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Quote from: deskless on May 28, 2019, 09:17:31 AM

My current rigs are all using wired connection through wifi adapter. I am planning to move to use usb wifi adapter. The reason is to make rig more compact. Any suggestions from the community. My worry is that wifi connection may not be good due to proximity of GPUs. Any recommendation for the USB wifi adapter would be appreciated. Thank you.

Wifi is a no go area for me, I don't really know why it has never favoured me and always disappoint when I need it the most. Please go for Wired

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i dont recommend wifi as your connection to your rig, i will not take my risk since there are many connection problem using wifi in your mining equipment, do play safe with wired internet. but if i find reliable wifi connectiom i will try it too, its seems very awesome, anyway i do really avoid chinese product on my mining equipment, i know its cheaper but it will only last for a couple month.

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Quote from: Beyerd17 on June 05, 2019, 05:37:21 PM

I have also tested this many times and I hardly see much of a difference. 10% sounds like a lot. What is the quality of your router and wifi, is it some cheap chinese junk? From what I can see there is less than 1% difference between wired and wifi.

MikroTik RB2011. I dont think that it looks like "cheap chinese junk". I was not looking where is problem. I had seen the difference and solved this problem with wired connection.

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Wired is the only reliable solution. Not all Wireless packets make it to the destination.

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Quote from: bitkanu on June 06, 2019, 01:12:04 AM

Quote from: mak013 on June 04, 2019, 03:50:19 AM

Quote from: Beyerd17 on June 04, 2019, 03:11:37 AM

It all depends on the quality of your router, the quality of your wifi adapter in your computer, how far the distance from your router to your wifi adapter, how many other wifi networks around in your area.

If all those factors are good, there is hardly any difference between wifi and wired.

Wifi is always worse then wired connection. It`s unstable even if the distance between router and computer is 2 meters. For gaming, internet - this is ok, but in mining this is losses. I calculated difference - it have been about 10%. Router was about 4 meters from rig

Definitely, 5Ghz wifi is OK, it's fast and things but sometimes it lost its connection not to mention that the wired connection is definintely A LOT stable because it is wired. Even for gaming wifi sometimes sucks because there's lost packet and stuff and that's kinda not worth it for business and it's for mining which requires more intensive work, also wired is cheaper, I can't see why people prefer to buy expensive wifi than ultra cheap cat6 LAN cable

Yes, wired is cheaper and possibly slightly better, but who wants those long nasty cables running through your whole house/apartment. Wifi is so much cleaner looking and don't mess your floor up.

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Quote from: mak013 on June 04, 2019, 03:50:19 AM

Quote from: Beyerd17 on June 04, 2019, 03:11:37 AM

It all depends on the quality of your router, the quality of your wifi adapter in your computer, how far the distance from your router to your wifi adapter, how many other wifi networks around in your area.

If all those factors are good, there is hardly any difference between wifi and wired.

Wifi is always worse then wired connection. It`s unstable even if the distance between router and computer is 2 meters. For gaming, internet - this is ok, but in mining this is losses. I calculated difference - it have been about 10%. Router was about 4 meters from rig

Definitely, 5Ghz wifi is OK, it's fast and things but sometimes it lost its connection not to mention that the wired connection is definintely A LOT stable because it is wired. Even for gaming wifi sometimes sucks because there's lost packet and stuff and that's kinda not worth it for business and it's for mining which requires more intensive work, also wired is cheaper, I can't see why people prefer to buy expensive wifi than ultra cheap cat6 LAN cable

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Quote from: mak013 on June 04, 2019, 03:50:19 AM

Quote from: Beyerd17 on June 04, 2019, 03:11:37 AM

It all depends on the quality of your router, the quality of your wifi adapter in your computer, how far the distance from your router to your wifi adapter, how many other wifi networks around in your area.

If all those factors are good, there is hardly any difference between wifi and wired.

Wifi is always worse then wired connection. It`s unstable even if the distance between router and computer is 2 meters. For gaming, internet - this is ok, but in mining this is losses. I calculated difference - it have been about 10%. Router was about 4 meters from rig

I have also tested this many times and I hardly see much of a difference. 10% sounds like a lot. What is the quality of your router and wifi, is it some cheap chinese junk? From what I can see there is less than 1% difference between wired and wifi.

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Quote from: libert19 on May 28, 2019, 11:09:43 PM

If you are going to use WiFi in a mining farm then you are surely gonna have connection problems as all load is on single router.

So if your rigs are hardwired, your rigs is not connected to a single router, and not all load is on a single router ? ?

how many routers are you planning to use for a few rigs whats are located in a different area of a apartment ?

Quote from: deskless on May 28, 2019, 04:47:24 PM

My rigs are in different parts of apartment and therefore using Wired is not possible. I had to use wifi extender and connect rig to that extender using wired connection. It works usually but still wanted to find out option of removing the extender.
Thanks everyone for help.

Wired connection is always better, i would say the best. Its really doesnt matter you are using Wifi, Wired or PNA , if its set up right, you sould be good to go without any issues.

You have a few option other than wired connection, but not not much

Im posting links for you , so you can read and understand better what im saying )

-Wifi - if you set up right , you cant have any issues ... get a access point with beam forming and MIMO function.
Example enGenius EAP 1250

If you dont want to wire anything, not even the access points, you have a option to build a whole home mesh wifi system, using the EAP 1250 what i linked earlier .

-Powerline Network Adapter, need some kind of short wiring, but you can use everywhere in your apartment.

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Quote from: adaseb on May 29, 2019, 03:06:30 AM

Like some of the replies in this thread, I've had issues with using wifi with mining rigs. I think if you have 1 or 2 rigs or if the rigs are more spaced apart it won't be an issue but if you got like 10 rigs, each very close to one another then you will get interference and signal drops.

The dead wifi connections were an issue because with the Claymore software, a no internet for a brief period caused the system to hang for some reason.

So I saved myself the headache and just wired up all the rigs and all the issues went away. You can just get a bunch of old router and plug one into the other if you need more ports. Each router can power up to 4 other network connections.

This is what im trying to avoid thats why on my first mining operation i didnt tend to consider on using up Wifi but rather choosing up cable instead.
I know the reliability when it comes to connection,it might fail but not as severe with possible Wifi interference.

Quote from: naska21 on May 29, 2019, 02:27:55 AM

There is one more option, my rig is out of range of router's WiFi as it is located outside and electromagnetic waves are isolated, so I have to use powerline Ethernet adapters, so far, no problems with such arrangement.

This is one of the advantage on having a cable yet you can utilize or solve out some sort of things when your rig cant able to receive wifi signal due to some circumstances.

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Quote from: adaseb on June 04, 2019, 01:33:27 AM

Quote from: deskless on May 30, 2019, 07:02:57 AM

Quote from: adaseb on May 30, 2019, 03:13:02 AM

I haven't tried this but maybe if you are getting interference issues then try the following.

If you got say 10 rigs, all close together and you got instability and dropped connections. Buy about 3-4 wifi routers, doesn't need to be dual-band the cheap $35 will work.

For each router set a different channel and alternate the rigs between the channels, and maybe this way you won't et the interference.

My situation is different. I have rigs at different parts of apartment. So currently I use the cheap $35 dollar router and that works well. However the router needs to be plugged on and there is a wired connection from the router (wifi extender) to the rig. I am planning to make rigs compact and thought of replacing the wifi extender with the USB based wifi adapter so that there is one less component. This is the reason why I was looking for option for USB based wifi extender. It is possible that USB based will not work because of interference with the Graphics card.
Thanks for your message.

It might work but you might get issues like I did and most of the other posters in this thread.

Wifi when its in close proximity to other devices has issues by itself. If you go to a Starbucks and there are 100 people trying to use the wifi, there will be issues.

Combined with the fact that you got some open air GPUs and lots of them, it will make the situation even worse.

Also the fact that you live in an apartment, means that your neighbours also have wifi routers which will add to the interference.

So you really should just get a network switch and just use CAT5 for all your rigs. The headache won't be worth it.

MY rigs are all in different parts of an apartment. If I need to provide wired network , I would need to manually run wires to the rigs from router.

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This is an interesting topic. I mine out of my garage and once I get enough rigs going the garage door opener remotes lose range.

Go with hard wires and be happy you wont have to worry about it.

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Quote from: Beyerd17 on June 04, 2019, 03:11:37 AM

It all depends on the quality of your router, the quality of your wifi adapter in your computer, how far the distance from your router to your wifi adapter, how many other wifi networks around in your area.

If all those factors are good, there is hardly any difference between wifi and wired.

Wifi is always worse then wired connection. It`s unstable even if the distance between router and computer is 2 meters. For gaming, internet - this is ok, but in mining this is losses. I calculated difference - it have been about 10%. Router was about 4 meters from rig

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Quote from: bitkanu on June 03, 2019, 05:22:21 AM

Quote from: Beyerd17 on June 02, 2019, 03:28:26 PM

Wifi is good enough for most mining operations. I have used both wifi and ethernet cabled connection for mining and I hardly notice any difference at all. You can perfectly safe go with wifi for your mining rig.

It is always better to choose wired, wired is definintely more reliable than wireless, with wireless sometimes the connection lost and by that you may missed the chance of mining or wasting your time while you are away and cant monitor your rig.
Also wired connection tend to be faster than the wireless ones so the choice obviously wired ones just for more reliability.

It all depends on the quality of your router, the quality of your wifi adapter in your computer, how far the distance from your router to your wifi adapter, how many other wifi networks around in your area.

If all those factors are good, there is hardly any difference between wifi and wired.

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Quote from: deskless on May 30, 2019, 07:02:57 AM

Quote from: adaseb on May 30, 2019, 03:13:02 AM

I haven't tried this but maybe if you are getting interference issues then try the following.

If you got say 10 rigs, all close together and you got instability and dropped connections. Buy about 3-4 wifi routers, doesn't need to be dual-band the cheap $35 will work.

For each router set a different channel and alternate the rigs between the channels, and maybe this way you won't et the interference.

My situation is different. I have rigs at different parts of apartment. So currently I use the cheap $35 dollar router and that works well. However the router needs to be plugged on and there is a wired connection from the router (wifi extender) to the rig. I am planning to make rigs compact and thought of replacing the wifi extender with the USB based wifi adapter so that there is one less component. This is the reason why I was looking for option for USB based wifi extender. It is possible that USB based will not work because of interference with the Graphics card.
Thanks for your message.

It might work but you might get issues like I did and most of the other posters in this thread.

Wifi when its in close proximity to other devices has issues by itself. If you go to a Starbucks and there are 100 people trying to use the wifi, there will be issues.

Combined with the fact that you got some open air GPUs and lots of them, it will make the situation even worse.

Also the fact that you live in an apartment, means that your neighbours also have wifi routers which will add to the interference.

So you really should just get a network switch and just use CAT5 for all your rigs. The headache won't be worth it.

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Use ethernet. Latency can cause stale shares

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We have used wifi when no other option was available, heck we even ran over a dozen rigs on using a cell phone hotspot for most of a week once.:p

Wired is definitely the best option though, pretty much set and forget that way.

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Well, the best thing to do now is to compare the functioning of those two and then settle on one. Personally, i don't trust wifi connections- it's either cable connection or my private data network. Wifis can disappoint many times.

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Quote from: Beyerd17 on June 02, 2019, 03:28:26 PM

Wifi is good enough for most mining operations. I have used both wifi and ethernet cabled connection for mining and I hardly notice any difference at all. You can perfectly safe go with wifi for your mining rig.

It is always better to choose wired, wired is definintely more reliable than wireless, with wireless sometimes the connection lost and by that you may missed the chance of mining or wasting your time while you are away and cant monitor your rig.
Also wired connection tend to be faster than the wireless ones so the choice obviously wired ones just for more reliability.

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Wifi is good enough for most mining operations. I have used both wifi and ethernet cabled connection for mining and I hardly notice any difference at all. You can perfectly safe go with wifi for your mining rig.

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wired connection is more stable, regardless of the size of the room and premises its better to use it to connect mining rigs

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