindesk do better more indepth reporting on BFL, Avalon and HashFast? They all seem to get a pass on the hard questions.
For the same reason why their articles are link campaigns sometimes.Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #kJ3DA4DMXizwTFah
Paid for articles or advertorials?
Why doesn't Coindesk do better more indepth reporting on BFL, Avalon and HashFast? They all seem to get a pass on the hard questions.
For the same reason why their articles are link campaigns sometimes.Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #kJ3DA4DMXizwTFah
Kudos to the OP for making this thread.
Hopefully others will find it and never purchase from HF again.
Hopefully others will find it and never purchase from HF again.
this should be set as a sticky.. or a buyers beware thread up top for all the bullshit scam companies
I feel like I can't reasonably do that because I can't vet every complaint with high confidence. And I don't want to just sticky vendors who have screwed _me_, while vendors who have screwed other people don't get the sticky.Like BFL specifically. How about we sticky the post by Dogie about fabricators?
You guys see this:
http://www.coindesk.com/court-grants-order-freeze-hashfasts-bitcoin-wallets/
Why doesn't Coindesk do better more indepth reporting on BFL, Avalon and HashFast? They all seem to get a pass on the hard questions.
this should be set as a sticky.. or a buyers beware thread up top for all the bullshit scam companies
I feel like I can't reasonably do that because I can't vet every complaint with high confidence. And I don't want to just sticky vendors who have screwed _me_, while vendors who have screwed other people don't get the sticky.Like BFL specifically. How about we sticky the post by Dogie about fabricators?
You guys see this:
http://www.coindesk.com/court-grants-order-freeze-hashfasts-bitcoin-wallets/
this should be set as a sticky.. or a buyers beware thread up top for all the bullshit scam companies
I feel like I can't reasonably do that because I can't vet every complaint with high confidence. And I don't want to just sticky vendors who have screwed _me_, while vendors who have screwed other people don't get the sticky.Like BFL specifically. How about we sticky the post by Dogie about fabricators?
They are now fucking over batch 2, 3, and 4 even more by delaying another 3 months, while offering them an "upgrade". This upgrade from baby jets/sierras will only place them at the end of the line of evo orders. New customers that placed their pre-orders 1 month ago will receive their units before old customers that pre-ordered roughly 4-6 months ago. I have now asked for a full refund on all of my orders and taken a huge loss due to HashFast scamming us all. I have no idea if they will even respond to the refund email though since they have completely ignored my other emails from months ago. I am sick of dealing with these thieves and just want out of their goddamn pre-order waiting list.
We need association or guild of reputable miner fabricators and developers.
i'd rather solo mine with 1gh/s.
JUST NO.
You might want to lend support to this idea:
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Ok so HF cross posted a reply to my post in their self moderated thread, i guess because he was already planning of removing my answer. So:
I should have said "i had no idea that HF was actually selling chips". Only because you list something on your website it doesn't mean that you are actually selling it.
You are selling the ASIC and the IP for the board, and yet your previous customers are getting nothing at all. I'm quite sure that they would have been happy to have the ASIC and the IP of the board as well instead of void promises as usual.
HashFast has been selling chips for weeks, it's right on the webpage and very easy to find:
You are right.I should have said "i had no idea that HF was actually selling chips". Only because you list something on your website it doesn't mean that you are actually selling it.
You are selling the ASIC and the IP for the board, and yet your previous customers are getting nothing at all. I'm quite sure that they would have been happy to have the ASIC and the IP of the board as well instead of void promises as usual.
You opened my eyes. I had no idea HF was selling chips...
With gateway behind the website...
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With gateway behind the website...
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It seems HashFast_CL had to go home early to mom today and decided to lock the thread at
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5741703
I'm sorry but that statement is total bullshit and you know it. What the fuck have you been doing for the last 6 weeks? No equipment has been shipping, no replacement BBJet units for RMA cases. No MPP for the BBJets. No Upgrade kits, except for 1 or 2 units. No Sierra units. No MPP for the Sierra units.
It's not rocket science... the chips are here and they work. The PCB has been finalized and can be produced in a few days time. You have a supplier of power supplies it seems, exclusively. CIARA can slap together over 500 units a day you claim, give or take a few loose screws in their cases.
With these facts, you should be pumping out hundreds of units every day and ship them world wide
How come nobody is getting the equipment they paid for in September 2013? What is holding you back? Seriously? How long do you think you can keep this up?
Who in their right mind will be so stupid to ever order again from HashFast with the above facts? They will be pouring their BTC into a black hole when placing an order.
The HashFast Derangement Syndrome, where the haters spew endless negativity no matter what we do, is getting old.
If you want to talk about haters, trust me, I'm a big hater. You took my preorder BTC and did a runner with it. You have not delivered anything, except a few hundred BBJet units.
The "no matter what you do" part is funny, as you are not doing anything. You are not shipping. You are not delivering. You are not responding to support email requests. You are not responding to support phone calls. You are not responding to refund requests.
So yes, please enlighten us, other than posting about new vapourware products you are trying to pre-sell, what are you doing?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5741703
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HashFast is working as hard as possible to build and deliver upgrade kits and MPP as fast as possible.
Our engineers and production staff work around the clock. The idea we're resting on our laurels, or mining with customer equipment, or whatever the latest baseless FUD rumor (tropical island/hammock/mai tai) the forum dreams up, is ridiculous.
Our engineers and production staff work around the clock. The idea we're resting on our laurels, or mining with customer equipment, or whatever the latest baseless FUD rumor (tropical island/hammock/mai tai) the forum dreams up, is ridiculous.
I'm sorry but that statement is total bullshit and you know it. What the fuck have you been doing for the last 6 weeks? No equipment has been shipping, no replacement BBJet units for RMA cases. No MPP for the BBJets. No Upgrade kits, except for 1 or 2 units. No Sierra units. No MPP for the Sierra units.
It's not rocket science... the chips are here and they work. The PCB has been finalized and can be produced in a few days time. You have a supplier of power supplies it seems, exclusively. CIARA can slap together over 500 units a day you claim, give or take a few loose screws in their cases.
With these facts, you should be pumping out hundreds of units every day and ship them world wide
How come nobody is getting the equipment they paid for in September 2013? What is holding you back? Seriously? How long do you think you can keep this up?
Who in their right mind will be so stupid to ever order again from HashFast with the above facts? They will be pouring their BTC into a black hole when placing an order.
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The HashFast Derangement Syndrome, where the haters spew endless negativity no matter what we do, is getting old.
If you want to talk about haters, trust me, I'm a big hater. You took my preorder BTC and did a runner with it. You have not delivered anything, except a few hundred BBJet units.
The "no matter what you do" part is funny, as you are not doing anything. You are not shipping. You are not delivering. You are not responding to support email requests. You are not responding to support phone calls. You are not responding to refund requests.
So yes, please enlighten us, other than posting about new vapourware products you are trying to pre-sell, what are you doing?
I will tell you why HF isn't shipping anything and i expect a beer tip at the end
HF isn't shipping anything because after adopting the BFL style of doing business now they adopted Avalon's style of doing business and they are selling customer's chip to third party hardware manufacturers. (example1: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/black-miner-asic-bitcoin-mining-hardware-488646 and example2: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-habanero-650ghs-oos-519943) They get twice the money for the same chips and what's funny is that instead of just delivering stuff to their customers they choose to just screw them more. With the money from the customers they produced chips which they seem to sell first to other vendors and with the money from the vendors they will fund their lawyers to protect them from their customers. So it seems that HF is learning very fast from past bitcoin mining businesses, but only the bad part.
I wonder if after they finish with Avalon and BFL they will go Bitfury and KnC style of making a big ass datacenter only for them.
So when are you guys turning your phone back on?
I heard the new phone is already on pre-order so soon(tm).
Also, if they are unable to take your call call they will give you up to 4 calls back. Guaranteed.
So when are you guys turning your phone back on?
Now he's just a paid shill. I wonder how those guys at Crashfast pay him - BTC, chips, or "freebies"?
Most likely with false promises.The only company in the world selling mining equipment that really hashes at 2TH/s is HashFast (hence our name).
This may be true, selling, but what about delivering? Anything? My Cointerra order, paid in November, arrived last week and hashes away happily since then. I still wait for HashLast products (hence the name).You sound different since you're back. Are you IceDrill? Did they offer you faster delivery for some propaganda? Don't trust them, they tricked you before.
Cross posting from the official CrashFast 800G thread to hedge against deletion:
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If I had any BTC, I would bet Hashfast-CL is Icebreaker, but I'd want 2:1 odds.
Good thing I hedged - my original post about Icebreaker was deleted from the "official" Crashfast-800 thread yesterday.
Circumstantial evidence?
It's kind of sad if true. Icebreaker used to be a Top Ten master-troll before he got strung out on Crashfast - effective and entertaining. Now he's just a paid shill. I wonder how those guys at Crashfast pay him - BTC, chips, or "freebies"? (And I don't mean free mining rigs)
Screwing them legally is always better than being screwed by their actions.
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The "no matter what you do" part is funny, as you are not doing anything. You are not shipping. You are not delivering. You are not responding to support email requests. You are not responding to support phone calls. You are not responding to refund requests.
Their lawyers are taking time.This is what they are doing.
It looks like that two weeks to order a list of 6 arbitrators in order of preference is not enough for them. They need more (and something tells me that it's just the beginning).
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I did not ask for lawyers. I only ask to get my orders delivered
They can't even get this simplest of things done right.
Imagine if you bring in the lawyers... how long is that going to take?
Sure, he is holding several petahashes in his hand.
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